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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 1:46:29 PM   
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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 1:50:25 PM   
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I believe that intelligence should not be the only criteria to whether a woman should be allowed to have children....What if the woman is overweight or ugly? God forbid these horrific genes be passed down to future generations.

Is it just a dream that future Domiguys and gals will not have to rely on alcohol to make their sex partners palatable?

I have a dream....

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 1:58:29 PM   
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I don't believe the number of people that will posts "their Beliefs" which make them look like intolerant, closeminded A-holes.

It's kind of cool that if you give an idiot a forum they just can help but to utilize it. They can't begin to help themselves...Isn't that Kewl?

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:10:10 PM   
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I believe that people who feel the need to stop other people from having abortions should not be allowed to buy condoms or birth control...

Because every sperm is sacred....


If this isn't a joke.. then who the hell values sperm?  It's the fetus that's genetically human, similiar to a human, and far more potentially an adult human.

While I'm pretty sure you're joking, I do have to assert some reason into something that sounds like a possible abortion sentiment.  :P


I do.

Since we can't be absolutely sure where exactly the point is that human life is conceived, I am not taking any chances.

I feel nothing but shame and view masturbators as murderers for the mass genocide they commit one, two, three, sometimes even four times a day.

That's my controversial opinion of the day.

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:28:32 PM   
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I'm firmly against this idea of a parenthood licence.
I mean... what the fuck, people  ?


Well, certifying them to make sure they have a basic idea of what it means to be a parent, and the requisite finances, doesn't seem like a bad idea.
Might not be so bad to make sure they're not certifiably insane, convicted child molesters or the like, either.
Not my personal take on it, but doesn't seem unreasonable.

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:29:45 PM   
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Actually, 20's not too bad.  Considering that an IQ score of 20 means that you're smarter than 20 percent of the rest of the population, and in my world everyone would take one....


20 also means you do not have the intelligence to figure out how to open a door unless somebody shows you how.

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:41:17 PM   
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This science died when people realised that evolution works best when random genes are mixed together rather than individually selected through breeding. All people have defects in their chromosomes, these defects only become apparent as diseases when those recessive genes are all there is to choose from.


Actually, this science died when people went "ZOMG, noes! Hitler did that!", sort of like the fear of everything "nuculear" ...

In GA theory, there are demonstrated advantages to selective breeding, and in social sciences, it has been demonstrated that the IQ average undergoes negative drift. What happens is that a fat tail builds up, and then ice ages and the like come along, wiping out most of the population, and the fat tail then becomes the average. Then the average starts to drift downward again. Selectively enhancing a few traits slightly isn't a problem. Excluding certain traits, or strongly enhancing them, is a significant problem, called monoculture.

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So sure you can breed athletes but they are more likely to also end up with haemophilia, sickle cell anaemia, osteoporosis etc.


Actually, inbreeding is used to solve such problems in GA. The only issue is that there may be benefits to each of them that we do not realize. Hence, by avoiding monoculture, we retain genes that could be useful in the long run. Offering financial incentives to not have a second child with Downs Syndrome is really just mimicking what nature was doing all along, except it's being nicer about it. An Ice Age or resource shortage would not be nearly so nice about it, and those do pop up at regular intervals.

As long as one retains diversity and limits selection to a slight shifting of the balance away from uncontroversially negative genetic traits, it's a net win for the species, and also pretty much in line with what evolution looked like before modern society enabled us to keep all the individuals that nature would have weeded out. The difference being that it's a more gentle approach, and one that is opt-in. Left unchecked, however, people like aspies would be weeded out, and there's no shortage of examples of great historical figures that would never have happened if popular eugenics were performed. Hence my qualifying statements.

Note also that it's effectively an arms race. If China starts doing it, your choice is to be left behind in the dust and hope they don't get expansive, or to start doing it yourself, on their terms, rather than your own. New technology and the opportunities it brings are the proverbial Pandora's Box, but you have to grab it and make it your own, or else someone else will make it theirs. You can't put it back into the box, but you can choose how you want to use it, and that can lead to some control over how others will use it.

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Hybrid theory is that the best genetic mix is a diverse one and you don’t get that by limiting the gene pool by only allowing people with a certain IQ to reproduce. The idea of eugenics is counter productive to itself and has long been realised as such.


I quite agree. Eugenics has to be a gentle nudge, or else you lose everything in the long run. Of course, that happens anyway, but I digress.

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:42:35 PM   
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Isn't it time for the Vatican to open all doors, books, and scrolls for everyone to read? Let's see where all the money comes from and where it really goes. Let's see why certain choices and descisons where really made in the name of God.


They've gone half the way. You can request any text you know by name. There may be some exceptions in the papal records.

It's coming, it's coming... and, yeah, it will be interesting in the end.

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 2:49:19 PM   
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1) That the prisoners in Guantanamo didn't get nearly the beatings that they deserved.



I believe that people who believe this should be anonymously, summarily, severely, repeatedly and indeterminably punished for any wrongdoing they are vaguely suspected of, without recourse for any form of defense.


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:11:24 PM   
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1) That the prisoners in Guantanamo didn't get nearly the beatings that they deserved.



I believe that people who believe this should be anonymously, summarily, severely, repeatedly and indeterminably punished for any wrongdoing they are vaguely suspected of, without recourse for any form of defense.


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Hmmmm....if I'm not mistaken the title of this thread is ....."What are some of your most controversial opinions?"...... So why bash?....


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:14:25 PM   
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I dunno, breathes.. that COULD be considered controversial ;)

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:26:31 PM   
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The moratorium on replies was lifted a few pages ago, breathasone. And like, GT said, it raised your ire and so it qualifies as controversial now.


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:27:18 PM   
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I dunno, breathes.. that COULD be considered controversial ;)

I'm a "controversy" whore...I just can't help myself....


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:30:12 PM   
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The moratorium on replies was lifted a few pages ago, breathasone. And like, GT said, it raised your ire and so it qualifies as controversial now.


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No Sir...I just was wondering why on a thread asking for "controversial opinions" people were being bashed for providing them..... besides, my IRE is at the cleaners...so its not "raised" LOL


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:30:14 PM   
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ahhhh HA!


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PS: I do get your point though - anticipated censorship discourages expression. So I apologise for bashing but not for the bash... if you get what I mean.


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:41:20 PM   
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Milk is disgusting.




I agree with this, I have never understood why humans drink a cows milk.  We are the ONLY species of animal that drinks the milk of another. 

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:42:49 PM   
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Milk is disgusting.




I agree with this, I have never understood why humans drink a cows milk.  We are the ONLY species of animal that drinks the milk of another. 

HEY!!....don't critizie my KINK!!....LMAO...sorry I just couldn't resist...


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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:57:24 PM   
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I agree with this, I have never understood why humans drink a cows milk.  We are the ONLY species of animal that drinks the milk of another. 


You mean to tell me gorillas don't have dairy farms? 

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 3:59:11 PM   
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Has anyone actually seen NON nekked ones?




I have, I have!!!!!He's  a hottie!!!!!!

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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions? - 2/9/2008 4:18:47 PM   
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ahhhh HA!


Z.

PS: I do get your point though - anticipated censorship discourages expression. So I apologise for bashing but not for the bash... if you get what I mean.


Actually I DO understand...more than you may think....


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