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The GOP is not a party of zombies that will fall in line to whatever dummy is propped up there like the Democrats are. There are 3 legs in the GOP:
1. The fiscal conservatives - who support small government, balanced budgets, etc..
2. The social conservatives - who are big on social-religious issues like stem cells, abortion, and gay marriage.
3. The moderates - These are the neo-cons, establishment Republicans.
Reagan and the Bush's were special because they were able to unite these three legs. And when the three legs are united the party is very difficult to defeat. The years the party was fractured, the Democrats won. Back in 1992, the fiscal conservatives became angry at Bush and bolted and supported Ross Perot, that left enough opening for Clinton to win. In 2000, George W. Bush supported big tax cuts and CLAIMED he supported smaller government (a promise he did not keep) but the fiscals trusted him in 2000 and even again in 2004. And Bush won both elections.
Now in 2008, the fiscals are ROYALLY pissed and have declared civil war within the GOP. And many are even talking about a protest vote to Hillary or Obama in order to punish the neo-cons and establishment Republicans supporting McCain. And those fiscals make up a decent proportion of the Republican base. They make up about 25% of the total national electorate. Some may fall in line...but Im willing to bet a similar thing occurs that happened in 1992...10-15% will bolt. And that will be well more than enough to destroy McCain's chances. Especially if they truely do vote in protest to Hillary.
George W. Bush and McCain are the same animal. They are neo-con liberals. They both support big government, open borders, pro-war, runaway spending, etc... And the fiscal conservatives are saying they are just not going to vote for that animal anymore. It was actually kind of smart what the establishment GOPers did. They propped up Huckabee to split the vote in McCain's favor. The neo-cons were facing defeat within the GOP. That was obvious since 2006. That's why McCain's campaign was heading down the toilet last summer and last fall. The fiscal and social conservative wings were trying to push the neo-cons out. Then Huckabee was the strategic spoiler. First he knocked out Thompson and then he knocked out Romney.
The fiscals see what happened and they are pissed now. So yeah the GOP is heading for defeat this November. I guarantee it now.
That is the first time I've heard Neo-Cons and moderate used in the same sentence. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The "Neo-Cons" are the farthest from moderate that you can get. I would agree with the first two legs of your theory, but the third is simply a group of very rich, very powerful people that use mass distraction to cover up the fact that they are raping the country of its resources. Why do you think the top story every week is some bullshit about Britany or some other celebrity. They want to keep us stupid. They want us to vote for whatever shill they put up there. And the worst part is, its working! If the fiscal conservatives, the true Republicans, were so pissed off, why isn't Ron Paul doing better? He is the only true Republican running, and you can tell by the reaction of Shawn Hannity and the other Fox News correspondents, they are scared shitless of him! Did anyone else notice that after Romney backed out, the media said "this is now a two person race?" Aren't they forgetting someone? Wouldn't the fiscal conservative "protest vote" be better spent on a fiscal conservative?
While McCain and Bush have a lot of similarities, they are not the same person. Bush appitomizes big business controlling government and using the treasury as its own personal piggy bank. I campaigned for John McCain when he ran in 1999. The reason I supported him was because he spent his own money to run full page ads in the New York Times listing all of congresses' pork barrel spending. I'm not supporting him this time, because he has sold out to the social conservatives and the Republican base. It used to be that Republicans believed in less spending, smaller government, protecting the US instead of policing the world, and protecting the people from government. The Neo-Cons that have siezed power are nothing more than fascists. They are using the federal government to make themselves and their friends rich. They own the major media sources, and control the information that we are given. The only reporters that seem to have any balls anymore, are from the AP and BBC, and they are finding themselves left out if they tell the truth.
They have also effectively polarized Hillary as a lover her or hate her candidate. If the democrats want to shoot themselves in the foot, yet again, and give her the nomination, she will surely lose the general election. The power brokers have too much dirt on her, and they will run her through the mud like we have never seen.
Wake up people, there are more choices than what we are fed, regardless of what the media tells us. What would the founding fathers do if they were in our situation? What would Thomas Jefferson or George Washington do? They would revolt. Unfortunately, we are too fat, too lazy, too distracted, and just happy enough, that by the time we fit it into our schedules, it will be too late.
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