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Would Boycotting Gasoline work?

Yes it would help

25% (11)

No it would not at all

18% (8)

Let's try and see what happens

27% (12)

It won't make a significant difference

16% (7)

This sucks, but I have no choice, can't boycott

11% (5)

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Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:30:24 AM

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I was watching Bill Oreilly (yes I admit it! I know he is a real..., but I couldn't know that if I didn't watch/read him), and he suggested we should all boycott buying gasoline on sundays.
Do you think that would help at all in sending a message to the inhumane corporate piggishness going on with oil companies?
I have chosen to drive much less, taking less random rides (to the mall >15minutes away, lol), but that I don't feel is enough. I really think the royal screwing sans lube we're getting is terrible and wonder if there is anything we can do that would be worthwhile???
Ideas please? M

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:37:12 AM

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Absolutely! If the demand goes down, so does the price. I already use as little as possible. And I am willing cut My consumption even further.
It might not show instant results, but if people would truly get together, (as the major price fixing coprorations do) and refuse to buy, the businesses will take notice. This doesn't mean to rearange the time of the week you buy gas, folks. It means, use less!

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:38:55 AM

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quote:

This doesn't mean to rearange the time of the week you buy gas, folks. It means, use less!

Thanks. That is exactly what I'm going to do, use much less. M

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:39:06 AM

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i think if enough people did the boycott and STUCK with it, then things might change... meaning people being willing to boycott for a week... every day.... (like workers going on strike). But most people wouldn't be willing to sit it out... and for even "one day" i bet not even .1% of Americans would go along with a one day boycott... and it would seem to me that a significant amount of people would have to be willing to go along with the boycott for it to work........

i wish a significant number of people would be willing to go along with it.........
(not that i know anything about that sorta thing.. but.. it just seems to make sense that a large number of people would have to be willing to do this for it to make a difference ~)

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:41:55 AM

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i think if enough people did the boycott and STUCK with it, then things might change... meaning people being willing to boycott for a week... every day.... (like workers going on strike). But most people wouldn't be willing to sit it out... and for even "one day" i bet not even .5% of Americans would go along with a one day boycott... and it would seem to me that a significant amount of people would have to be willing to go along with the boycott for it to work...

Thanks Ragdoll.
You really think americans aren't angry enough to say stop the abuse even for 1 day? Are we really that desperately immature? I know the prices are affecting the majority of people, because I don't make minimum wage, and am affected. M

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 1:45:07 AM

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I dont think it will do much. As it is I only fill up once a week so I cant exactly boycott a day as id run out of petrol...

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 2:15:24 AM

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I dont think it will do much. As it is I only fill up once a week so I cant exactly boycott a day as id run out of petrol...

If you are using only what you need to use in order to drive to work, for instance, then you are already doing all you can do. If you don't plan your errands, and have to run out and use gasoline, instead of being efficient, then that is something everyone really needs to take a look at.
I am sure many people are already getting by on as little as possible, and you may welll be one of those people. But I'm also sure many more don't give a second thought to how easy it is to waste a gallon or two every week, because you forgot the milk, or didn't stop by the pharmacy when you passed it on the way home. Sometimes little things like that can add up to a lot. And if everyone only saved a couple of gallons a week, it can add up pretty fast.
BTW, our oil usage is not limited to gasoline. I use less A/c in My house (not easy in the hot Az desert!), and try to be as fuel efficient as possible in more ways than My gas tank.
We all have a tendency to be laxidazical (I love that word!) and bitch about the bill at the pump, but I'm willing to bet there are a whole lot of people (inlcudng Me) that could figure out a way to save a full tank a month! Or close to it! These days, even in My reasonably efficient Nissan, that adds up to about $40!

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 2:45:27 AM

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If American people would use just as much energy as European do (the ratio is about 3:1), this would decrease the global demand for oil by about 15%, and oil prices certainly wouldn't have reached 40$ yet.

Just dreaming.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:10:40 AM

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i think if enough people did the boycott and STUCK with it, then things might change... meaning people being willing to boycott for a week... every day.... (like workers going on strike). But most people wouldn't be willing to sit it out... and for even "one day" i bet not even .1% of Americans would go along with a one day boycott... and it would seem to me that a significant amount of people would have to be willing to go along with the boycott for it to work........

I listened to a radio show host say the other day, that only serious civil uproar and random acts of civil disobedience could shift the paradigm.

I hate to sound so cynical, but I think the price of gas is gonna have to go much higher before the citizenry gaines the follow-through to dent the petroleum industry.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:19:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

I hate to sound so cynical, but I seriously doubt the citizenry has the wherewithal or follow-through to dent the petroleum industry.

i agree!

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

Thanks Ragdoll.
You really think americans aren't angry enough to say stop the abuse even for 1 day? Are we really that desperately immature? I know the prices are affecting the majority of people, because I don't make minimum wage, and am affected. M

...sadly.. i think that even though most people are annoyed/angry... most people don't actually take "action to change" things even when they are angry.. i don't think most people are motivated... i guess.... to take action like that. .... i think a lot of people sort of complain.. but leave it at that... maybe because they don't believe it's possible to change the situation (so they don't want to bother trying) or maybe because they are too busy with other things and so the gas prices aren't their first crusade..

i dunno................ i'm not really knowledgeable about this kinda stuff! so... i probably shouldn't have even responded to this topic at all.. ~

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:43:06 AM

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The idea of Americans calling anyone, even profiteering corporations, "piggish" is laughably ironic. Boycott gasoline? What next, diet and exercise?

Bob

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:43:37 AM

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quote:

Do you think that would help at all in sending a message to the inhumane corporate piggishness going on with oil companies?

It might be a good short term strategy. However the problem is larger then that.

I posted the following info in the Gas prices thread and it sort of fell on deaf ears (which is fine) so I'll try it again here, and perhaps a little more seriously.

It's about biodiesel as an alternative to mainstream gasoline. I know a few people running such an initiative here in Canada and believe me, it's real. You can read more about it in this article entitled Biodiesel gaining steam as alternative fuel source.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:44:38 AM

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The idea of Americans calling anyone, even profiteering corporations, "piggish" is laughably ironic. Boycott gasoline? What next, diet and exercise?

Bob

A resounding YES!!! Imagine how much fuel you would save if you took your bicycle for shorter trips instead of your car?

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 3:54:06 AM

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Right on, LA!

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 8:48:17 AM

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quote:

sending a message to the inhumane corporate piggishness going on with oil companies

I hope you're joking, because to refer to "corporate piggishness" while living in a country that consumes 25% of the world's oil is really ridiculous. I'm sure Europeans must also find it humorous to see Americans complain about gas prices when they would be thrilled to buy gas as cheaply as we do.

The notion of boycotting gas also strikes me as a big joke, but then that is the sort of tough sounding BS one should expect from O'Reilly. If you're going to boycott gas you don't buy it -- period! Not using it one day a week isn't a boycott, that is conservation. But I suppose it is easier for O'Reilly to convince himself he's being tough on oil companies by leaving his SUV in the garage one day a week while he watches football games instead of actually taking energy conservation seriously.

The oil companies actually have very little control over prices as pointed out in this article about global energy supply and demand. I think that instead of being outraged over how expensive it is now people should instead be thankful that gas has been dirt cheap for so long.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 9:27:57 AM

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quote:

sending a message to the inhumane corporate piggishness going on with oil companies

I hope you're joking, because to refer to "corporate piggishness" while living in a country that consumes 25% of the world's oil is really ridiculous. I'm sure Europeans must also find it humorous to see Americans complain about gas prices when they would be thrilled to buy gas as cheaply as we do.

Yes, but also I find disturbing that, as I said above, American people complain about the high price of oil when their incredibly squandering lifestyle is responsible for this price.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 10:01:43 AM

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I say If wqe all get more people involved (vanillas too ) it would make a great message to the companies..wether or not they do anything is on them...I say we all go for it...it's not illegal or nothing so no real harm can come of it.....

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 11:04:45 AM

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

I've never seen a good reason to boycott anything. For example many do-gooders managed to call for a "successful" boycott of some product that was manufactured in Asia by people who were, in western standards, working as slaves for almost nothing (it was around 2$ per 12 hour-day). How generous were those do-gooders ! The factory closed, so those people in Asia lost their job, and from almost nothing their income dropped to nothing. It's very likely that their new conditions killed some of them. Hail the mighty do-gooders !

If you want to spend less money on gas, get rid of your SUV, get a Toyota Prius or another car that does 60 miles per gallon, don't heat your house over 19°C in winter, don't cool it below 26°C in summer, insulate your house, don't take your car if you can walk or take your bike...and then you'll spend 3 times less money on energy. Even less if you buy a solar heater to heat your water.

But I have never heard of a successful boycott. Remember ? The boycott of south african products started even before Nelson Mandela was imprisoned.
The boycott by the USA of Cuba started also around this long forgotten era. Effect ? Increased misery for Cubans.

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 11:41:40 AM

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I agree. The best message we could send the oil companies...and our government...and the world...would be to actually reduce our need for oil. Maybe we could *gasp* conserve? Or maybe we should continue to splurge and waste, and protest higher prices with whiny "boycotts" and other infantile gestures. Bitching and whining merely highlights our weakness. Sensible energy usage makes us stronger.

Bob

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RE: Would Boycotting Gasoline work? - 9/7/2005 12:07:13 PM

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quote:

I hope you're joking, because to refer to "corporate piggishness" while living in a country that consumes 25% of the world's oil is really ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous really.

I think the reason we consume more at better prices is because we used to have the power and controls in place to afford to live the way we lived.

I don't know enough about business/economics to get into a discussion of this magnitude, so I put out the question to see if people in general would try and conserve a little.
To be very honest, my idea was more to affect the massive profits oil companies are reaping (while whining about removal of oil from the earth, transport of it, and environmental regualtions).
I'm guilty of not knowing enough, maybe even caring enough until now to learn about energy conservation. Am also guilty of owning an SUV (smaller one), but for me, it's a matter of safety; I've owned new small american as well as small japanese cars, and have done 360 degree/life-flashing-before-my-eyes turns in the snow, so need the 4wheel drive to get safely to and from work when the weather is bad, and I'm called essential personnel. M

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