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MzMia -> Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 7:56:49 PM)
I never thought I would live to see this day. A Black man and a woman running for President of the United States, and one of them may actually become President of the United States. I know this is not the first time this has happened, but it IS the first time either one of them had a real chance of winning. Putting politics aside {lol}, did you EVER think you would live to see this day? Do you see the winner between Obama and Clinton, picking the other for Vice President? President Clinton, Vice President Obama OR President Obama, Vice President Clinton

Alumbrado -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:07:39 PM)
quote: President Obama, Vice President Clinton Obama's life expectancy in that scenario? Two weeks tops.

philosophy -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:09:02 PM)
As a corrollary (sp), do people think there will be a substantial vote for McCain as a reaction to the Democrats likely choices?

MzMia -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:13:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: President Obama, Vice President Clinton Obama's life expectancy in that scenario? Two weeks tops. Sad to say, I have thought that. Damn, I don't want to even think that.

SugarMyChurro -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:18:41 PM)
Philosophy: That's the big gamble right there. I have my doubts about the american people truly having an egalitarian outlook. Just when McCain seems like he would lose to a dead man...

TheHeretic -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:22:54 PM)
Good question, Phil. I think there are about an equal, small number of voters the Dems can usually rely on who would not vote for either a woman or a black man, regardless. Those votes might not go Repub, but they won't show up either. Hillary has the added burden of being widely despised personally. It's a lot more pronounced on the Repub side. Again, about an equal, small number of rascists/sexists would be motivated to vote against, but this is where the personal aspect really rears its head. Hillary as the Dem nominee would be the greatest GOTV (get out the vote) tool imaginable.

FangsNfeet -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:38:30 PM)
Some how, I just don't see this as a historical moment. I never cared for the statement "First Woman to ____" or "First Minority Person who _____" We're all people dreams, ideas, goals, and plans. I never doubted that a female or minority person can do what a male of the majority could do. Frankly, I'll be more shocked to see an Independant President than I ever will be seeing a woman or minority person in the oval office chair.

Level -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:40:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet Frankly, I'll be more shocked to see an Independant President than I ever will be seeing a woman or minority person in the oval office chair. You may have a point there. [8\|]

DomKen -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:49:18 PM)
No, I didn't think I would ever see it. I am actually hopeful for a Clinton/Obama ticket and that no violence occurs. That ticket would be in a tight race with McCain but I still don't think McCain will ultimately win the nomination. Huckabee picked up a lot of delegate stonight and with that will come money as the conservatives abandon Romney. Huckabee - McCain one on one in Virginia and Texas is not a good scenario for McCain. It may very well come down to Romney's delegates and how they're allowed to split once he's officially withdrawn. Ultimately I think tonight showed that McCain does not have any pull in the south which the GOP needs to win and Obama got out the vote down there in unprecedented fashion. Can McCain win the general election without strong support from the base

FangsNfeet -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:54:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen No, I didn't think I would ever see it. I am actually hopeful for a Clinton/Obama ticket and that no violence occurs. A Clinton Nominee taking Obama as a Running mate? Can or would Obama suck up the pride to accept and vice versa with Hillary? That's a tough call and a risky move. Whoever gets the nomination, I suspect the running mate will be someone not well known by the mass populace. I'm thinking a State Senator, Congressman, or Representitive. A person who didn't even run for president.

MzMia -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 8:57:47 PM)
Well if nothing else, this Presidential election is making history, and is getting many involved that normally are not involved in politics. How does President Huckabee sound? I just can't fathom saying that one.

Level -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:11:26 PM)
Presidend Huck? [:)] I can see Obama as Clinton's VP, but not the other way around.

Nosathro -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:11:49 PM)
As for me...well there was a thread here about a British paper saying that if Clinton wins the Democrates Nomination the GOP candidate will win the election..and I believe that is what will happen. If Hillary picks Bill for the VP slot..it will happen for sure.

MzMia -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:13:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro As for me...well there was a thread here about a British paper saying that if Clinton wins the Democrates Nomination the GOP candidate will win the election..and I believe that is what will happen. If Hillary picks Bill for the VP slot..it will happen for sure. Thanks Nosathro, I never thought about Hillary picking Bill as her VP! lol

MissSCD -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:16:42 PM)
*I knew in my lifetime that we would see an African American ticket for the WhiteHouse.* *I also knew we would see a woman run.* *It is going to be a nail biter all the way down to the end of the Democratic Convention.* *My answer to your question MzMia, is yes.* *Regards, MissSCD*

Level -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:18:32 PM)
I'm not sure if she could pick him: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901572.html

DomKen -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:19:26 PM)
Hilary cannot choose Bill as VP. Beyond 22nd ammendment issues they have the same home state and the POTUS and VPOTUS are not allowed to come from the same state, 12th ammendment. Smart money says that assuming the Clintons haven't burned the bridge beyond repair that if Hilary wins the nomination she asks Obama to be her running mate as it gives her strength in the south and a popular running mate in traditionally GOP areas.

Phin -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:22:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia How does President Huckabee sound? frankly of all the canidates at this point, he scares me the most... Hope I never live to see that man in the whitehouse

philosophy -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:23:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia How does President Huckabee sound? ....like a posh fast food chain......

Shawn1066 -> RE: Obama and Clinton making history (2/5/2008 9:29:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phin quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia How does President Huckabee sound? frankly of all the canidates at this point, he scares me the most... Hope I never live to see that man in the whitehouse Insert disagreement here Insert respect of beliefs here Insert sign of DV's Ownership here ...I've always wanted to make a post like that, but I just can't do it without putting some sense into it. :-p Oh, and I love the sound of it. I'm going to be more realistic and get accustomed to the sound of "Vice President Huckabee"

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