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Aylee -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:07:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Not a bad idea, actually, is it?


Other than the fact that it's completely unconstitutional and discriminatory....sure...


Interesting, I do not recall "weight" anywhere in the constitution.




Aylee -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:09:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I agree that obesity is the biggest hate thing goin on right now and its only gona get worse, blah blah blah.
bloody idiot politicians
Lucy


Lucy, I would say that in the US, the biggest "hate thing" going on is about smoking and smokers. 




Lucylastic -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:14:19 PM)

Aiiiiiiiiiiii
Aylee, yep, you could be right
but you are really buggered if you are a fat smoker *yes I am both*
Its much the same in Canada and the UK  regarding same
I just wish they were more intent on solving more important issues than taking away freedoms
Lucy




Aubre -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:16:25 PM)

I wonder if this law would prohibit school cafeterias from feeding obese children.




LaTigresse -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:19:48 PM)

Just fat children that smoke.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:20:39 PM)

I dunno... depends on if you are a smoker or fat as to who you think gets the most flack...

my big ass isnt going to second hand effect any one.. so *smiles* I tend to think the "War On Obese People" as it is now turning out *smirks* is a bit much.

If people want to kill themselves with ciggies, fine, let them.. just not around me where they can kill me too. But damn it they should be allowed to. *Go Dennis Leary!*

If I dont want to see Jabba's long lost twin shoveling food as fast as they can at Stacey's Buffet ( have you been there? It's fabulous! all you can eat steak and ribs.. OMG!) I simply will turn my head the other way. They have every right to eat.

and if people don't like to see my big ass, they can bloody well look the other way. LOL

Gwyn




womyn -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:23:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Want to guess how fast this law is going to be struck dead?

Politicians in Mississippi want to ban obese people from eating at restaurants.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0201081fat1.html


Oh come on! Next it'll be women with big breasts, or bald men. What a fucking joke!





Gwynvyd -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:25:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aubre

I wonder if this law would prohibit school cafeterias from feeding obese children.



Holy shit we were just bitching about this yesterday!

They are now cutting back on lunches in our school system and doing more "Portion Control" because they fear helping with childhood obesity.

My son who is a twig eats everything not nailed down well enough. He comes home *starving* every day from school since the change.

What I am wondering is what about the poor kids who's only decent meal might be the free one they get at school?   What the hell where these doinks thinking?

Why not add gym class every day of the week, or healthier meals? Why take food out of thier mouths??? *Literialy!*

Yeah I am pissed off... ( thanks for reminding me)

Gwyn




womyn -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:27:38 PM)

Gee...how about using all of our energy and resources to get our poor boys back home from the war....oh how selfish of me! Let's make up some fucking lame ass laws and waste the taxpayer's dollars to police it because some of us here in the Federal govern't are just plain stupid!




DomKen -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:27:42 PM)

Anybody ever been to the MS casinos down on the Gulf? Ban overweight people from the restaurants down there and you might as well board up the casinos. Stupid legislators, stupid law. Anything this clearlyin violation of equal protection should get elected officials responsible for introducing it bounced from office.




Aubre -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:29:51 PM)

Well there is serious discussion about preventing obese people from getting fertility treatments (to prevent them from passing their fat genes on to children), subjecting the obese to higher prices for airfare, denying the obese medical care until they lower their BMI. Who knows, perhaps the obese and those that love them will be required to move into ghettos so that the people who don't like to look at them won't have to do so. They'll be banned from theaters, sporting events, public office, education. Where does it stop? If you are one of those people who doesn't consider the obese to be humans you could make this leap very easily.





LaTigresse -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:30:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Anybody ever been to the MS casinos down on the Gulf? Ban overweight people from the restaurants down there and you might as well board up the casinos. Stupid legislators, stupid law. Anything this clearlyin violation of equal protection should get elected officials responsible for introducing it bounced from office.


Just think how much higher they would have to build the gang planks!




CrimsonMoan -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:30:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: womyn

Oh come on! Next it'll be women with big breasts, or bald men. What a fucking joke!



yeah because we all know big breasts are so hard to ignore. Would it only be those naturally gifted or just those implant queens??




cyberdude611 -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:41:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Not a bad idea, actually, is it?


Other than the fact that it's completely unconstitutional and discriminatory....sure...


Interesting, I do not recall "weight" anywhere in the constitution.


14th amendment states that all laws must apply to all equally. You cant single out a certain group of people.




womyn -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:44:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

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ORIGINAL: womyn

Oh come on! Next it'll be women with big breasts, or bald men. What a fucking joke!



yeah because we all know big breasts are so hard to ignore. Would it only be those naturally gifted or just those implant queens??



LOL....Naughty, Naughty! Don't give the legislatures anymore ammo to play with!




DomKen -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:44:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aubre

Well there is serious discussion about preventing obese people from getting fertility treatments (to prevent them from passing their fat genes on to children), subjecting the obese to higher prices for airfare, denying the obese medical care until they lower their BMI. Who knows, perhaps the obese and those that love them will be required to move into ghettos so that the people who don't like to look at them won't have to do so. They'll be banned from theaters, sporting events, public office, education. Where does it stop? If you are one of those people who doesn't consider the obese to be humans you could make this leap very easily.

I'm not skinny, 6' tall, 280lbs, waist 44", but I do not view it as discrimination if an airline or theater says "you don't fit in one seat, you've got to pay for the extra seat." These are businesses that make money based on filling seats. To let someone pay for one seat but occupy two isn't good business. Yes, I understand this is a hardship for the very overweight but the other way around is a hardship on the business not to mention the hassles that occur when a very obese person shows up with a coach ticket for a fully booked flight, which happened more than a few times back in my traveling for business days. Arguments always ensued and that almost always delayed takeoff. It was more than a tad aggravating.




Aylee -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:50:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Not a bad idea, actually, is it?


Other than the fact that it's completely unconstitutional and discriminatory....sure...


Interesting, I do not recall "weight" anywhere in the constitution.


14th amendment states that all laws must apply to all equally. You cant single out a certain group of people.


Well, no.  What it says is that no state can make a law that abridges the rights and immunities of citizenship.  Among other things (it has 4 sections). 

Being banned from a restaurant does not take away your rights as a citizen.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 




cyberdude611 -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:54:22 PM)

Right...look up what "equal protection" means. The Supreme Court has interpreted it as meaning that all laws must apply to all equally.

In other words you cant refuse to serve someone just because they are a muslim or black or hispanic.

We went through this stuff back in the 60s and the courts have ruled it unconstitutional.




CrimsonMoan -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:56:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: womyn

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

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ORIGINAL: womyn

Oh come on! Next it'll be women with big breasts, or bald men. What a fucking joke!



yeah because we all know big breasts are so hard to ignore. Would it only be those naturally gifted or just those implant queens??




LOL....Naughty, Naughty! Don't give the legislatures anymore ammo to play with!


I'm not too worried about that one for the simple fact that like the fat ban they would be only shooting themselves in the foot. All those gifted interens, assitants, office aides etc would be going bye bye.

Seriously though this has to be one of the stupidest things a legislature has come up with and the year is still fresh. Its only downhill from here.




Aylee -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 1:57:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Right...look up what "equal protection" means. The Supreme Court has interpreted it as meaning that all laws must apply to all equally.

In other words you cant refuse to serve someone just because they are a muslim or black or hispanic.

We went through this stuff back in the 60s and the courts have ruled it unconstitutional.


You are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  NOT the constitution. 




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