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MrRodgers -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 2:41:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

country life was harsh.  stunning in beauty, but harsh.
 
a rifle, loaded, behind the front door---because the friendly deputy informed us that we needed to be able to take care of whatever predator came our way, human or otherwise, becuase the authorirites wouldn't be able to get out to us fast enough.
 
there were always chores to be done, always.
 
there was always something laying about dead in some state of decomposition.
 
adobe mud stains, forever.
 
bear and mountain lion stalking the livestock and the wee ones.
 
city folk dropping their bags of trash, old appliances and unwanted pets at your gate.
 
30 in the winter, 120 in the summer.
 
poison oak sending your friends from town to the hospital.
 
the small-minded, ultra-conservative, fundamentalist Christian inhabitants that neighbor your acreage sometimes riding over on their horses, drunk as hell, threatening to shoot you.
 
the local social club is full of shit-kicking, tobacco chewing, wrangler-wearing, simple folk determined never to expand their minds beyond their own gate.
 
just a few thoughts about country living, from one who did 20 years of it, and hopes only to visit it, if at all, in the future.


I agree but I could turn all of these around the other way just as easily.

City life is harsh, some beauty but mostly ugly and harsh.

A shotgun, 2 pistols behind the front and back doors with plenty of rounds to feed them because we never see any police get out of their car and the neighborhood advises us on self-defense.

There is always chores to be done. Fixing broken windows, re-attaching the bars over them on both second and 3rd floor now.

Always some person wounded, dead...lying around in some stage of decomposition.

Mud and filthy slush stains forever.

Gangs often hyped on cocaine, stalking the adults and the wee ones.

Country folk always dropping their trash, old appliances and roadkill at our curb.

30 or lower in the winter and 100 or more in the summer...in the filthy, smoky, dungy city.

Stray bullets always sending your friends and neighbors to the hospital.

Small minded, ultra-violent, car-jacking joy riders always driving by hyped on drugs...ready to shoot anybody.

Local social clubs full of drug dealers and people-kicking, drug hyped gang members or wannabe's. Just simple-minded folk determined to never expand their minds beyond the next hi, the next kill or the next women to gang bang.

Just a few thoughts about city living from an old motorhead born and raised in Detroit. Sorry sambamanslilgirl but for me, Detroit is simply one of the greatest cities now...to be from.






StormsSlave -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 3:39:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

Certainly one of the challenges I face in my quest is finding someone who lives in the country, or someone who wishes to live in the country.

For some reason there seems to be very few of either, compared to those who are living, or wish to live in the city.

I should like to better understand why so few urban submissives/slaves are willing to make that transition.


Waves hand frantically in air:  Pick me, pick me. 

I miss country life.  I miss the quiet, and the privacy, and the cool evenings, and the quiet walks.  I miss country life.  Small town life has advantages, but it's not country living.



Aileen1968 -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 3:45:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

Certainly one of the challenges I face in my quest is finding someone who lives in the country, or someone who wishes to live in the country.

For some reason there seems to be very few of either, compared to those who are living, or wish to live in the city.

I should like to better understand why so few urban submissives/slaves are willing to make that transition.


Under the same premise...why not be open to moving to a city?



Sinergy -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 4:21:00 PM)

I lived for many years bordering the Sierras near Yosemite. I found that life to be very carefree, not very harsh at all. I am a mountain girl, and I suppose I will always be so. I get annoyed at my Daddy when he makes jokes about my being from"Cow Town", because I am not from farm country. Actually I am from somewhere far more remote and rural. I would love to move back to the mountains one day, or at least have a second home there, but my future is in the city. Most people cannot "transition" from having no income and what they do for a living does not translate into rural living. This might well be why you have trouble finding someone to suit you, it is hard to move to a place and count on someone you are just beginning to build a relationship with...most people just won't do that, and most people want at least some economic opportiunities they can exploit just in case a relationship goes south. I can tell you as someone that lived most of her life in a small town, money making opportunities chase most people out of small towns.... my vocation chased me out of mine.

edited to add... this is juliaoceania posting on my Daddy's name by accident[:D]



Aileen1968 -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 4:25:43 PM)

Laughing at "Sinergy" referring to himself as a girl.



krista -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 5:00:28 PM)

Greetings..

i have lived in the same small town...all of my life..95% of it..on the same street..Growing up in had about 4000 residents..It has grown in size..but still has a very rural feel to it..as there is a lot of farm land in the area as well..

Growing up..i hated it..nothing to do..boring...but as i aged..i grew to appreciate it's attributes..i can go to toronto...in a few hours..i can be in detroit in 40 minutes..i can attend bdsm events..easily in either country...another plus in  my book..

i went to a funeral today...and realized that i knew 4 generations of one family...and most of the people that were there..as many like myself are lifelong residents...It made me stop and appreciate the roots i have here..

i would love to be more in the country...but the prices for land in this area are just too expensive for me ..so i guess i will never have that experience...Maybe in my next life..:)

a really small town girl
krista
joy through service



SingleRarity -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 5:10:58 PM)

Being a military brat, I've lived all over, and find enjoyment in both settings.  Overall, I do find larger cities have more to offer in terms of culture.  I like all different kinds of people with new and exciting views, and in my experiences, I've never found that in a small town.  Maybe if I'd shared the traditional beliefs one often finds in a small southern baptist town, I would have been happier with country life.

Daddy's ballerina "e"



Leatherist -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 5:16:42 PM)

In the long run, I think I'd like remoteness. No small towns, no townie tudes.  I just need basic utilites to run what I need, and I can set up on ground useless for pretty much anything else-including supporting a lot of pesky wildlife. It's the beauty of running a net business-you can do it anyhwere you can connect.



Loveisallyouneed -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 5:49:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StormsSlave

Waves hand frantically in air:  Pick me, pick me. 

I miss country life.  I miss the quiet, and the privacy, and the cool evenings, and the quiet walks.  I miss country life.  Small town life has advantages, but it's not country living.


[:)]



Loveisallyouneed -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 5:54:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Under the same premise...why not be open to moving to a city?


I have a family of nine border collie/lab/blue heeler dogs. The eldest is 12 and the youngest will be 6 years this april. There is no way I'd drag them into the city as they'd be deemed nuisances for barking (or the group howl at night for sure).

They and two of my four cats are the last of my family. Were I to try and give them up they'd be split after six+ years together, and if I turned them over to the pound at least some of them would be put down for lack of adopters.

On top of that, I lived in the city most of my life. While Toronto isn't like Detroit, the fact is it is becoming more dangerous and less appealing as time goes on.

Living in the country is healthier, cleaner, and more conducive to the person I wish to be.



AquaticSub -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 6:15:50 PM)

Depending the city, it would be quite possible to keep those dogs. This thread seems be metropolis vs. bum-fuck-nowhere. The places I have spent most of my life, it was quite possible to have a house with enough yard for many dogs, even horses, and yet be 20-30 minutes from the city (15 if you drove fast) and 45 minutes to 3 hours away from a metropolis, depending on traffic.



stella41b -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 8:20:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Depending the city, it would be quite possible to keep those dogs. This thread seems be metropolis vs. bum-fuck-nowhere. The places I have spent most of my life, it was quite possible to have a house with enough yard for many dogs, even horses, and yet be 20-30 minutes from the city (15 if you drove fast) and 45 minutes to 3 hours away from a metropolis, depending on traffic.


I echo this. For quite a while I lived in the district of Praga on the eastern bank of the Vistula in central Warsaw. The whole eastern bank of this river through Warsaw is a wild, unkempt nature reserve. I lived near a bridge, up the steps and a 10 minutes walk and I was right in the centre of Warsaw.

I have a similar situation here in London. I am less than 5 minutes walk away from the River Thames close to Central London, where I can walk to in 20 minutes. It's noisier because I live surrounded by railways, a dogs home, and directly underneath the intercontinental flight path into London Heathrow. There is also almost as much wildlife and fauna as you find in the country.

You just need to look.



Loveisallyouneed -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 8:43:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Depending the city, it would be quite possible to keep those dogs. This thread seems be metropolis vs. bum-fuck-nowhere. The places I have spent most of my life, it was quite possible to have a house with enough yard for many dogs, even horses, and yet be 20-30 minutes from the city (15 if you drove fast) and 45 minutes to 3 hours away from a metropolis, depending on traffic.


Actually, according ot the topographical maps, I'm about 10 miles into the edge of the forest that stretches from here to Hudson Bay and the tundra. South of that is all open farm country with extremely small plots of forests aside from what grows along the fenced edges.

Good for horses and dogs, perhaps, but not for me.

The forest is also good for the dogs, not so good for horses with all the low lying cedar branches.

But it is like a womb, and the little clearing upon which stands my home is nestled within that womb.

There really is something magical about living in such a vast forest.
[:)]



Loveisallyouneed -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 8:52:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stella41b

There is also almost as much wildlife and fauna as you find in the country.

You just need to look.


With respect, I've seen black bear, beaver, rabbit and fox, white-tailed deer aplenty and once had the dubious privilege of driving behind a herd of cattle on the lam, complete with bull.

I've seen over fifty species of birds and have yet to catalogue the insects.

I have red squirrels and have seen one flying squirrel, various small rodentia and small bats.

Blue-spotted salamanders, a beautiful tiny green grass snake as well as your usual garters.

Toads and frogs by the score and two species of turtles if you don't count the snappers laying eggs at the side of the road.

Our largest bird is the turkey vulture, massive. We also have wild turkeys and grouse that routinely cross the road.

At night the howling of the coyotes compete with the howling of my pack.

I've been in London and I'd find it hard to imagine bumping into anything like what I've seen here.



Leatherist -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 9:05:57 PM)

I live a bit out in the country too.. Pass through a wooded watershed every day I work.

I've seen hawks and eagels out here, and the usual possums and racoons and the like. Some guy got mauled by a bear ten miles from here last year-was out with loose dogs that pissed off the bear, then lead it back to him. (He should have obeyed the leash laws I guess) Fortunately, I don't like dogs.

Not a big fan of cats either, but the local coyotes seem to keep the cat hordes that the crazy lady down the row keeps in check. I guess I like coyotes. [:D]



SimplyMichael -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 10:11:57 PM)

I love the country and the city and not much in between.

Living in the country is wonderful, having to live off of it isn't.  Most people can't get used to killing cats and dogs (those city people love dropping them off) and having to raise and butcher animals.  As kids we knew we were good when the heart was still beating in your hand when you butchered a rabbit and we used to laugh at the chickens flying around without their head.

Cruel?  Less so than that plastic wrapped meat  you bought down at the market, trust me!

Waking up to see a trail of white turkey feathers going up the hillside where the coyotes had hauled one up the hill or the bloody mess something made in the hen house.

If you do something on the net and don't have to mess with the above it can be a lot like a vacation.  However, it is a place without fresh roasted coffee, decent baked goods, anything open late, conversation about anything more obscure than the weather or "those damn liberals" or "those perverts"!

I live in a great place, there is the best farmers market in California (or at least one of the great ones) within a block from my house, I can take a LONG walk to a great cafe, San Francisco is two hours away, Yosemite is three, Lassen Volcanic Park is also only three hours away.  I grow the best Mulberries, damn fine blueberries, figs, and even a few decent peaches in my backyard.

Home is what you make of it.



Bound2One -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 11:10:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b

There is also almost as much wildlife and fauna as you find in the country.

You just need to look.


With respect, I've seen black bear, beaver, rabbit and fox, white-tailed deer aplenty and once had the dubious privilege of driving behind a herd of cattle on the lam, complete with bull.

I've seen over fifty species of birds and have yet to catalogue the insects.

I have red squirrels and have seen one flying squirrel, various small rodentia and small bats.

Blue-spotted salamanders, a beautiful tiny green grass snake as well as your usual garters.

Toads and frogs by the score and two species of turtles if you don't count the snappers laying eggs at the side of the road.

Our largest bird is the turkey vulture, massive. We also have wild turkeys and grouse that routinely cross the road.

At night the howling of the coyotes compete with the howling of my pack.

I've been in London and I'd find it hard to imagine bumping into anything like what I've seen here.


Ick.  LOL  That's what the zoo's for.  Different strokes for different folks.  I can't even walk barefoot in the grass - I love running on concrete!  I grew up in a rowhome in a city neighborhood.  Safe as could be, tons of kids around, good schools ... it was a good childhood.  I now raise my kids in the suburbs on an acre with a single home, tons of trees, grass, and room for the dog to run.  I now love it here, and think it's a great place to raise them, though the kids are going to have to learn street smarts 'cause they don't know jack-shit about how to handle themselves in the city! 



Leatherist -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 11:31:17 PM)

I know what you mean about the city people dropping off unwanted cats and dogs Micheal. For those of you who think the farmer is going to take care of them for you-think again.

They are going to either starve to death-or get shot for going after the farmer's livestock. I lived on a horse ranch for several years-smack dab by a suburban development. The idiots let thier "pets" run loose,and we constantly had to shoot the bastards when they packed up and went after the foals.

He even threw five or six in the back of his truck after one incident,and drove them around the nieghborhood-asking the people if they recognized any of them. No one admitted to-but it was a couple of years before we saw any more. I guess they didn't like seeing "fido", with his brains blown out by a 41-70.

Or the owner had to go after some dumbass cutting tress on HIS property without permission-because he wanted a nicer view.  So I DO have my reasons for wanting to keep people at arm's length.



DaddyAndCarina -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 11:38:14 PM)

I get cats dropped off here all the time ...  tho I  have cats I dont have room for MORE cats but I cant let them  stay out and  be road kill ( or worse not killed but injured badly) so it ends up I take them in feed them and get them settled....  thrown from a moving car usually  takes a serious toll on them ... and  go  about finding a home for them with some one that fits the animal  I dont have things for them to  eat on ( chickens or such) But  I have  ended up finding a couple that  the coyotes munched on ...  YES I am soft hearted



DaddyAndCarina -> RE: Country Life vs. City Life (2/21/2008 11:40:48 PM)

 "Most people can't get used to killing cats and dogs (those city people love dropping them off) and having to raise and butcher animals.  As kids we knew we were good when the heart was still beating in your hand when you butchered a rabbit and we used to laugh at the chickens flying around without their head.

Cruel?  Less so than that plastic wrapped meat  you bought down at the market, trust me! "

EWWWWWWWWWWW  i knew there was a reason I didnt like meat



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