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RopesOverCuffs -> Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 9:04:08 PM)

Well I've been kind of curious about chains as of late...Went today to buy some longer rope at like home depot and noticed they also sale chains. ( as u can tell I dont shop at places like home depot very often lol im definetly not "Mr. Fix it" lol)

Anyways my gf thinks chains would hurt, not that I really want to use them as a replacement for rope. They just sparked my curiosity I guess. So what this is really about is I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with chains that they would like to share...well not too specific please lol...Just mainly wondering would they pinch the skin? pull too tightly? can they be used in conjunction with ropes? etc



Noah -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 9:21:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RopesOverCuffs
Anyways my gf thinks chains would hurt,


I hope she wasn't saying that as though it were a bad thing.

Chains or rope can be made to hurt a little or a lot or not at all.

But forget the fucking big box stores. Take her to an old-fashioned small-town hardware for the shopping experience, preferably one where they know your name.

Be sure to stop off at a scrapyard on the way home for some nice rusty stuff too, with her dressed for the occasion. The grime rusty chain leaves on a sweaty body can be just lovely, and psychologically powerful to boot. The extra frisson arising from the perceived increase in lockjaw risk is itself enough to justify the expenditure of gasoline, if you ask me.

Have fun.



HerLord -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 9:38:01 PM)

Only contirbution I have so far is... be sure to purchase "soft" "silky" chains.



RopesOverCuffs -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 9:41:05 PM)

hmm advise noted



Leatherist -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 10:08:13 PM)

Twist chain is best, but large link.

Like this.

http://www.hardwarestore.com/pop-print/larger-image.aspx?prodNo=41245


I can also use these to fasten it, then close it with a wrench.

http://www.birdsjustwannahavefun.com/images/link_large.jpg

Sometimes you need to file out the threaded end a bit, to fit over thicker links. You cannot open these with fingers, if you wrench tighten them. I would advise some caution on tension and what you do with it, this shit can tear you up.

This, and leather locking heavy duty bondage gear is my favorite.  You get out when I want you to get out. Not by playing "houdini".



Kana -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 10:08:49 PM)

Bondage depot chains can be fun.
There is something about the way chains clank when they are used to retsrain someone that can have magnificant affects on the other party (hows that for being nuanced).
Plus they have that extra heft, yumminess galore.Take some chain, then get some good calipers, use them with ringed wrist and ankle restraints instead of rope, its awesome fun.



wkdshadow -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 10:31:28 PM)

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The grime rusty chain leaves on a sweaty body can be just lovely, and psychologically powerful to boot.
Wash the chains first, a burr on the rust could cut you, and tetanus isn't good.



G9o5d4 -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 10:36:58 PM)

Chains and cuffs chains and cuffs and don't forget the padlocks.....



Leatherist -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 10:42:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wkdshadow

quote:

The grime rusty chain leaves on a sweaty body can be just lovely, and psychologically powerful to boot.
Wash the chains first, a burr on the rust could cut you, and tetanus isn't good.


No shit, some people make the dumbest suggestions. Rusty chains and chafing, right. Sounds like a trip to the er.



RopesOverCuffs -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 11:03:03 PM)

hah thanks for all the suggestions, def something worth trying... not really into "cuffs" though as the name suggests >.>

but ya I wasnt planning on doing anything with "rusty" chains... I prefer my gf alive thank you and in good health lol



Noah -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 11:30:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

quote:

ORIGINAL: wkdshadow

quote:

The grime rusty chain leaves on a sweaty body can be just lovely, and psychologically powerful to boot.
Wash the chains first, a burr on the rust could cut you, and tetanus isn't good.


No shit, some people make the dumbest suggestions. Rusty chains and chafing, right. Sounds like a trip to the er.


So you can reasonably control for the risks of impact play, knives, needles, suspension, etc, but you can't for the risks of rusty chain?

I guess maybe you could take a seminar or something.





Leatherist -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/23/2008 11:33:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

quote:

ORIGINAL: wkdshadow

quote:

The grime rusty chain leaves on a sweaty body can be just lovely, and psychologically powerful to boot.
Wash the chains first, a burr on the rust could cut you, and tetanus isn't good.


No shit, some people make the dumbest suggestions. Rusty chains and chafing, right. Sounds like a trip to the er.


So you can reasonably control for the risks of impact play, knives, needles, suspension, etc, but you can't for the risks of rusty chain?

I guess maybe you could take a seminar or something.





Yes.

And don't try to snowball me dude. There is a big difference between clean toys and disease infested crap, taken straight from a fucking junkyard. Be careful of what you say here, it may come back to bite you.



eyesopened -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 3:23:59 AM)

Well i'd been looking for this reciepe for a while and finally found it again and is something i REALLY want to try:

The Chain Trick…. A delicious dessert for two.

Ingredients: A length of chrome plated ¼" proof coil chain.
Rubbing alcohol.
Dish soap.
`Personal' Lube
Willing and sexually adventurous woman of legal age.

SERVES TWO (Or more if you play well with others.)

Prepare length of chain: Cautions: Chrome plated chain. Not galvanized. New; not old. Run your fingers over each link and look for welds that are not smooth. Reject any length with flaws. Rinse off the residue of the manufacturers oil with dish soap. Sterilize with alcohol but rinse it off before it comes into contact with her delicate membranes. Wash off the alcohol in warm water. You want it clean and sterile. It doesn't hurt to have it slightly warm too. Wrap it in a towel… you'll need the towel later. Set the wrapped chain aside.

Prepare Willing Wench of legal age. Note: Personal tastes and techniques vary. Do what works best for you. Wench should be happy and secure. Wench should be excited and feeling playful. Wench likely has NO IDEA how strong this will be. Neither do you. Have fun with that! Warm up Wench. Get her wet. If she's multiorgasmic (lucky you!) let her cum a few times. Little orgasms at this point are perfect.

Now combine previously prepared chain and warmed Willing Wench and serve.

Use lube. Use more lube.

Spread Wench. Knees up, ankles at her sides, lying on her back. Place a pillow under her if it helps make her birth canal open.
Use lube.

Slowly insert the chain link by link. Caution: you can pinch delicate folds between the links if you are not careful. Fact of the matter is…you probably will. If you go slow it will be a tiny pinch. To avoid pinching use lots of lube and slip each link into the one that preceded it (it will become obvious quickly how that's done.) Have fun with it. Insert the first few links as far as you can easily reach with one finger. They will move back as the latter links follow. The chain slowly fills and stretches her vagina. There are few nerves ending in the muscular walls of the vagina. These are rarely stimulated even during sex. This stretching introduces new sensations which can be quite powerful.

USE LUBE. Liberally. (That's why you brought the chain in a towel. Use the towel under her. Some lubes stain – especially on satin.)

The sensations you are creating are very much like those induced by `fisting'. The advantage of the chain is that you don't have to pass a large fist through the vaginal opening. There are some other advantages; she can move around more. That can be fun too. Try different positions when the chain is inside her. Let her roll on her side or on to her tummy. She may be able to walk with the chain
inside her; that's very interesting!

Note on how much chain to use. You won't know in advance how much she can take. Buy a couple of different lengths; 2', 3' and 4'. They're cheap (about $1.50/foot) and you'll find lots of ways to play with the different lengths. Some women can't take more than 2 feet. Some can. A four foot chain makes an interesting toy for two women to share.

Be playful. Lick her clit as you're inserting the chain. Rub her g-spot as the link goes in. Stop every now and then and insert your finger alongside the chain. Interesting isn't it? Tight too!

She will want to cum. Don't let her. Tell her to wait. It gets better. Much better.

When you've got all the chain that feels comfortable to you both folded and molded inside her begin to bring her closer to the peak. Don't rush it. Take your time. Enjoy it. She will. Let her fall back from the edge…. And help her climb up again. Let her squeeze down against the chain until you believe that she cannot stand it any more.

PULL THE CHAIN OUT. Do it in one continuous and rapid motion. Be prepared for her to squirt. (Towel under her is important.)

Lay the chain on her tummy where she can feel the weight against her uterus. (Isn't it astonishing how hot it is?!)
Move immediately to where you can hold her. Hold her through the shaking after quakes. (Don't worry if she won't talk for a while; some women faint.) Keep cuddling her for about 10 minutes. If you touch her clit she may explode. Wait.




LadyHathor -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 4:24:32 AM)

mmmmmmm chains! I adore chains--I never use rope, My nails are too long--chains, love the sound of the click when locks aree closed, love the sound of the clink clink--
 
You can keep chains in the freezer or in hot water--heh heh--I have a length of chain on each leg of My special bed---just in case.
 
oohh sorry, drifted off there to a naked boy collared, cuffed, chained, spread eagle...
 
Chains do not pinch ( except small ones in the scrotal area)--, I find they cause less blood restriction problems, less skin abrasion, and I find there is less danger of accidents and are always at the ready for last minute use!
 
Enjoy!



LadyHathor -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 4:28:15 AM)

There is an interesting variation for men, its called the 7 knots and its a handkerchief knotted smaller to larger, inserted into the anus and then slowly removed, one knot at a time especially when they start to orgasm---heh, look out moon another boy arriving on the Lady Hathor Rocket!



Maya2001 -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 5:39:27 AM)

Sounds like a lot of fun MMMMM 



TysGalilah -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 6:55:39 AM)

I only know to comment from the receipients perspective...
shudders at the thoughts of the weight and clanking..clinkin..mmmetal on skin...

but will leave the others to comment about the rights and wrongs and rules ( which I don't know much about, to tell the truth)..





Kana -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 8:38:24 AM)

but is that an objection tys?
or merely one of those really good kind of shudders



MasterToasty -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 8:39:25 AM)

First off... Rusty Chains are a lawsuit waiting to happen.  There is no way to mitigate the risk of rust on bare skin.  Especially shit straight out of a junkyard that may have industrial oils and other toxins on it.  No.  Stop posting 'advice' please.

If you are looking to avoid pinching with the chain, but still want to secure your sub with something that feels like they cannot escape, here is what has worked for me... I use a French Bowline** with 4-5 non-constricting loops to form a wrist cuff, ankle cuff, or double-limb bind.  Tie that cuff to a length of chain, secure accordingly.

Or, just use twisted chain as Leatherist suggests for minimal (enjoyable?) pinching.

Has anyone done shibari with chain before?  I'd be curious to know how that went.

EDIT:
**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqNUkgTwxzo 



StormsSlave -> RE: Chains- and experiences (2/24/2008 8:44:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: eyesopened

Well i'd been looking for this reciepe for a while and finally found it again and is something i REALLY want to try:

The Chain Trick…. A delicious dessert for two.

Ingredients: A length of chrome plated ¼" proof coil chain.
Rubbing alcohol.
Dish soap.
`Personal' Lube
Willing and sexually adventurous woman of legal age.

SERVES TWO (Or more if you play well with others.)

Prepare length of chain: Cautions: Chrome plated chain. Not galvanized. New; not old. Run your fingers over each link and look for welds that are not smooth. Reject any length with flaws. Rinse off the residue of the manufacturers oil with dish soap. Sterilize with alcohol but rinse it off before it comes into contact with her delicate membranes. Wash off the alcohol in warm water. You want it clean and sterile. It doesn't hurt to have it slightly warm too. Wrap it in a towel… you'll need the towel later. Set the wrapped chain aside.

Prepare Willing Wench of legal age. Note: Personal tastes and techniques vary. Do what works best for you. Wench should be happy and secure. Wench should be excited and feeling playful. Wench likely has NO IDEA how strong this will be. Neither do you. Have fun with that! Warm up Wench. Get her wet. If she's multiorgasmic (lucky you!) let her cum a few times. Little orgasms at this point are perfect.

Now combine previously prepared chain and warmed Willing Wench and serve.

Use lube. Use more lube.

Spread Wench. Knees up, ankles at her sides, lying on her back. Place a pillow under her if it helps make her birth canal open.
Use lube.

Slowly insert the chain link by link. Caution: you can pinch delicate folds between the links if you are not careful. Fact of the matter is…you probably will. If you go slow it will be a tiny pinch. To avoid pinching use lots of lube and slip each link into the one that preceded it (it will become obvious quickly how that's done.) Have fun with it. Insert the first few links as far as you can easily reach with one finger. They will move back as the latter links follow. The chain slowly fills and stretches her vagina. There are few nerves ending in the muscular walls of the vagina. These are rarely stimulated even during sex. This stretching introduces new sensations which can be quite powerful.

USE LUBE. Liberally. (That's why you brought the chain in a towel. Use the towel under her. Some lubes stain – especially on satin.)

The sensations you are creating are very much like those induced by `fisting'. The advantage of the chain is that you don't have to pass a large fist through the vaginal opening. There are some other advantages; she can move around more. That can be fun too. Try different positions when the chain is inside her. Let her roll on her side or on to her tummy. She may be able to walk with the chain
inside her; that's very interesting!

Note on how much chain to use. You won't know in advance how much she can take. Buy a couple of different lengths; 2', 3' and 4'. They're cheap (about $1.50/foot) and you'll find lots of ways to play with the different lengths. Some women can't take more than 2 feet. Some can. A four foot chain makes an interesting toy for two women to share.

Be playful. Lick her clit as you're inserting the chain. Rub her g-spot as the link goes in. Stop every now and then and insert your finger alongside the chain. Interesting isn't it? Tight too!

She will want to cum. Don't let her. Tell her to wait. It gets better. Much better.

When you've got all the chain that feels comfortable to you both folded and molded inside her begin to bring her closer to the peak. Don't rush it. Take your time. Enjoy it. She will. Let her fall back from the edge…. And help her climb up again. Let her squeeze down against the chain until you believe that she cannot stand it any more.

PULL THE CHAIN OUT. Do it in one continuous and rapid motion. Be prepared for her to squirt. (Towel under her is important.)

Lay the chain on her tummy where she can feel the weight against her uterus. (Isn't it astonishing how hot it is?!)
Move immediately to where you can hold her. Hold her through the shaking after quakes. (Don't worry if she won't talk for a while; some women faint.) Keep cuddling her for about 10 minutes. If you touch her clit she may explode. Wait.




Frantically scribbling notes...."hey, honey!  Let's go to DomDepot!"



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