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RE: What is love? - 2/8/2008 7:35:08 PM   
caitlyn


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
A ten inch cock.


For true love, you need to add a Ferrari, and steady stream to badass concert tickets.

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RE: What is love? - 2/8/2008 7:45:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay... we have: lots of good feelings, a ferrarri, big cocks, chemicals, a few sprinklings of spirits, a pinch or two of lust, some concert tickets, some cheese.. what else?

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RE: What is love? - 2/8/2008 7:55:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe that love is singular.
It's something given, not something recieved. 
It's given freely with no expectations, it's something that can be accepted or not. 
It cant be taken away, or forced. 
It's yours, you own it no matter how often you give it. 

enjoy it, treasure it


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RE: What is love? - 2/8/2008 8:01:10 PM   
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RE: What is love? - 2/8/2008 8:03:22 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		It looks like you want serious answers ... so here goes.
 
I've never once told someone that I loved them ... but love clearly exists. It seems to be used too often. People I've dated for two weeks have told me they loved me. How can that be ... I've known me, my whole life, and don't love myself.
 
Those that play the love card so quickly and easily ... if you call them on it, they tell you they have so much love to give, and give it freely. That may be true, but may be truly convenient. Our staggering divorse rate might suggest that todays love, is tomorrows hate.
 
Love, at least as it relates to relationships, is perhaps something that needs to past a value test. If given freely and easily, that will be it's worth. While it may not be fashionable to make each other earn love ... it may be wise, in that something you work for, is often considered more valuable.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 5:24:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: caitlyn
... I've known me, my whole life, and don't love myself.


You know, that's sad. You should work on that. You simply have to know who you are and love yourself. If you don't at least like yourself I don't think it's even possible for you to engage in any human relationships with integrity or trust. You must allow your own sense of self to take root before you can move forward.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 6:25:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		my definition of  love and lust

by example LUST  see a girl on friday and go to bed. (together) saturday found a different girl. (samething insues.) but no feelings are there. no guilt or phone calls to the previous girl

LOVE two people geuinly concerned about the other person and there well being. To love another is best described when you are apart, for one reason or another. (still together)  While you are doing your daily routine, and seeing something of your partner in what you do or looking for your partner when you normally do something together.  Also being happy without your partner but still missing that something. Yet when you and your partner are together you not only are happy but feel more complete.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 6:35:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Caitlyn, contrary to some popular bullshit quote I've heard far too often, and used to actually believe. Other people really can love you, even though you do not love yourself.

Lots of people loved me before I did, it was how I discovered how lovable I really am.

Your post reminded me of a very dear friend of mine. There was a time, when she and I seriously toyed with the idea of becoming an "us". We were and still are, that close. We've been friendsalmostlovers, for quite a few years now. The other day she was having a difficult time, really down, and we were talking and I told her I loved her. It's true, I have for years. Even when I was so mad at her I could shake her, even when she was so mad at me she wouldn't talk to me, even when she was so ashamed of her shit she would avoid me for months because she knew what I would think and say about what she was doing. I still loved her then and I love her now. I don't know if we will ever be more than very very good friends that know alot of each others deepest darkest scary stuff. But I do know that, if anything, the love will get stronger. We just have that sort of connection.

She is far from loving herself, she sees very little value in the woman she is. Knowing her background, the horrendous abuses she suffered from people that should have given her nothing but love and guidance. Knowing the deep scars left on her soul, I don't know if she ever will find it in her to love herself. Yet, I do, her daughter does, and a few other people that see things in her she is not yet ready to see.

Caitlyn, I am very sure that wether you are yet able to love yourself, there are people that will see what you cannot and love you regardless.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 7:07:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Caitlyn, sometimes it's enough to like yourself and to like the other person as well.  Mutual attraction and affection can go a long way in making a fulfilling relationship.  Many people do toss around the word "love" and I think it probably doesn't mean the same thing to them that it does to others.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 7:54:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		And what Katy said so well. I wasn't so much focused on the whole relationship idea of love. That is where the word gets abused far too often in my opinion.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:00:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course we can be loved even if we don't love ourselves, but we can't love others if we don't love ourselves. Caitlyn, I highly recommend you read The Art of Loving - Erich Fromm.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:05:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think people can love if they don't love themselves, but it's probably a messed up sort of love.  Like one that a co-dependent or narcissist displays.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:13:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not so sure about that either. I know I loved my children long before I think I loved myself. Now, did I love myself and not even realize it? I don't know. Perhaps the nature of my love for others changed, grew in depth and scope but I know that there are many people I have always loved.

I do think that I am far more open in my loving now. I don't have much of the restrictions I used to set on others.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:16:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it's a love that isn't recognized by the self because it hasn't reached full bloom.  I'm getting more confused.  : -)

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:20:44 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		Me too! But you know, I rather like it. Pushes me to think outside my little boxes. I love threads that do this for me.

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:26:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Love is a song it starts with happiness and ends in heartbreak. How many happy love songs are there? The suicide rate is less for those that listen to heavy metal ‘we are going to kill your granny and pickle her eyeballs’ type tracks or ‘death, death isn’t the world dark and gloomy, here comes the something reaper thingamajig’. You can see I know all the words to these songs like the back of me hand.
 
There are three types of love
 
Platonic
Aplatonic
and errm....

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:29:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		"In spite of the deep-seated craving for love, almost
everything else is considered to be more important than
love: success, prestige, money, power - almost all our
energy is is used for the learning of how to achieve
these aims, and almost none to learn the art of loving".

The Art of Loving - Fromm

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 8:30:10 AM   
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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 2:21:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I wanted was a sweet distraction for an hour or two.
Had no intention to do the things we've done.
Funny how it always goes with love, when you don't look, you find.
But then we're two of a kind, we move as one.

We're an all time high,
We'll change all that's gone before.
Doing so much more than falling in love.
On an all time high,
We'll take on the world and wait.
So hold on tight, let the flight begin.

I don't want to waste a waking moment; I don't want to sleep.
I'm in so strong and so deep, and so are you.
In my time I've said these words before, but now I realize
My heart was telling me lies, for you they're true.

We're an all time high,
We'll change all that's gone before.
Doing so much more than falling in love.
On an all time high,
We'll take on the world and wait.
So hold on tight, let the flight begin.

So hold on tight, let the flight begin.
We're an all time high

All time high, Rita Coolidge

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RE: What is love? - 2/9/2008 3:46:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		love is percieved differently by everyone.

love is a little like going on the waltzers none stop for an hour well when you begin to fall in love i think thats what it feels like.

love is a feeling that can't be explained
love is not what makes the world go round
love can sometimes be felt in the pitt of your stomach
its a warm fuzzy, huge whopping butterflies type feeling - also associated with lust
love is a burning passion
love is seen in the eyes
love is heard in silence
love is your name being safe in someone elses mouth
love can be the most painful thing in the world
love can cloud your judgement
love can be the most beautiful thing around
specially when watching it grow
love can destroy the soul
love is unpredictable
love is putting someone else before your self.
love is both selfish and selfless

family love is totally different

family love can be cruel, kind, loyal, warm and cold.

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