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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 4:08:00 PM

DesFIP

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I'd have discussed it prior to entering into a relationship.

However, if he suddenly said he was changing the rules, then I would withdraw consent and we would start all over again, if at all.

If he demanded either I do that or I walk, then of course I would walk. This is not something that would be healthy for me, and being forced to do that would make me distrust him. Since I don't play or have sex, or any other type of relationship with people I distrust, I would end the relationship afterwards, after all the mental damage had been done. Since the relationship would be over either way, obviously it would be better to end it unharmed.

But as I said, we discussed this ahead of time so for him to demand this would mean he was a liar, someone I could no longer trust. and therefore the relationship as it was would have effectively ended the moment he revealed himself to be more interested in getting his rocks off, than in my safety or the well being (indeed the very existance) of the relationship.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 4:14:51 PM

TysGalilah

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

this will be an adjunct to my prior Characteristics of being "Property"

there were many interesting posts that shared real content aside from the jocular one liners that always show up.
I expect only those that "feel it" will contribute to this thread; but now that being said consider this!

you consider yourself the property of your Master. Now Master wanting to show off his control of his sub/slave wants to share you with his friends while he iattends as a safeguard.

Question 1 Would you agree?

Question 2 if not why not?

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

CP

I feel his pride. I feel his ownership and an ultimate trust that he has in me. For me it is something I can give him, that I know no one else in his life will or would.

It is an emotional pleasure/pain much like the physical pleasure/pain of an implement or strike.
It's very difficult emotionally but I do it with strength and pride in who I am to him. I feel his control, I feel his desire...I am safe and I become stronger for having experienced it with him.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 4:56:29 PM

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so long as I am not repulsed

lips,

and if you were repulsed??

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 4:58:30 PM

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quote:

him watch that was kind or erotic.

Omega,

The mthread is young yet, but I suspect that will be the theme in many replies.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 5:19:43 PM

daddysprop247

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my thoughts on this topic are pretty much in line with beth's and IrishMist's...as a slave it wouldn't be my place to "agree" or disagree on anything my Master desired, if he says he's going to do something, he does it, and that's that. He does not ask my permission or allow my feelings on a particular matter to change his will.

now of course, my Master has shared me with others many times before, it is a regular and common part of our lives. if i had to try and guess the number of different men he has shared me with, i'd have to say somewhere in the low 100s. if i had to guess the actual number of times, that would just be impossible. so clearly, it's something i accepted and became accustomed to long ago. He does it for many reasons....lust and perversion, pride (showing off the property and his training of such), amusement, sadism, degradation, fun, etc. the emotions having to serve others in this way vary greatly, as others have mentioned....from despair and depression to arousal to boredom and everything in between.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 6:39:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Question 1 Would you agree?

It's not for me to agree or disagree with, but I would be happy to do it.

quote:

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

Thrilled to have pleased him. Feeding his perversions, lusts, amusements, joy...all of it, is a high for me.

Plus, it's hot. I love being his possession to use as he wants. I love when he uses me as a toy/object like that.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 6:41:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

you consider yourself the property of your Master. Now Master wanting to show off his control of his sub/slave wants to share you with his friends while he attends as a safeguard.

my Master shares me with Dominant females and a male who shares his female slave with my Master.

quote:

Question 1 Would you agree?

It's not a matter of my agreeing. It's simply a matter of doing what my Master tells me to do. Long before i agreed to become His property, He told me that i would be loaned out to Dommes, especially sadistic ones who would use me, according to His limits.

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Question 2 if not why not?

N/A

quote:

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

i feel good that i am doing what i'm supposed to do. Every D/s relationship i have been in, including way back when i was married to my first Dominant, i have been required to participate in 3-somes and 4-somes and be with other females, so, being shared isn't anything new to me.

joy
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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 7:35:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

It's not for me to agree or disagree with, but I would be happy to do it.

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question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

Thrilled to have pleased him. Feeding his perversions, lusts, amusements, joy...all of it, is a high for me. Plus, it's hot. I love being his possession to use as he wants. I love when he uses me as a toy/object like that.

Sometimes I wonder if we're the same person in alternate mundane realities ...........

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 7:47:49 PM

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 8:20:59 PM

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My Master has told me many times that I am precious to Him, that I am beautiful and that He likes to show off His beautiful property. He has His own ways of showing His pride in owning me. But He does not share me with anyone, and I am quite happy with that. He made it clear that He is the only one I would be having sex with, and He also stated that He doesn't want anyone to hurt me, unless it's Him.

Would I do it if He required it? Yes. How would I feel? I dunno as there are too many factors that could affect how I would feel.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 8:49:32 PM

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If my Owner wanted me to... I wouldn't. Not because I don't trust her, but because she would have betrayed my trust by putting me in such a situation. It's an agreement and an understanding that we have. We're monogomous to one another. This is a simple fact.

DV's Fox

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 9:08:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

this will be an adjunct to my prior Characteristics of being "Property"

there were many interesting posts that shared real content aside from the jocular one liners that always show up.
I expect only those that "feel it" will contribute to this thread; but now that being said consider this!

you consider yourself the property of your Master. Now Master wanting to show off his control of his sub/slave wants to share you with his friends while he iattends as a safeguard.

Question 1 Would you agree?

Question 2 if not why not?

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

CP

Since such would be a hard limit for me, it will never enter the equation..This limit would be known at the onset of negotiations..But I wonder what specifics you mean when you say share?..play, non-insertible toys only?..sexually?...a little too vague on what "share" means to you...Tempting

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 9:19:27 PM

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Question 1 Would you agree?
No, it was a limit that was agreed to at the beginning of the relationship.

Question 2 if not why not?
Same as first answer.

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?
I would feel stupid that i'd let myself get into a situation that was so against what i want. I'd feel stupid that i'd allowed myself to be collared to a man who didn't respect the limits we'd agreed to. Feeling doubly stupid, my self esteem would most likely plummet into the basement. Did i mention that this is a hard limit?

I just read Tempting's reply which made me rethink my answer. I've been used as a stunt dummie when Sir is teaching a newbie how to use a flogger, so i guess that is use in some way. However, i do feel that CP most likely meant this as sexual sharing more than the stunt dummie type of sharing.

< Message edited by peppermint -- 2/20/2008 9:23:49 PM >

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 9:47:16 PM

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Sharing, as one other poster finally pointed out, is too vague a word. Does it mean sex or play? Master sort of shares me sexually when I have a sub of My own ... but that's something negotiated and He is comfortable with. He still retains control over whether or not I am allowed to orgasm during sex with My sub, and whether or not penetration is allowed to occur. As a sub i don't foresee any possibility of Him sharing me sexually with another Dominant male, although it's not something W/we have specifically discussed. It WOULD be discussed before it happened, even if the opportunity arose spontaneously, He would take me aside and make sure i was totally ok with it and that He was too!

In terms of bdsm play, IF Master personally knew the Dominant, AND was there in person AND the Dominant was instructing Master in a particular technique that He wanted to learn ... THEN, as long as it was within my agreed limits, it would happen. And i wouldn't have any problem with that (except perhaps keeping the Jay side of me under wraps because She'd be wanting to learn how to do it too!). Outside of that, i can't see Master lending me out, if He wants to show me off He would do so by playing with me Himself ... because He knows me so well, and i trust Him so much, i can take more and go deeper with Him than i would with anyone else. More than a few people have oohed and aahhed and oowwed their way through watching Him give me a really good spanking at a spankee party LOL! But i wouldn't be able to take so much from someone else.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 10:11:39 PM

CelticPrince

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This should have been agreed upon before/when the submissive BECAME submissive to that dominant. The sub should already know that this is a possibility and be ok with it before agreeing to it.

LA

It is true about prior discussion but the real aspects of most beginning relationships, especially by those that are new to the path and jump in after a month and take a "Master", it just never occurs to them.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 10:14:56 PM

CelticPrince

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</image/blank.gif> as a Dom:

yes there is definitly something to be said about showing off your property... but its not just about the kudos to your Twue Dom ego. at least for myself its about the Pride I have in my submissive. the pride I have seeing her get through a scene because of her strength, abillities, ect.

its also about learning. the more experience you have the better for the both of us. watching my sub scene with others helps me gain that outside perspective that I don't get when I am involved in the scene. Also seeing how my sub reacts to different things that I wouldn't normally do (or haven't done yet)

then of course there is the lazy factor:
sometimes i just want to sit and relax and watch someone have fun with my woman. perhaps while i'm having a wonderful conversation.

then lastly there is the Joy in other peoples joy:
If I was going to let me sub play with someone else...it would be because I trust them. If i trust them, then I most likely Like them as a person. if thats the case then I just get real joy from watching two people I care about have fun.

The aboslute only thing it is NOT:
it is not a way of Bragging by saying"hey look i'm such a Twue Dom I can make my property play with whomever I want them to"

Skully,

I do agree with all your points but you forgot one / the pleasure that your "s" gets.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/20/2008 10:16:48 PM

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as Master's property, this slave has no right of refusal, so agreeing or not would be a moot point.

beth,

A point well made but not shared by all slaves methinks.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:48:45 AM

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That would be ho

c

Well sent me his email addy and I will send him a prompt.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:57:13 AM

CelticPrince

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That's not something I can answer without things being more specific. If we talked it over, looked at it from all angles, we moved at a pace I was comfortable with and it was a person I was comfortable with, I imagine I'd be happy - I pleased my owner and got laid in the process. If he forced me into the situation too quickly and with a situation I'm not comfortable with (ie. he calls me on his way home from work to announce that he's bringing a co-worker home and he expects me to fulfill their every fantasy)... well... we'd have problems and I would feel very betrayed.

Aquatic,

Thanks for your input, but does your position indicate less dedication to the word of Master.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:02:46 AM

CelticPrince

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He told me He would not allow any other male to touch me ever, and I breathed a sigh of relief that this is not and would not be a possibility.

kimba,

Sometimes attitudes and ideas change, both the "s" and the "D" but in any case I share His view.

CP

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