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LadyHathor -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 7:20:37 PM)

Nope, a flat screen does not a hot live boy replace.




Misstoyou -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 7:22:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Nope, a flat screen does not a hot live boy replace.



Succinct and accurate. [:D]


** edited to add: ... though I do understand how one might decide to supplement, or might not have the ability to "reach out and touch." I guess I'm just an all or nothing Domme.




BoiJen -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 8:13:02 PM)

So...I'm not a Dome..I just have an opinion....There's three things that makes s-types desirable to D-types in any situation. You have to be:

Attractive
Entertaining
Useful

Notice the useful bit. Attractiveness can be completely faked on the net. Don't trust a damned thing until you have your hands on it. And that's the honest truth about the amount of room people have to lie on the net. And that applies as much to me as anyone else. As for entertaining, well...what's so fuckin entertaining about sitting on a damned computer as opposed to putting your hands on(or in)a real person?

Online slave=jack off loser who can't fix his shit enough to do it RT.

That's all my opinion of course.




LadyPact -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 9:26:58 PM)

The online thing does nothing for Me.  The physical element is just too important to Me.




AAkasha -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 9:35:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The online thing does nothing for Me.  The physical element is just too important to Me.


I think many people here are not talking about online (for me, phone/webcam is a better description) as a replacement for real life.  It's a supplement.

I guess I am just a horny, insatiable femdom.  I get lots of real life play, but I always want more.  I also watch a lot of bdsm porn and masturbate a lot, in addition to having sex.  I'm not complaining :)

Akasha




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 10:56:41 PM)

Nope no interest. 

I cannot imagine how to do CBT, medical play, rope bondage or any of my other favorites without a body! 

But my biggest issue with online is WHY does it have to be online? 

Because the guy is MARRIED* or equivalent.   So he is sitting in his home office pretending to work while really cruising for cheap thrills talking dirty to strangers (who are often equally unavailable and faithless, BTW).  And his neglected wife and kids are in the next room watching TV.  Its just wrong.  Participating in that kind of deception does not appeal to me at all.

* yeah, yeah........ but how do I know online "slaves" are almost all married?  He might be paraplegic from the neck down and can only serve online!!.  Or living in Antarctica and cannot meet you until the icebreaker ship picks him up in 6 months time!!.  Highly unlikely, OK.  Given a choice between the real thing and typing, single men would chase the real thing.  Only married men don't want real Dommes turning up on their doorstep, whip in hand.




Venatrix -> RE: online slaves (2/18/2008 11:01:28 PM)

In response to the OP, watching paint dry would be more interesting.




LaMistressa -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 3:35:17 AM)

Add my name to the "useless" column for online slavery. As my dear mother used to say, it's as useless as tits on a boar hog.  A computer and a webcam experience doesn't get my rocks off, and it doesn't get my house clean and my toenails polished, therefore it is of no use to me. 




petpete -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 5:10:34 AM)

Truth is online is nothing different then phone sex or anything relative that has to do with jacking off theory.. Its alright to keep in contact with friends and maybe make potential relations but i would never consider an online relationship a true relationship. It is not natural and never will be natural.. Humans are made to socialize and interact by using there senses and online will never give anyone the chance to use the full effect of there senses to participate.. Wake up people!!!




sunshinemiss -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 5:22:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

So...I'm not a Dome..I just have an opinion....There's three things that makes s-types desirable to D-types in any situation. You have to be:

Attractive
Entertaining
Useful

Notice the useful bit. Attractiveness can be completely faked on the net. Don't trust a damned thing until you have your hands on it. And that's the honest truth about the amount of room people have to lie on the net. And that applies as much to me as anyone else. As for entertaining, well...what's so fuckin entertaining about sitting on a damned computer as opposed to putting your hands on(or in)a real person?

Online slave=jack off loser who can't fix his shit enough to do it RT.

That's all my opinion of course.


Well, I'm an online slave and not a jack off loser ... my shit is together and I do it RT whenever possible... Here's a link to a similar thread... and my answer as to why... It'd be nice if you didn't call people names... Even Thumper from Bambi knows not to do that.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1562989/mpage_7/key_dirt/tm.htm#1567793




thetammyjo -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 6:21:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The online thing does nothing for Me. The physical element is just too important to Me.


I think many people here are not talking about online (for me, phone/webcam is a better description) as a replacement for real life. It's a supplement.

I guess I am just a horny, insatiable femdom. I get lots of real life play, but I always want more. I also watch a lot of bdsm porn and masturbate a lot, in addition to having sex. I'm not complaining :)

Akasha



For me, until someone really gets to know me, it is very unlikely he/she could type out things online that would turn me to make it worth my time and attention online. Getting to know me that well require time, face-to-face time.




servantnj -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 7:14:07 AM)

Problem with online slavery is that we, boys are primary visual creatures, and whatever happened online is basically product of our imagination, twisted from words typed from other side of the wire. So no it is not possible, it is great mind trip, your little fantasy but there is no slavery, no real person interaction.

And secondly, what is the point of online relationship? Internet is communication and information word, great tool when person you want to talk to is unavailable. For me phone is bad, but helps from time to time,online is just painful.





BoiJen -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 7:19:08 AM)

Oh you asked for it...

You have a choice. We all do. To live our truths. You have a choice to stay exactly where you're at or to take some risks and pick up and go. It's not easy. Trust me...I know...I did it a young age when in the US it's not even legal to support myself, and then again as an adult. I completely picked up and left because it was not me I was making happy.

You have that choice as does anyone and every one else. So are you a loser for doing the online thing? No...you're a loser for choosing to live less than who you are.

Married men and women have this choice too. If not by location by circumstance, people become content enough. They are not statisfied or happy...just enough of the little boxes on the hillside of what they're supposed to want. so here you have a choice...

Life's full of choices...

So grow up and choose...don't bitch because someone told you the truth about the situation.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 7:43:13 AM)

Even if I am doing something via computer with someone I know, and getting turned on.........it's ME and my own imagination that are getting me hot, just as his imagination is doing the same for him.  Is it fun?  Sure.  I enjoy masturbating, and I love the mindfuck, so there's amusement potential.  In the long run, it's just frustrating unless the online stuff is going to lead to realtime activity.

And BoiJen?  You GO girl! 




BoiJen -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 7:58:59 AM)

LadyH...that's online messing around though...it's not online "service"...hell MsK often goes to work and gets dirty emails that result in me getting text messages asked to stop so that She can concentrate...the difference...when She gets home my greedy grubby little hands are making gimme motions to get Her coat and boots off while I add any kinda suggestive look or touch that I can.

Let's be honest...none of that's about service...it's about the fact that at 22 my libido is out of control and women peak in their mid to late 30's if not later in the sexual sense....I'm SO taking advantage of that!

Service...now service is the fact that my list today consists of detailing the bathrooms and kitchen and I have cat litter and laundry to finish. THAT's serving...masturbating on the other end of a keyboard is NOT service. Therefore....online...is self fucking...which can be fun but has little or nothing to do with being submissive or service oriented in ANY way....

And really...what's the use in that if there's a warm body around to make the pillow queens of the world happy?

Anyways...MsK and I talked about this in detail last night....we all have options...and we all have a prime...a truth...a goal...a dream way to live and there's NO reason in the whole wide world as to why we can't have that.

"But, boijen, I'm married/partnere/otherwise attached." Well...tell your partner you need x,y,and z. "I already have,boijen. He/She/It won't go for it." Well tell them you're gonna go do x,y, and z and negotiate how that works to both your satisfactions. The worst that's gonna happen is that you're going to get what you want and stop being miserably attached to someone who can't/won't give you what you want. The other thing that could happen is that you negotiate something that works for the both of you and you stay together.

NObody is trapped in this great big world we have. So why bullshit about it and pretend that you are?




LadyPact -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 11:19:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The online thing does nothing for Me.  The physical element is just too important to Me.


I think many people here are not talking about online (for me, phone/webcam is a better description) as a replacement for real life.  It's a supplement.

I guess I am just a horny, insatiable femdom.  I get lots of real life play, but I always want more.  I also watch a lot of bdsm porn and masturbate a lot, in addition to having sex.  I'm not complaining :)

Akasha



I could agree with the wider definition of online (cam, phone, etc.) but at that point, I have to expand My definition of physical.

I want to see his body shake when he's been ordered to kneel and not move until he's far past comfort.  I want to smell the sweat as his body reacts to the pain being induced.  I want there to be a solid form at the end of the tail when I flick it.  I want to hear that snap and the moan that follows.  I want to reach out and touch him when he quivers, not knowing if that first sensation is a gentle touch, or a vicious strike.  I want his submission, his acceptance of pain, his bow to My whim. 

When it's over, I want to curl him in My lap, hold him, and stroke his hair.  I want to pull him to Me and whisper into his ear how proud I am of him and that I have no doubt of his devotion to Me.  I want to tell him about any of the marks I put on his body, and how beautiful they are to Me in My eyes.  I want to feel his breath where I have chosen to rest his head.  I want every sensation through each of My five (and sixth) senses.

I can not, nor do a I doubt I ever will, get that from a computer.




ItalianSMistress -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 11:38:55 AM)

I play around online from time to time.  The funny thing is I kinda did it backwards tho, and played only rt for about ten years, and only started playing around online the last few.  I dont do it all the time, and the subs I play with work long and hard to grab My attention for a good while before I will be interested in them enough to play.  But I look at it as personalized porn, basicly.  Like a male, I am very very visual, so I think a camtoy is fun from time to time to get Me hot.  Before My wife and I split up, she would watch Me play with someone, and then when I was done, and good and turned on, I would take her in the bedroom,,,,,,,
 
So, bottom line is, I do it from time to time if I feel like it.  It does not replace any real time contact, I still will always keep locals, but it gives something interesting and fun to do when you want that.




sunshinemiss -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 1:06:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Oh you asked for it...

You have a choice. We all do. To live our truths. You have a choice to stay exactly where you're at or to take some risks and pick up and go. It's not easy. Trust me...I know...I did it a young age when in the US it's not even legal to support myself, and then again as an adult. I completely picked up and left because it was not me I was making happy.

You have that choice as does anyone and every one else. So are you a loser for doing the online thing? No...you're a loser for choosing to live less than who you are.

Married men and women have this choice too. If not by location by circumstance, people become content enough. They are not statisfied or happy...just enough of the little boxes on the hillside of what they're supposed to want. so here you have a choice...

Life's full of choices...

So grow up and choose...don't bitch because someone told you the truth about the situation.


Oh my god... are you kidding?  LOL... You made my day... Thanks for giving me such a good laugh. 




BoiJen -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 1:17:51 PM)

Yeah that's it....I'm kidding about how much control we really have over lives and what our situations reflect about our choices and what our choices relfect about us...after all...

If one chooses to put themselves in/or choose to stay in a situation where the "only outlet they have" is to go pretend to be an s-type in a chatroom....well...obviously this BDSM thing isn't as important to them as they pretend it is now is it?...lol...or they're so affraid that that reality won't live up to their fantasies that they can't drag themselves into another position in life.

Again...all my very own opinion...I would say original but I have a feeling I'm not the first and only one who feels this way about this topic.




sunshinemiss -> RE: online slaves (2/19/2008 3:30:25 PM)

I looked at your profile... Perhaps one day you will learn not to judge things before you know all the facts... and perhaps, just perhaps you will learn about compassion.  I hope that it will be an easy lesson, but usually it isn't.  Good luck.

peace.

edited to add:  I'm not coming back to this thread to see what you say because life is not black and white and I prefer to interact with people who know the complexities of life... and all the colors of the rainbow.  But I truly wish you well.




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