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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 8:25:51 AM   
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Even though I know it is a mute point in my relationship, I will answer anyway.

I would do it in a heartbeat.  I would know he if ever agreed to it, it would be something that would be making him proud, or giving him pleasure in some way.

I think it would have a wide range of emotions for me..some good and some maybe not so good.  Sometimes the reality is far from the fantasy, so I can't really say with confidence it would turn out to be a good experience for me at all.  (though I think it would )

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 9:27:13 AM   
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when we began, we agreed, no others would touch me. that was a year ago and now he wants to play with others! it makes me feel sick and i dont get it.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 10:40:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mrscolden

when we began, we agreed, no others would touch me. that was a year ago and now he wants to play with others! it makes me feel sick and i dont get it.


Couple of possibilities:

1.  He told you what you wanted to hear.
2.  He changed his mind (a valid occurrence, but you have the right to change your mind about staying).
3.  He told you the truth at the time and you didn't hear it.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 10:43:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: mrscolden

when we began, we agreed, no others would touch me. that was a year ago and now he wants to play with others! it makes me feel sick and i dont get it.


Couple of possibilities:

1.  He told you what you wanted to hear.
2.  He changed his mind (a valid occurrence, but you have the right to change your mind about staying).
3.  He told you the truth at the time and you didn't hear it.

Cali



4.  He has upheld his promise that no others would touch you but he did not promise that he would not touch others.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 10:58:53 AM   
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I thought the same thing OG.  I see miscommunication there I guess.
 
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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 11:03:14 AM   
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LOL.  When she said "he wants to play with others"... I interpreted that (rightly or wrongly) to mean "he wants others to come play with us." But if it really means that HE wants to play with others, and not have others play with her, then he told the truth way back when, she just didn't understand it.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 11:05:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Mist,

I think you read the post wrong, I do not imply that he would ask permission or ask how you felt about it.

CP


NO CP, I did not read the post wrong.

You said

you consider yourself the property of your Master. Now Master wanting to show off his control of his sub/slave wants to share you with his friends while he iattends as a safeguard.
Question 1 Would you agree?
question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

My answer was right in line with what you asked.

My agreeing would never happen because…..HE NEVER WOULD HAVE ASKED ME IF IT WAS OK OR NOT.

My feelings would not matter either because he did not care how I felt about things such as this. He did what he wanted, when he wanted, how he wanted…my feelings about it did not enter into the decision making.





Your master isn't asking you how you would feel - the OP is. He wants to know how you would feel about it.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 12:27:39 PM   
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#1 Would I agree?


It depends on the type of "sharing".

Sexual sharing, absolutely not. "I am not to be shared" was one of the first things I ever told Him regarding limits.

As a "demo" body in a form of impact play (or other non sexual stuff like bondage) then yes. Only if He was there, and probably only if He held my hand, but yes. Even naked would be a yes.

Non-sexual - He has talked about wanting to see me top other girls, and I'm fine with that. Having sexual contact, or having them top me is a hard limit.

We've talked about me "serving" (as in drinks and food) at parties, but in a way that could be considered vanilla. Basically as a very attentive and old fashioned hostess (which feels perfectly comfortable to me anyway). So yes there as well.

In discussion about exhibitionism, I do not mind still pictures (no face to identify me) being shared (for example sent to another Dom He knows that sends pictures of his sub/wife to Him).

Live video is another story. Even without the identity factor (masks and all that), I have trouble with it, so no.



#2 If not, why not?


I am bi, and have had very nice experiences that involved more than one person. Even had a (non D/s) friends with benefits relationship that included the friend's girl; it lasted a little under a year, and I did not have a problem with the aspect of being with more than one person. However, I didn't love either one of them in more than a good friend kind of way.

See, when I go from "hard like" to "love, puppies and dreams of forever", my monogamy switch gets flipped. I know that this does not happen for everyone. It does for me, and so what would have been ok in a casual relationship becomes horrifying to contemplate. 

The reason I would say no, both to the sexual sharing and to the live video, is that I cannot bear to feel that connection with another person. The intimacy, however fleeting and shallow, that comes from being intimate with someone would feel invasive and violating. 


#3 How would I feel?

Well, as it is not something I would do, I can't tell you how I would feel, but I can imagine.

He and I talked, in depth, about the exhibitionism on video thing. Nameless, faceless, but live. Because I want/need to make Him happy I was, despite my feelings on the subject, willing to try. I told Him that it might be too much. I then told Him how it made me feel, how it changed how I thought of myself and how horrified the entire idea made me.  

He said "This is a hard limit for you, and we won't be doing it". He didn't want to do anything that would permanently impact me in a negative way, and I think that really might have.

All that said, I know that a lot of people don't feel this way. I don't see a thing wrong with sharing, if both people are ok with it. Quite often I have looked at my cousin (who is a self confessed slut) and thought "Huh, it must be nice to get your needs met that easily". It just doesn't work for me. I have to know, and like, my partners. If I do fall in love, then all others are out of the picture until that relationship is over. Makes getting laid a lot more difficult, and sometimes it sucks, but I just do not work the other way.

I do not insist on monogamy from my relationship partners, because I know that not everyone is wired that way. I am, so "I" am monogamous, not necessarily my partner.


Edited to add - He does call me His property, but for us that does not remove my ability to say no to certain things. I am sort of a puppy/sub/object in our relationship. To Him, just like owning a dog, there are things that the dog simply won't tolerate. No less an owned thing, to be trained and corrected to the owner's liking, but I am not expected to allow everything.

He watches too much Dog Whisperer. "Is the puppy a bad dog because it forgets and jumps on the couch, or it the person a bad owner because they don't correct the puppy every time?" is how He described His view of our interactions.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 1:41:06 PM   
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ok, i made a semantic error - he wants US to play with others, not him without me.
i am happy that he is so proud of me and have submitted to being displayed and used by him in front of others.
he (as many men) is hot to see me have sexual relations with another woman. i find this idea easier to accept that him wanting to see me with another man (unsure why) but knowing myself and my emotional needs, i fear the consequences of me being "shared".

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 2:31:51 PM   
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It would depend on the sharing.

I've been shared for bdsm non sexual play, also as a 'test' dummy. That I can handle.

The thought of having sex with someone I don't love, or serving someone sexually who I don't love, turns my stomach and I know from experience triggers violent responses from me as my mind goes into 'he's raping me' and it's really not a good head space.

Would I attempt to go through it for him, yes.

Would the results be nasty - odds table says not only nasty but potentially violent and destructive.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 3:23:59 PM   
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LOL .... I'm kind of shocked this is such a big issue.... I just dont get it.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:46:48 PM   
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But as I said, we discussed this ahead of time so for him to demand this would mean he was a liar, someone I could no longer trust. and therefore the relationship as it was would have effectively ended the moment he revealed himself to be more interested in getting his rocks off, than in my safety or the well being (indeed the very existance) of the relationship.


Des,

The problem is that so few ever contemplate it unless the Dom states it in advance prior to a Collar.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:49:59 PM   
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I feel his pride. I feel his ownership and an ultimate trust that he has in me. For me it is something I can give him, that I know no one else in his life will or would.


Galilah,

Well stated position, thanks for your input.

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:53:20 PM   
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he has shared me with, i'd have to say somewhere in the low 100s.


daddysprop,

I certainly will respect that level of experience.Many thanks for sharing

CP

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 5:59:37 PM   
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Thrilled to have pleased him. Feeding his perversions, lusts, amusements, joy...all of it, is a high for me.

Plus, it's hot. I love being his possession to use as he wants. I love when he uses me as a toy/object like that.


girlie,

Damn I do love your attitude.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:01:35 PM   
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this will be an adjunct to my prior Characteristics of being "Property"

there were many interesting posts that shared real content aside from the jocular one liners that always show up.
I expect only those that "feel it" will contribute to this thread; but now that being said consider this!

you consider yourself the property of your Master. Now Master wanting to show off his control of his sub/slave wants to share you with his friends while he iattends as a safeguard.

Question 1 Would you agree?

Question 2 if not why not?

question 3 regardless of if you did or not, how would you feel?

CP


I think you have left out a vital issue....
If this IS done, no matter the how or feelings of the submissive..............the why?
 
Sir's property, inini 
 
PS, am too tired to read all the pages of reply... looked at the topic cause of your other  question on property CP 



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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:02:28 PM   
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i feel good that i am doing what i'm supposed to do. Every D/s relationship i have been in, including way back when i was married to my first Dominant, i have been required to participate in 3-somes and 4-somes and be with other females, so, being shared isn't anything new to me.

joy


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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:06:19 PM   
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Would I do it if He required it? Yes.


NA

Seems like the best of everything, you prefer not and are not required but if you were, then you would. Sounds great all around.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:08:22 PM   
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We're monogomous to one another. This is a simple fact.


Shawn,

Well lad, you do have some company wi8th that position. Thanks for the input.

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RE: Property = sharing?? - 2/21/2008 6:11:05 PM   
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Since such would be a hard limit for me, it will never enter the equation..This limit would be known at the onset of negotiations..But I wonder what specifics you mean when you say share?..play, non-insertible toys only?..sexually?...a little too vague on what "share" means to you...Tempting


tempting,

Well methinks that all other replies seems to hone ri8ght in with the context of the questions; thus I refer you to the bulk of replies.

Grins

CP

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