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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Why don't you stop being lazy and do the research yourself. What good things have you posted about the US? If someone were to complain about their job all the time, the logical conclusion would be they hate their job. Also, what party line are you talking about?


OrionTheWolf:
As I have already pointed out,when one makes a statement it is incumbent on that individual to substantiate his or her posting.
I am not complaining about my job.
I am pointing out fallacies in certain assumptions posted by some people.
It is clear from your posts that you tend to be a conservative.  On numerous occasions I have seen you post points that call to task certain of the policies of the current and past "conservative" administrations.  When you do so I do not accuse you of hating America, on the contrary I applaud your candor in speaking up for what is right.
When America does something right it stands out as self evident and shines as the sun in the sky and needs no further comment.  When amerika does something reprehensible it demands that men and women of conscience speak up.
In your other post you say that Castro and "Ace McCain" are both politicians.....nothing could be farther from the truth.  Castro is a revolutionary and the acclaimed leader of the Cuban people.  He has done more for Cuba than any other man in history.  Castro is by any measure a true Cuban patriot....in the same vein as Thomas Paine or Jefferson were American patriots.  "Ace McCain" is,as you justly describe him, just another politician.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: jeanie239

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

~FR~

Interesting, a simple search revealed several international charges filed against Castro for murder and torture. Easy to act if something does not exist if you keep your eyes closed. Some people either look the other way, or are just lazy. That or they show their irrational hatred of the US when ever they get the chance.

Talking about looking the other way, why are you equally not condemning the waterboarding of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (officially declared as torture by the Geneva Convention), or the United States (official) policy of CIA assassination that existed through the 60's, 70's and mid 80's?

I would condemn those things wherever they happened, not only in my own country but especially in my own country.

This is what happens when your glasses only look in one direction.

Anything else wouldn`t be "patriotic",would it?

A big difference between conservatives and liberals is conservatives view the US as an authority figure,to be obeyed and adored,like a parent or "Daddy".

For liberals,it`s the other way around.

Liberals view our country as a ward or offspring.To be guided and corrected when wrong and supported when right.Without guidance and responsible control, an UM is doomed to failure and trouble.The same goes for a nation.

The parent/UM analogy works well.

For a parent,real love,true love,is tough love.The kind of love that UMs need to be good,contributing,responsible,citizens.This is how liberals feel about government."We the people" run the house,not the other way around.

For an UM,their parents can`t do wrong,ever.The parents could be a thieves and murderers,and the UMs will still love and adore them,un-conditionally.

This is how conservatives view the US.They can`t and won`t question authority,and just like an UM who will defend even a murderous parent,their loyalty is completely blind.It`s "hard wired" and one reason why they ridicule others for questioning authority.

Ever meet a family where the parents let their UMs run wild and un-disciplined?

Spoiled and reckless with awful behaviors,you want to bitch slap the parents for being so irresponsible and for praising their UMs for being fuck -ups.God forbid you should say anything to the parents.Like conservatives who defend failure,those parents will attack you for criticizing them.

I`m hoping for some tough love on November 2.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

Why would I care what Castro thinks?

orfunboi:
Self imposed ignorance is it's own reward.
thompson
 

 
 

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

ORIGINAL: Muttling

LMAO......Castro is obviously trying to sway the latino vote away from McCain, but the VAST majority of latino's would vote for McCain just because Castro said "don't do it".

I'm not sure if the guy is an idiot against McCain or an intelligent McCain supporter.

muttling:
Are you suggesting that all Latinos in America are Cuban?
Are you suggesting that all Latinos in America are anti Castro?
thompson

No thompson, he wrote the VAST Majority, not ALL.  That you have to change what he says to argue against it says something about your position

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Then why did you feel a need to change what he wrote?
You and I have discussed your comprehension problems before.  Unless and until you master the English language we will continue to have this problem.

Why are all these Latinos coming to the USA instead of Cuba, if they like Fidel? 
I would suggest that you ask them since they are the ones who left Cuba and not me.
I would think that being able to bypass the normal channels of immigration and access to the economic advantages of the U.S. may have weighed heavily in their decision.  If you are a Mexican the waiting list is years long but if you are a Cuban being an "illegal alien" is an instant green card and a fast track to citizenship.

Why isn't there a mass migration of Latinos into Cuba, if they support him?
Please define "mass migration".  I am sure you were aware that the mother of Elian Gonzalez had made several trips back and forth from Cuba to the U.S.

So you had a good time with some of Castros Whores? 
It would appear from your characterization of Cuban whores as Castro's whores then all whores in America are Bush's whores.  I am curious as to how you would deal with British whores...would they be the queen's whores or the PM's whores?
 
Thats nice.   I hear they are some of the cheapest, best hookers on the planet.
We had rather "limited" access to whores when I was stationed at Guantanamo.
I would submit that the best and least expensive hookers are in Copenhagen with Amsterdam being a close second.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Then why did you feel a need to change what he wrote?  Why are all these Latinos coming to the USA instead of Cuba, if they like Fidel?  Why isn't there a mass migration of Latinos into Cuba, if they support him?

So you had a good time with some of Castros Whores?  Thats nice.   I hear they are some of the cheapest, best hookers on the planet.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: jeanie239

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

~FR~

Interesting, a simple search revealed several international charges filed against Castro for murder and torture. Easy to act if something does not exist if you keep your eyes closed. Some people either look the other way, or are just lazy. That or they show their irrational hatred of the US when ever they get the chance.

Talking about looking the other way, why are you equally not condemning the waterboarding of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (officially declared as torture by the Geneva Convention), or the United States (official) policy of CIA assassination that existed through the 60's, 70's and mid 80's?

I would condemn those things wherever they happened, not only in my own country but especially in my own country.

This is what happens when your glasses only look in one direction.

Anything else wouldn`t be "patriotic",would it?

A big difference between conservatives and liberals is conservatives view the US as an authority figure,to be obeyed and adored,like a parent or "Daddy".

For liberals,it`s the other way around.

Liberals view our country as a ward or offspring.To be guided and corrected when wrong and supported when right.Without guidance and responsible control, an UM is doomed to failure and trouble.The same goes for a nation.

The parent/UM analogy works well.

For a parent,real love,true love,is tough love.The kind of love that UMs need to be good,contributing,responsible,citizens.This is how liberals feel about government."We the people" run the house,not the other way around.

For an UM,their parents can`t do wrong,ever.The parents could be a thieves and murderers,and the UMs will still love and adore them,un-conditionally.

This is how conservatives view the US.They can`t and won`t question authority,and just like an UM who will defend even a murderous parent,their loyalty is completely blind.It`s "hard wired" and one reason why they ridicule others for questioning authority.

Ever meet a family where the parents let their UMs run wild and un-disciplined?

Spoiled and reckless with awful behaviors,you want to bitch slap the parents for being so irresponsible and for praising their UMs for being fuck -ups.God forbid you should say anything to the parents.Like conservatives who defend failure,those parents will attack you for criticizing them.

I`m hoping for some tough love on November 2.

Owner:
I would suggest that you do not have a firm grasp on the differences between "Conservative" and "Liberal".  You might want to go back and reread Locke,Hume and Rousseau.  You are describing the differences between "demopubs" and "republicrats".
"Demopubs"and "Republicrats" are not the semantic equivalents of "Conservative" and "Liberal"
thompson
 

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

Why would I care what Castro thinks?

orfunboi:
Self imposed ignorance is it's own reward.
thompson
 

 
 

Ignorance has nothing to do with it. I simply don't care what Castro thinks.

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I wasn`t speaking historically.It only takes a generation or two,and word meanings can change or flip completely.

Example.Awful used to mean something good, as in awesome.


I was referring to present day American conservatives and liberals.
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Owner:
Are these definitions written down anyplace besides in your post?
If not then are there any other words I will need clarification on?
thompson

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

No thompson, I asked why Millions of Latinos are coming to the the USA instead of Going to Cuba.  Not asking anything at all about why they are leaving Cuba.  The tens of millions of Latinos (from Mexico and Central America) who have left thier home for better live in other countries.  Why are they not going to Cuba?   Your comprehension difficulties are getting tiresome.

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Thompson, but you are asserting opinions onto the Amreican Latino Community.  If Socialism is so good why do they want to come here?  Why do they want Money instead of Socialism?  That question goes to Meat also?  Why does the proffessor want Money instead of Socialism?

And Muttling said "vast majority", you changed it to "all".  You demonstrate your integrity by pretending otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Owner:
I would suggest that you do not have a firm grasp on the differences between "Conservative" and "Liberal".  You might want to go back and reread Locke,Hume and Rousseau.  You are describing the differences between "demopubs" and "republicrats".
"Demopubs"and "Republicrats" are not the semantic equivalents of "Conservative" and "Liberal"
thompson
 

I wasn`t speaking historically.It only takes a generation or two,and word meanings can change or flip completely.

Example.Awful used to mean something good, as in awesome.


I was referring to present day American conservatives and liberals.

Historical has nothing to do with it.  And the meaning hasn't changed.  The meaning of Republican may have changed, which is why the conservatives are so fed up.  And pretty sick to death of being automatically included (read tarred and feathered) in your  "neo-con" rants.  However, if you mean "neo-con" when you write "present day American conservatives" then please say so.  At least then I will know that you are not referring to Me!   

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: jeanie239

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

~FR~

Interesting, a simple search revealed several international charges filed against Castro for murder and torture. Easy to act if something does not exist if you keep your eyes closed. Some people either look the other way, or are just lazy. That or they show their irrational hatred of the US when ever they get the chance.

Talking about looking the other way, why are you equally not condemning the waterboarding of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay (officially declared as torture by the Geneva Convention), or the United States (official) policy of CIA assassination that existed through the 60's, 70's and mid 80's?

I would condemn those things wherever they happened, not only in my own country but especially in my own country.

This is what happens when your glasses only look in one direction.

Anything else wouldn`t be "patriotic",would it?

A big difference between conservatives and liberals is conservatives view the US as an authority figure,to be obeyed and adored,like a parent or "Daddy".

For liberals,it`s the other way around.

Liberals view our country as a ward or offspring.To be guided and corrected when wrong and supported when right.Without guidance and responsible control, an UM is doomed to failure and trouble.The same goes for a nation.

The parent/UM analogy works well.

For a parent,real love,true love,is tough love.The kind of love that UMs need to be good,contributing,responsible,citizens.This is how liberals feel about government."We the people" run the house,not the other way around.

For an UM,their parents can`t do wrong,ever.The parents could be a thieves and murderers,and the UMs will still love and adore them,un-conditionally.

This is how conservatives view the US.They can`t and won`t question authority,and just like an UM who will defend even a murderous parent,their loyalty is completely blind.It`s "hard wired" and one reason why they ridicule others for questioning authority.

Ever meet a family where the parents let their UMs run wild and un-disciplined?

Spoiled and reckless with awful behaviors,you want to bitch slap the parents for being so irresponsible and for praising their UMs for being fuck -ups.God forbid you should say anything to the parents.Like conservatives who defend failure,those parents will attack you for criticizing them.

I`m hoping for some tough love on November 2.