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RE: Subspace..... - 3/10/2008 4:09:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: imber

i have often heard of this mentioned, but since i am still really brand new to this, i would like to know what  subspace is, and can it last for more than 3-4 days???


i was going to start off with a "for many people"....but i won't...read the past posts on subspace and pay particular attention to the posts with endorphins in it...or endogenous morphine (which is what endorphins is short for and people who have done a bit more research will throw that in)...and that will give you a "for many people"....

from another post i made...probably in that list of links, i don't know....

for me, subspace is a form of dissociation...and without getting too deep into psychology...imagine the brain having layers...one section of layers being the "human"  or "evolved" brain and another section of layers being the "animal" or "primative" brain...i consider disassociation, to be the process of peeling back those layers...i am not there, but part of me is...i have never been in a scene where all the layers of the first section have been peeled away...therefore i have never been completely without some element of the "human brain"...it may may take me a little more time to access verbal skills...but they are still there...

now the fun part...to get to subspace the "easiest" way to access it is thru pain or any other intense or prolonged sensation that causes endorphin release (orgasm, laughing, etc)...for the sake of brevity, we will just say pain for the rest of this post...however...i have found that thru training the brain and i would guess (and thats a fairly educated guess) elements of hypnosis you can reduce the amount of pain  - whether that be time or intensity - to induce subspace quicker, down to nothing more than a trigger that when, installed properly, pushed by the right person puts me in subspace with a word or touch or even a look...(much harder than an orgasm on comand...) and in turn...that same technique can be used to keep me out of subspace if the the person on the Top side feels its not safe for me to be there....usually due to the enviorment and the people in it...
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and all that being said...if, for you, subspace is a dissociative state, being someone with DID that also dissociates because of traumatic things (i do not relate the two at all, one is a controlled decent, going down in an elevator if you will - subspace, the other is being thrown off a cliff - traumatic dissociation)...yes, i am sure it could last 3 to 4 days...i personally, would not want that...i don't function to well without higher thinking and i like functioning....the walking around and into walls and looking like an goofy [happy] idiot with glassy eyes is only attractive for so long, in my opinion anyway....

chelle


Good post, thanks. I especially liked your reference to laughter and orgasm having some...similarities, psychologically, or whatever..
And your references to "different" layers of the brain, or "mind". Let's not forget, or dismiss the old , but significant, lizard part.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/10/2008 7:13:25 PM   
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Dear colouredin. Perhaps when you reach my age you may get to start thinking a little different to what you do now. Feelings such as "subspace" and being spaced out in general are hormonal led feelings. Safe feelings can only come from our brains, and when we are not under influence. Ok, i admit we need the feeling to be led and send into space, whatever space. The warning is that our concious should be always alert to accompany us in those trips for safe landing purposes....


Dear pete, perhaps when you get to my age you may start thinking differently than you do now. The mind is not something separate from the body. Any altered state of consciousness is brought about by chemicals including hormones. This includes meditative states, the ability to do firewalking, lie on a bed of nails, subspace, runner's high, etc. None of which are dangerous altered states of consciousness.

It is true that there are some bad altered states, but none of these are sought deliberately. I refer of course to flashbacks, fugue or dissociative states, and such.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/12/2008 4:53:13 PM   
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for me subspace is very real and is in me at least based on the levels of seritonin i have floating around. i have ADHD so when I'm not on my meds it is very intense even going into deep subspace and lasts for a long while, and when I'm on my meds its not as intense but i remember it afterwords. each person i have spoken with has had a different description so take it for what its worth.
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RE: Subspace..... - 3/12/2008 6:41:06 PM   
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I just posted about subspace in my blog the other day.  Here's what I wrote:

There is a magic door inside my brain, to which Sir holds the only key. Day in, and day out, this door is sealed tightly, locked against the ebb and flow of my thoughts. This tiny, fantastic door doesn't budge an inch. Until....in the space of an instant, the key is turned, the door flung wide, and....the light. Dear God, the LIGHT. It swirls out and washes over me, a writhing, tactile thing that intoxicates the senses more than any drug. It grows and swells and flows over me inside and out, and I feel myself at once plummeting and soaring, shrinking smaller than a single atom and growing larger than the bounds of the universe, at once perfectly still and simply thrumming with the music of my soul. I am living and dying and being reborn simultaneously; my senses are heightened. In that moment, I am truly beautiful. I am free, and Sir is my Master. Sparks and flashes of light dance in front of my eyes, colors whose names have never been known to mortal men. I am the air, the sea, the dark nymph of forgotten treasures. Then, ever so slowly, my senses return to their subdued state. I drift and float and rejoin myself, and as my eyes regain their focus I see Him, my beautiful beloved Sir, smiling down at me. He holds me close and soothes me as the heavy door swings closed to guard its secret once more. This is who I am, who WE are, and it is truly a wonderful being.

For the record, pain has never been a factor in my achieving this state.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 1:22:22 AM   
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Well guys, i don't know what meds you guys are on but let me tell you that i also don't believe in meds.. my own body has the ability to cure stupid doctors diagnoses due to inability of our own.. How easy it is for us to resort to easy medicine prescriptions given by our doctors in order for them to get more benefits from our addictions...

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 4:24:01 AM   
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petpete:  “i also don't believe in meds.. my own body has the ability to cure”
 
I’ve held this belief for years….works for me. 

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 4:54:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: petpete

Well guys, i don't know what meds you guys are on but let me tell you that i also don't believe in meds.. my own body has the ability to cure stupid doctors diagnoses due to inability of our own.. How easy it is for us to resort to easy medicine prescriptions given by our doctors in order for them to get more benefits from our addictions...


Pete,

You da man!  As a product of the 70's.  The sex drugs and rock and roll generation.  I took advantage of it.  That is the only time in my life where I've truely seen ppl "spaced out" great smoke will do that to you.  DAMN I miss those days.  For everyone that thinks they know about sub dom or any other kind of space.  Fire up the bong and then come talk to me about "space"

BadOne

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 5:18:46 AM   
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I so agree w/KatsClaws....its very def on what sends me there and i was told they knew when it happened from looking at my eyes. Thats why its always good to have a partner that knows you, not a series of them that have no clue for your safety.

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ORIGINAL: KatsClaws12

I mostly go to subspace through pain....which is really mostly pleasure that i durive from it all. I have known other subs who have gotten to subspace just from being in bondage. I think it might be different for everyone.
As far as lasting for days i would have to say that it is like what LA said that it is more of a natural high that you can ride on for awhile....its so wonderful.



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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 5:42:10 AM   
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Pete,  here's an adage that may serve .......
The older I get the more I recall......................

                                      ..................how little I knew when I knew it all.


So,  when you get to my age...........!

From personal experience I can tell you that spacing does exist.  As others have explained it may not happen for everyone or even for those that do go there, it may not happen every time.  That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  In exactly the same way as not everyone experineces orgasm,  orgasms do not occur every time.  But they certainly do exist.

I've known a large number of subs who experience sub space,  some only via pain others via other sensations.  It's certainly one of those things that you cannot force to happen.  It either will or it won't.   To the OP,  I'd advise you be aware of it and read about it if you so wish,  but don't worry about it.  If you can experience it,  it'll happen sometime.  The more you chase it,  the further away it'll be
Just enjoy waht you do and if that takes you to your version of subspace, it's a bonus.

Just for the record,  my version of dom space is a very nice place to be.  It doesn't hamper my ability to play safely either!

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:18:42 AM   
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I go to sub space the second my gspot is hit three or four times in a row, a haze goes over me my eyes get glassy my cheeks get flushed, its very wonderful to see ^_^ and feel ^_^

So It can be gained in many ways, Ive never gotten it through pain, only through pleasure... So far that is.



NewFlash  G spot = no such thing.  Ask any doctor.  All those romanace novelist make zillions off that word that has no basis in reality LOL.

BadOne 



News flash you dont have a vagina...dont make broad statements. I happen to have a vagina...and I happen to know that the G spot does exist...

-pets your head a lil-

Dont be sad because you cant take the time to find it....Its hard to find when youre on a time limit.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:20:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imber

i have often heard of this mentioned, but since i am still really brand new to this, i would like to know what  subspace is, and can it last for more than 3-4 days???



It is not unheard of for sub space to last for a longer period of time depending on what activities take place....tho....I...and mind you this is just Me...I have never heard of it lasting THAT long....not to say that it hasnt for some.

Ignore the ignorance of some people....they want to bash what you feel because they have to work for it and you dont.

Experience this life in the manner in which you can...what ever that may be.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:22:22 AM   
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NewFlash  G spot = no such thing.  Ask any doctor.  All those romanace novelist make zillions off that word that has no basis in reality LOL.

BadOne 


Web MD does have a differing opinion. Whether or not you consider it a valid source is up to you.

G spot

A personal observation: I've read, at minimum, 300 romance novels in my life and never, once, has a single author used the term g spot. Are you sure you're talking about romance novels and not porn novels?

Celeste




My knowledge is baised on what docs have told me.  They have freely admitted that there is a lot of conjecture on the subject but no evidence.

BadOne




LOL...NEWS Flash....Boys have PENISES.....(hence no g spot)


GIRLS have VAGINAS.....(mysterious cave of wonders....hence G SPOT)

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:23:34 AM   
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SailingBum.. personal experience.. there is a gspot.



Personal experience:  i don't know if it's the g spot as much as it's the o-m-G! spot.



ROFLMAO!!


Even in OMG spot there is a G!


why argue with a penis weilder? They dont take the time to know their own G spot much less a womans....

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:25:00 AM   
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Fuck the doctors' opinions, imho. The ""g-spot" do exist, maybe not for every woman, we are all different, thank goodness. I know, I've been there, got the t-shirt, thanks.

What I do wonder about , though, is "squirting". I know some women say they do, and some men say they have experienced it. Seems like just piss to me. Some men seem to be obsessed about this. I wonder if it is just a male fantasy for some guys, or even a subconsciuos, repressed  gay thing. Not my thing though. Just curious.



Female ejaculation....it does happen...and women can be taught to do it.

Ive read articles on it....it takes time...strong hand/arm muscles, and lots of towels....it can be done.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:26:59 AM   
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i will agree with the BadOne. There is no such bullshit as subspace.. Its all in your head. If someone wants to create a dreamland in there minds and think that they live in it they are free to do so. Its all in your head. Only reality exists. Illusions are for dreamers and wankers



Oh! And Look! Its a medical genius with a degree in pyschology....OMG! DR PHIL!!! Where the hell have you been man?

You know so much about meds, the human mind...AND the body....

I stand in awe of your over powering intellect....

-snickers-


Goober.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:29:04 AM   
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Baby i'm sorry to correct you but that is called "nervous" You where at a stage that was feeling nervous and excited and you got those feelings. They are perfectly normal and can appear in any kind of relationship. Its possible that your partner can experience the same too but due to the nature of his role may not show it. For you its perfectly normal to show that but for the D unfortunetly they need to restraint there emotions sometimes. Others plainly show ignorance to fight back the feeling of having to show there emotions.






Wow....


All I can say is wow...


Im still blinded by the brillance of your logic....


Who the hell do you think you are to say what another person feels?

Your profile...tho...so very very intelligent and articulate....says a great deal of NOTHING....

I think perhaps you need to change from a sub to a Dom since you have SOOOO much self control that from MILLIONs of miles away you can control and explain the thinking of some one you have read a few posts by on a message board.

and again I re-iterate...Goober

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:32:09 AM   
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Hey there captain cjan.. i once met this lovely Lady who i found myself having the need to serve Her. She happened to be much younger then myself and somehow in a very unfortunate time of Her life. Anyway cut the long story short i had to become of some assistance to Her that is purely not in my desire. i let Her know about it that i only complied out of compassion but also because She gave me the opportunity to feel the spirit of the season. i am a single person and for Her to give me the opportunity to feel that i was buying some presents for a child was a real pleasure to me. When W/we contacted each other online after the shopping trip She asked me if i was into "subspace" or not.. It really pissed me off that i did such a act for a sexual release activity and i lost my self control and i really let Her have it.. i regretted that later on due to the fact that i should've forgiven Her cause of Your young of Her age. W/we still are very good friends and since then She does view me in a different angle. She obviously did not know me well, but i am also happy to help Her with anything if She ever needs any of me.



Hey Hoyle...since you make all the rules....

wow....It seems to ME that you got taken advantage of once and you feel the need to piss on other peoples toast because you didnt get what you wanted.

You and about 99.9% of the human race.


I know its easy to blame her what ever on her age...but dont you think...Oh great know all be all of BDSM and all things human psyche ....that it could have been because YOU GOT SUCKERED?!?!

Theres a novel idea.


Goober

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:33:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KinkyDom888

being a Dom i dont know a lot about subspace
but i certainly do know how to get a sub there :-)
but bloody hell - i can definetly assure all on here that Australia exists
because i live there!



I was really beginning to fear for the fate of your country based on good ole Dr Phil up there....



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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:35:09 AM   
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each to their own, but i still say your not experiancing something doesnt mean it doesnt exsist, you are not the be all and end all of emotional knowledge so i am sure people can freely dismiss what you are saying.  Sorry if that sounded rude it wasnt meant to I simply mean that you are poo pooing other peoples emotions and therefore i feel some sense of need to poo poo your opinion




awww coloured....I love you....youre so sweet....if that was poo pooing....then Im in big trouble cos Mod 11 will be stalking Me for shitting all over his opinion.

Small minded people piss Me off.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:36:50 AM   
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Hey there captain cjan.. i once met this lovely Lady who i found myself having the need to serve Her. She happened to be much younger then myself and somehow in a very unfortunate time of Her life. Anyway cut the long story short i had to become of some assistance to Her that is purely not in my desire. i let Her know about it that i only complied out of compassion but also because She gave me the opportunity to feel the spirit of the season. i am a single person and for Her to give me the opportunity to feel that i was buying some presents for a child was a real pleasure to me. When W/we contacted each other online after the shopping trip She asked me if i was into "subspace" or not.. It really pissed me off that i did such a act for a sexual release activity and i lost my self control and i really let Her have it.. i regretted that later on due to the fact that i should've forgiven Her cause of Your young of Her age. W/we still are very good friends and since then She does view me in a different angle. She obviously did not know me well, but i am also happy to help Her with anything if She ever needs any of me.


pete, I read this post twice, and still don't get your point. Prolly,  at least one of us has had too much to drink tonight.
Cheers






I dont think he made a point to be honest....

Have you ever met those people who did a whole lot of talking, but didnt ever really say anything?


-nods over at good ole Dr Pete-

There ya go...

Pass the rum. I definately need a drink after this one.

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