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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 11:12:45 AM

joy2u

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ORIGINAL: kitttty

So others who are not me, what do you think of D/s grammar. Does it turn you on? Do you think it's ridiculous? Would you prefer using it or not using it?

What's ridiculous, to me, is how much time is spent discussing something so trivial as what sort of typing style someone chooses to express themself on this kink discussion board. It's beginning to make me wonder how many people actually have a grammar fetish.

What difference does it really make whether someone chooses to type in UP/lc or in any other style they like? To me, it's nice to see that people can be individualistic in their writing style and not have to fall in line with what is considered "correct grammar" or follow whatever the majority might like.

It's my choice to use lc when referring to myself and to use UC when referring to my Master. He has never told me how to write. He prefers to allow me to express myself in whatever way i like. But, if He were to tell me to write in a particular style, i would do as He says and it wouldn't be an issue to me.

Grammar doesn't turn me on or off. It has no effect whatsoever on my libido.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 11:34:05 AM

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I agree with you. It's retarded, and it defeats the purpose of proper capitalization and grammar: to make reading easier.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 12:12:15 PM

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I think I'd be more inclined to enjoy it if there were any set standards. But I've never seen any and it always seems completely arbitrary which nouns and pronouns they choose to "alter" and which they don't.

It's also distasteful for me because it's only used within "ds" or "bdsm" contexts- and thus makes it feel more like an affectation. As well, it presumes that people should be treated differently in social contexts based upon personal relationship orientation.

And anyone who's spent real time in the scene knows that you can't just presume someone's orientation.

BUT when it comes to someone using particular language in their particular relationship, please follow your bliss. For the most part I don't even notice the capitalization thing- it's the slashes that get frustrating and what I skip over.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 12:30:57 PM

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If your new pet isn't also your Master's new pet, I fail to see why his idiosynchrasies would carry over...if they do, then shouldn't she already be aware of this "peculiarity" and be adjusted to it...?

On a more general note: my girl and I use the caps - W/w or Ww, either/or, take yer pick of style. Note the word - style. It's a writing preference. I've never demanded it. I do not chide my girl if she fails to use it. This is the way she learned to express herself. She feels it is a form of respect and she desires to use it. As her owner, I try to see things from her perspective as often as possible; and from her viewpoint it is meaningful. It doesn't offend me, quite the opposite: she wishes to respect me in every act she commits herself to where I am involved. How could that possibly bother me?

I'm all for individual expression, so it doesn't bother me that there are those here who dislike the caps/lowercase style. If it degenerates to bashing, though, I'll wade in, for the very reason that this is yet another example of individual expression!

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 1:37:24 PM

Thorns82

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Capitalization and slash speak don't affect me nearly as much as poor spelling/grammar. Most people on here seem to be pretty good about it. I tend to skip messages from those who aren't. Makes me want to ask if they finished grade school =P

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 1:41:35 PM

Viridana

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I find this sort of writing style beyond silly and I've caught myself numerous times taking what a person using said style is writing less seriously for it...

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 3:05:50 PM

Paulsgirl

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kitttty

So,

I am one who thinks that the whole i instead of I and O/our and you vs You thing is retarded. But Master says that I write to him in lowercases except when I refer to his Cock or him (You, Your, my Owner etc). It's been this way for a long time now and I do it without complaint even though I do not prefer to deviate from proper capitalizations.

Now Master and I have this new pet and she does not write to me this way. She is a lesbian and is essentially my pet far more than she is Masters. I don't want her to write in any special caps and lowercase. Master would prefer it.

So others who are not me, what do you think of D/s grammar. Does it turn you on? Do you think it's ridiculous? Would you prefer using it or not using it?

Maybe Im weird and my pet will actually just love writing to me in lowercase letters.

Ok gotta get passed the idea that You have Your own lesbian pet......lucky you!

I love grammar. Without it all reading is
asphyxiation.........on second thoughts fuck the grammar.......

< Message edited by Paulsgirl -- 2/18/2008 3:06:27 PM >

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 3:15:40 PM

stella41b

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Some people on this site have problems understanding the English written in profiles, let alone D/s grammar or anything else.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 5:14:03 PM

xolarkinxo

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quote:

what do you think of D/s grammar. Does it turn you on? Do you think it's ridiculous? Would you prefer using it or not using it?

Tacs has threatened to enforce this type of public writing as punishment....lol...I think it's stupid.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 5:45:34 PM

sblady

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When I first started "chatting" in the chat rooms, I W/we'd and I/i'd you to D/death. Now that I have a real-time Dom, when we talk on line I can't recall ever using the lower/uppercase thing. I'm not sure He ever mentioned it either way. I will capitalize You, His, Yours, etc. and when I know I'm given a direct order, I will say "yes, Sir". I'm really glad He doesn't have a preference either way as I send quite a few e-mails during a normal workday and I cannot tell you how many times I used lowercase for myself and uppercase for the individual. Thank goodness for grammar and spell check!!!

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 5:50:18 PM

Bound2One

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To each his own, but I hate it. I'm a grammar geek and it bugs me everytime I see it.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 6:29:00 PM

MidMichCowboy

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I hate it. It makes it hard to read. I do expect good spelling and grammar. I know we all make a few mistakes, but I do judge people on their writing. I don't put a whole lot of thought into all this formal protocol and stuff (damn barbarian in me). When I converse or exchange email with a lady, I will address her as a lady. Submission, if it ever comes will be between us. I don't need to parade my Masterness (is that a word) in front of the world. I feel pretty confident in who I am. I hope I don't make those angry who like this (its a free country) but to me, it feels like play acting or a game. That is not me.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 6:37:30 PM

Dnomyar

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Thorns82 no wonder you have'nt written me back.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 7:58:48 PM

katie978

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quote:

ORIGINAL: joy2u
It's beginning to make me wonder how many people actually have a grammar fetish.

Guilty. Nothing like some big words thrown around in the heat of the moment.

Anyways, the whole d/s grammar always annoyed me. I'm an English major, and it really hurts my head to look at all that politically correct grammar shenanigans. Even seeing Dom/mes is at the limit of my range of slashy acceptance.

However, if it helps people to express how they feel about themselves or their relationships, go for it. Just keep it readable.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 8:32:05 PM

WalterRego

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This is a funny thread. It's amazing to me how people into kinky, twisted, over the edge sex and transgressive sexual roles, perfectly comfortable with leather, dress up costumes and drag can be so uptight and rigid and persnickety about "grammar". Lower case and upper case. This is like reading the annals of L'Academie francaise about French.

Take a look at Chaucer, Gower, Spencer, Donne, Shakespeare, ee cummings, Ezra Pound. Gerard Manley Hopkins. English changes; can be playfully used. Why can't we have fun with it? Loosen up!

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 10:13:39 PM

amayos

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kitttty

So,

I am one who thinks that the whole i instead of I and O/our and you vs You thing is retarded.

I tend to agree. I prefer writing that is grammatically correct. There are times when capitalization for respect is appropriate, but too much of the upper/lowercase writing style is needlessly tedious and distracting.

< Message edited by amayos -- 2/18/2008 10:19:52 PM >

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 10:18:45 PM

ownedgirlie

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I personally don't prefer it but if it was something my Master wanted then it wouldn't matter whether or not I preferred it. I would do it and not worry about it.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 10:34:05 PM

sunshinemiss

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl

Ok gotta get passed (past - you didn't really mean to have 2 main verbs there did you?) the idea that You have Your own lesbian pet......lucky you!

I love grammar. Without it all reading is
asphyxiation.........on second thoughts (thought - you want a singular noun because you are using an ordinal number) fuck the (an article is not necessary for the word "grammar") grammar.......

If you're going to complain about grammar, use correct grammar.

Thank you.

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 10:48:32 PM

shysub0951

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i tend to get annoyed by it, especially if it's excessive in every other word

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RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar - 2/18/2008 11:37:28 PM

MaamJay

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I use capitals to refer to Master and also to refer to My Domme persona, Jay. i use lowercase to refer to my sub persona, violet. I don't regard this as an affectation, it's simply a useful tool to alert the reader to the mindset I am using to address the question. Isn't that what language is all about? It is a tool to further communication. Because there is so much angst about slash speak on the boards I try to limit this to a bare minimum if used at all.

i'm with those who have commented that continuing to think that something Master requires is dumb (or worse still, retarded!) reflects a problem with obedience ... sure, there might be a passing thought of "oh this feels dumb" but i can't think of a single thing Master has asked me to continually do which i continue to view as dumb. Why would i continue to serve Him if this were the case? Perhaps kitty needs to get her own submission together before taking on a pet of her own. OOPS sorry! I forgot that this person who is so hung up on grammar and correct capitalisation etc is 'dumb' enough to have 4 t's in her name ... kitttty ... when surely 2 would suffice!

I'm also with Walter in his first explanation of how writing this way has focused his thinking away from self, and in his second statement about lighten up people! And with beth too who writes so beautifully as Yoda ;-)

Maam Jay aka violet[A] (who realises her own kitty claws probably came out a bit more than usual then and retracts them slowly so as not to shred the next post she looks at)

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