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lovingpet -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 10:50:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia quote: ORIGINAL: mystique2003 Do you value intelligence in those you own? Do you like the ability to be able to debate things such as politics, or heathcare or football with your slave? Or would you rather have them be ignorant of issues and events of the world? Wonderful topic, mystique! [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif] "Real" intelligence is a turn-on for me. It is like an aphrodisiac.....sigh. Impress me with your thoughts, your views, your skills, and your mind. ...........deep sighing......................... THAT is when you start to really turn me on. I want to crave your mind, like a drug addict. I need you to be one of THE most interesting and mentally stimulating people I know. Blow me the fuck away, with your thoughts. Mystify me, blow my damn mind with your intelligence![;)] Damn it, it is very hot in here. I feel a little dirty, now. Time for a shower. [:D] I would be happy to blow you away with my thoughts any day MzMia! Need some company for that shower??? lovingpet

lovingpet -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 11:02:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist quote: ORIGINAL: amayos Intelligence is always a virtue. However, knowledge of "current issues and world events" isn't necessarily a good measure of intelligence in general, or the type of intelligence that is sought. I imagine some Keepers may desire distance from these things in their servants for any number of understandable reasons, such as disassociation from outside influence. We typically like to model intelligence in the form of ability to debate, but I find one's aptness to sit at the feet of another, look up, listen and zealously absorb equally as valid. When one is trying to form a working team- with one as the servant........then the ability of the servant to fully comprehend the game plan and execute it is a sign of very high intelligence. The ability to be in compliance, in a thoughtful and useful manner is valuable in such a situation. Indeed, one does not delegate important responsibilities to a "blow up doll". Any more than one would delegate them to a fractious "debator" who was so busy arguing and being afflicted with tunnel vision.....that thier much vaunted "intelligence" became a disability to thier performance. In short, such individuals are so busy proving thier "strength", that they become incompetent to in any way equate to the word. Serving with dilligence and astounding ability does not equate to being a "doormat" in my eyes. It points to worthiness. I'd take the doormat over the asshat any day. I always hope to maintain a balance about myself. I want to use my mind with all the force it demands to be satisfied, but I do not want to ever seem to be condescending to others. The ability to collaborate and contribute in a relationship are skills that are clearly underrated (just look at soaring divorce rates and at the ever shortening lengths of other unions). I hope my posts are a help and give uesful fodder for a conversation to a thread and that this intention is always clear in my posts, or as much as a flawed individual can manage. Regards, lovingpet

Sundowner -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 11:08:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp umm...Sir i think that all Twue and Weal Doms require thwee holes...may i now skip to the head of the class??? ~C-student sub [sm=applause.gif] (And you can skip to give me head any time beautiful lady).

trueshadow -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 11:56:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah FastReply Intelegence is a WONDERFUL thing and one I respect very very much! However, when this question is usually asked they aren't asking if I value thier intelegence, they are asking if I am going to tolerate thier snobishness toward other people. I don't care for negative people, I don't care for negative attitudes and as a general rule try to keep free of thier influence however from time to time I run into a girl who is pretty and worldly and smart and GaspE-Gad A Bitch too! After a few conversations where all I hear is them putting people down for the immproper use of the word "Diligent" I usually inform them that I must not be the class of person they wish to be conversing with and excuse myself and kill all contact. I have been accused of not being able to handle an Intelegent Woman when in reality I just don't have the patience or the time to deal with a bitch. My wife/slave is smart, perhaps not college graduate smart but then again neither am I, I like the english language but don't always use it with an english majors zeal and for this I also fail to use Grammar correctly or Puncuation for that matter. Do I want to be corrected? No not usually, but if I ask to have my girl proof read something then I want her too, however if I didn't ask for it I don't want it. Does this mean I don't value Intelegence? I don't think so I think I don't care for intelectual superiority and the ego that comes from it, but dealing with people smarter than me is usually fun I learn all sorts of things from them, it's when thier ego springs us and I get the feeling they they think they are better than me because they are smarter than me this is where I have a problem. As Always Steel I have to admit that misspellings and poor grammar do bother me. Obviously, outside of a spelling bee champ, most of us can be unsure of the spelling of a word. Perhaps we might be unsure of proper sentence construction. That's what dictionaries and style manuals are for. Computers also have spell and grammar checkers. How difficult is it to use them? It takes time to use them and to learn the basic rules of English. Not to do so, to me, indicates a lack of motivation or, yes, just pure laziness. I love to debate and, for me, an intelligent woman is a big plus. I mean, who could be with Paris Hilton for more than one night? I do agree that someone who is saddled with hubris would be insufferable.

littlesui -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 12:17:03 PM)
For me, the fun of a relationship is having someone who shares my interests, humour, intelligence, sarcasm. Someone with who I can discuss, laugh, share and deepen my appreciate of the world, myself and 'us'. Someone I can share my work with - who is interested and understands. I also need to submit out of respect - and that means being with someone I respect intellectually and who has the capacity to 'get inside of my head'. A Dom with the attitude of 'shut up I'm in charge' would do absolutely nothing for me... Show me first why I should submit, earn my respect - then you have my complete and undivided attenton

Justme696 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 12:32:38 PM)
mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence?

SailingBum -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 12:54:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence? the list is endless al einstein while smart abandon his wife and kids at a early age what a piece of work! look a bush dunno how smart he is ..but a idiot in my book and dumb ass me voted for him the first time around lol. BadOne

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 1:15:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence? One of the most genius women I know is a flippin nut! She is brilliant but with no common sense. She doesnt believe in immunizing her child...he'll get autism. She sends him to a school that doesnt reqiure it.This is completely unsubstantiated that mecury causes this problem in immunizations. They took the mercury out. Autism still exists. She also thinks you get cancer from cell phones. This is a childhood friend. I love her. Shes adimant in her views and I just roll my eyes. She is so crunchy gronola but her info is not based on credible sources. She just proves the point that just because you are brillaint doesnt mean you have the smarts to cope with reality, or the sanity to cope with reality or the street smarts and intuition to be of working intelligence.

DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 1:17:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mystique2003 Do you value intelligence in those you own? Do you like the ability to be able to debate things such as politics, or heathcare or football with your slave? Or would you rather have them be ignorant of issues and events of the world? I believe this has been approached before but I need someone who is pretty smart and "worldly" in my personal relationships. Z-

NewMaster86 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 2:04:18 PM)
I personally think that intelligence is one of the few things that do really matter. I've not been out of college long enough to deal with more willful stupidity.

carlie310 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 6:20:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence? I would say sane is probably more important than intelligence. That's where AH & the other mass murderers fail.

MasterBlueTiger -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 8:18:59 PM)
I value intelligence as well, and don't get me started on the whole Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc. [:'(] My point is that if I run into the most caring, loyal, cheerful, and hardworking girl in the world I am not going to reject her just because she cannot recite the Pathagorean Theorum. Thats just silly. As for not using spellcheck, thats cheating and you know it[;)]. If I see I made a mistake I just try harder next time.

Leatherist -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/18/2008 11:41:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovingpet quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist quote: ORIGINAL: amayos Intelligence is always a virtue. However, knowledge of "current issues and world events" isn't necessarily a good measure of intelligence in general, or the type of intelligence that is sought. I imagine some Keepers may desire distance from these things in their servants for any number of understandable reasons, such as disassociation from outside influence. We typically like to model intelligence in the form of ability to debate, but I find one's aptness to sit at the feet of another, look up, listen and zealously absorb equally as valid. When one is trying to form a working team- with one as the servant........then the ability of the servant to fully comprehend the game plan and execute it is a sign of very high intelligence. The ability to be in compliance, in a thoughtful and useful manner is valuable in such a situation. Indeed, one does not delegate important responsibilities to a "blow up doll". Any more than one would delegate them to a fractious "debator" who was so busy arguing and being afflicted with tunnel vision.....that thier much vaunted "intelligence" became a disability to thier performance. In short, such individuals are so busy proving thier "strength", that they become incompetent to in any way equate to the word. Serving with dilligence and astounding ability does not equate to being a "doormat" in my eyes. It points to worthiness. I'd take the doormat over the asshat any day. I always hope to maintain a balance about myself. I want to use my mind with all the force it demands to be satisfied, but I do not want to ever seem to be condescending to others. The ability to collaborate and contribute in a relationship are skills that are clearly underrated (just look at soaring divorce rates and at the ever shortening lengths of other unions). I hope my posts are a help and give uesful fodder for a conversation to a thread and that this intention is always clear in my posts, or as much as a flawed individual can manage. Regards, lovingpet I despise the culture we live in. From early on, we are taught to compete, rather than to cooperate. It's no wonder that we have become destroyers of the earth, and of each other. When we learn to cherish creation and creators, and to strive to leave places better when we leave them...........rather than use them and abuse them......we can do the same with our relationships. I don't want to compete with my friend. I want to become-more.

SailingBum -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 12:59:32 AM)
Let's all sit around the campfire and sing "we are the world". BadOne

Justme696 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 1:00:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: carlie310 quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence? I would say sane is probably more important than intelligence. That's where AH & the other mass murderers fail. yes exactly..that was my point

amadeus77 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 9:02:59 AM)
That's interesting about your friend. It's probably because I'm a programmer, but I tend to think of intelligence as a couple of different things (well, actually a lot more, but I'll stay on topic.) First, there's the hardware aspect. This is something none of us have any control over. Some people's brains are just better instruments, nor will all the study in the world turn me into an Einstein. But the part that we do control, the software if you will, allows each of us, wherever we start (and whether our hardware makes it harder or easier to) to learn and to reason. I have a friend who sounds a lot like yours. He's absolutely brilliant (really good hardware) but falls for every conspiracy theory ever dreamt up (sloppy software). In my experience, taking the time to develop good mental "software", to learn to evaluate arguments (and to understand that any attempt at pursasion involves a logical argument), pays off enormously.

amadeus77 -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 9:08:16 AM)
I meant that perhaps some submissives found arrogance in Doms attractive. I didn't mean to imply that I want a woman to pretend to be stupid; I certainly would not.

MasterBlueTiger -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 10:24:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist I despise the culture we live in. From early on, we are taught to compete, rather than to cooperate. It's no wonder that we have become destroyers of the earth, and of each other. When we learn to cherish creation and creators, and to strive to leave places better when we leave them...........rather than use them and abuse them......we can do the same with our relationships. I don't want to compete with my friend. I want to become-more. I agree wholeheartedly. One of the things I often tell people is that everyone in the wotld only helped themselves than you only have one person helping you. But if everyone helped everyone elese their would be no limit to what we can accmplish.

BlackPhx -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 12:34:42 PM)
I have to agree with you Littlesui, though not all interests, etc have to be shared, contrast can be fun as well. Fortunately Master enjoys my intellectual skills, and vice versa. As for myself, if and when we find a sub to join us, we will definately be looking for someone who can contribute to household knowledge, intellectual debate and further learning. Afterall, while you can play for several hours, eventually you would like to have someone there behind the eyes to talk to. poenkitten

BlackPhx -> RE: Do you value intelligence? (2/19/2008 12:46:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 mmm intelligence at all lets stir something up.....many say intelligence is a turn on...Adolf Hitler was intelligent ( He made a whole country folow him)...many mass murderers are extremely intelligent... still attracted to intelligence? Actually more charisma and political accumen crossed with ruthless ambition/w a good dose of Intelligence. Eva Braun was very attracted to him, one could say devoted since she not only married him on April 29, 1945 but suicided with him (reportedly) on April 30, 1945 . Most of our Politicians are intelligent (not all are equally so), few who are shy on intelligence points ever rise above street sweeper or minimum wage jobs. Intelligence is neither inherently good or bad, what you do with it decides that. But it sure helps to have someone behind the eyes to talk to once the sexual play is over. poenkitten

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