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DomKen -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:03:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 Right...look up what "equal protection" means. The Supreme Court has interpreted it as meaning that all laws must apply to all equally. In other words you cant refuse to serve someone just because they are a muslim or black or hispanic. We went through this stuff back in the 60s and the courts have ruled it unconstitutional. You are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964. NOT the constitution. No,he means the 14th ammendment. Specifically how the SCOTUS interpreted the ammendment in Brown V Topeka and subsequent rulings. The 14th requires equal protection under the law and that means laws cannot exclude certain classes of people from public accomodations definitely including restaurants. Scotus rulings: http://supreme.justia.com/us/378/153/case.html http://supreme.justia.com/us/373/244/case.html

Gwynvyd -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:12:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Not a bad idea, actually, is it? Other than the fact that it's completely unconstitutional and discriminatory....sure... Interesting, I do not recall "weight" anywhere in the constitution. 14th amendment states that all laws must apply to all equally. You cant single out a certain group of people. cokes on her egg roll and points to the Marriage amendments banning gay marriage yeah like that never stopped them! goes back to shoveling food in her pie hole Gwyn

popeye1250 -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:16:05 PM)
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." "No shirt, no shoes, no service." Say if oh,...I dunno,...Ted Kennedy was in a bar and had his usual 30 drinks and the barman "turned him off" that wouldn't be "discrimination would it?

Owner59 -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:33:02 PM)
Miss.State Department of Health criteria for obese persons: 1. If you look down and can`t see your feet,no service. 2. If your belly touches the counter,no service. 3. If you can`t get chicks,no service. 4. If there are parts of your body that you can`t reach or wash,no service. 5.If you shop the "Big and Tall" dept,and aren`t tall,no service. 6.If " super-size" is your nic,no service. Of course there`ll be a government training course to identify the obese,which will be required before receiving a state license. I think this will go the way of DLs for illegals.

Alumbrado -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:40:47 PM)
quote: Being banned from a restaurant does not take away your rights as a citizen. What is often missed in attempts to treat the Constitution as Scripture, is that buzzwords are only relevant in the context of 'reasonableness'. 'Reasonable' as in a person who is trained to apply the rules of logic and arrives at a reasoned conclusion, not 'reasonable' in the current sense of 'close enough'. There are reasonable grounds for keeping a person out of one's restaurant, and there are cases where such a ban would be patently unreasonable, and would therefor violate the Constitution as it is applied in real life.

CuriousLord -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:41:54 PM)
This has to be the stupidest law I've ever heard of actually being proposed. I mean, seriously, what's even the point of it? To help heavy people lose weight by forcing them to cook their own foods? To force fat people to have someone else pick up MccyD's for them? To piss off the heavy people who they're proposing the law to as some sort of passive aggressive stab? If it's not just some stupid stab at a fat person in their legislator or just a way to get attention, how did they even expect it to be enforced? Were people to stand on scales, or were they to be judged by the eyeball? Or.. Gah. If only there were a law against proposing really stupid laws.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:43:36 PM)
mississipi BURNING fat people??? geez....what is the world coming to...i mean they would lose atleast 70% of customers. remember 70% is obese....according to supersize me.

DomKen -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 2:51:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." "No shirt, no shoes, no service." Say if oh,...I dunno,...Ted Kennedy was in a bar and had his usual 30 drinks and the barman "turned him off" that wouldn't be "discrimination would it? You can throw anyboy out or even refuse service to anybody as long as you do it for reasons specific to that individual. Once you're refusing to serve any Irish or any fat people you've violated one of the Civil Rights acts. If a state or local government passes a law that is equivalent to banning some identifiable class from some sort of public accomodation that's a violation of the 14th ammendment. To Gwynvyd, the far right knows the various and sundry state and federal laws banning gay marriage are violations of equal protection and eventually someone is going to get a good legally sound challenge to one up to the SCOTUS and that would be the end of that even with the present make up of the court. However a constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage would trump equal protection which is why the want the ammendment so bad.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:20:33 PM)
Yup.First the "war" was on smoking now the "war" is on fat people and pushing healthy eating and lifestyle,. It'll never end once you wipe out smoking in public and in your own home and cars and in general and once you make all these rules against fat people and get that acomplished, they'll look around and say what can we target next? quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I agree that obesity is the biggest hate thing goin on right now and its only gona get worse, blah blah blah. bloody idiot politicians Lucy

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:22:17 PM)
bald people [:D]

womyn -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:24:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl bald people [:D] I think I already said that. LOL....and oh I also mentioned big-breasted women! [:D]

womyn -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:25:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord This has to be the stupidest law I've ever heard of actually being proposed. I mean, seriously, what's even the point of it? To help heavy people lose weight by forcing them to cook their own foods? To force fat people to have someone else pick up MccyD's for them? To piss off the heavy people who they're proposing the law to as some sort of passive aggressive stab? If it's not just some stupid stab at a fat person in their legislator or just a way to get attention, how did they even expect it to be enforced? Were people to stand on scales, or were they to be judged by the eyeball? Or.. Gah. If only there were a law against proposing really stupid laws. Oooh...then we'd have to build up the House, Senate, and the White House from scratch....lol[:D]

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:27:12 PM)
I feel if you're so large you take up two seats you should have to pay for two seats. Weather it's on an airline or a bus or a train. quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre , subjecting the obese to higher prices for airfare,

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:27:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: womyn quote: ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl bald people [:D] I think I already said that. LOL....and oh I also mentioned big-breasted women! [:D] ohhh thank god..im safe... cept...if i get implants...which im actually looking into...then...i might get scared.....

Lashra -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:28:10 PM)
Are they going to ban stupidity anytime soon? Because if they do there won't be many of our law makers walking around free anymore. And how will they determine who is "fat" and who is just a little chubby? when do they start building special "camps" for fat people, gays/lesbians, sexual deviants and anyone who doesn't fit into their "norm". There is a country in Europe called Germany who in their past passed laws kind of like this one only the people targeted were called "Juden". Learn from the past or you are bound to repeat it. ~Lashra

Alumbrado -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:29:49 PM)
I doubt if we can support the notion that overweight people are in the minority...[:D]

Estring -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:30:05 PM)
Wouldn't you want more fat people eating at restaurants? It is better for business.

SimplySubmissive -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:44:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre I wonder if this law would prohibit school cafeterias from feeding obese children. Holy shit we were just bitching about this yesterday! They are now cutting back on lunches in our school system and doing more "Portion Control" because they fear helping with childhood obesity. My son who is a twig eats everything not nailed down well enough. He comes home starving every day from school since the change. What I am wondering is what about the poor kids who's only decent meal might be the free one they get at school? What the hell where these doinks thinking? Why not add gym class every day of the week, or healthier meals? Why take food out of thier mouths??? Literialy! Yeah I am pissed off... ( thanks for reminding me) Gwyn That new rule is being considered in my school district, but the reason behind the obesity excuse is waste/cost. School lunches are more expensive to prepare now that they have to offer more fresh fruits and vegetables, and healthier choices in general. It is a fact that a large percentage of the food prepared and served ends up in the trash. Kids eat what they want, toss the rest. Some children do eat everything. Most do not. It is easy to spot the children who aren't being fed well at home because they eay everything every day.. quickly.

kinkbound -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:49:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Estring Wouldn't you want more fat people eating at restaurants? It is better for business. Provided you don't own an all-you-can-eat buffet.

kittinSol -> RE: Mississippi wants to ban fat people (2/1/2008 3:53:04 PM)
You're right to mention school lunches: what shocks me is how quickly the children are expected to eat (my son has a 1/2 hour lunch break). If longer lunch breaks were promoted, children would be encouraged to take their time while eating, instead of being effectively forced to wolf their food down. Also, I don't understand why schools provide children with a choice of lunches. Aside from particular dietary requirements (if a child has diabetes, or what have you), why aren't young children given one nutrionally sound lunch (same for all)? Frankly, having to choose between pizza of chicken nuggets is a joke. It should be part of their education that they learn how to sit down at a table and eat civilised food in a civilised way - though the responsibility for this resides mostly at home. And don't get me started on the children who are given a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for their packed lunch: what's up with that?!!! There's a lot to do to fight obesity today, and it starts with giving children no choice but to eat healthy food.

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