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Dommes active in their community - 2/25/2008 7:08:29 PM   
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I just spent last weekend at the South Plains Leather Fest in Dallas, learning and absorbing a great deal from the many sessions I attended; along with the numerous enlightening conversations I had with people I met.  I'm still processing much of what I absorbed and will likely be posting on it in the near future. 
 
One of the things I was particularly aware of at the conference was the almost total absence or lack of attendance by Dommes except those who were "out of the closet" lesbians.  I've noticed much the same thing at the lifestyle groups I've joined here in Dallas.  There simply aren't many Dommes who are actively involved.  So my question to those of you who have primary relarionships with men and aren't active in the lifestyle groups in your community, is why?  What's preventing you from becoming involved?  Equally important, what, if anything would need to change in order for you to feel comfortable socializing with your peers in the lifestyle you choose to lead?
 
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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/25/2008 7:56:16 PM   
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I would like to become more active, the only thing is the clubs I've checked into hold their "meet and greets" during the week which makes it impossible for me and my sub to attend. If they held them on the weekend then we would go.

Also I have been told that sometimes Femdom couples are given a hard time or the cold shoulder. The cold shoulder doesn't bother me or him, we can ignore people just as good as they can us, but I know if someone gave us  a hardtime about being a Domme and sub male there would be some words exchanged.

But the larger problem is when they hold the meet and greet and most of the clubs won't let you join until you've attended them. I would think that it would be a lot of fun to belong to a club of like minded people.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/25/2008 8:56:12 PM   
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Also I have been told that sometimes Femdom couples are given a hard time or the cold shoulder. The cold shoulder doesn't bother me or him, we can ignore people just as good as they can us, but I know if someone gave us  a hardtime about being a Domme and sub male there would be some words exchanged.


Lashra,
I've not observed that kind of behavior here towards Femdom couples.  Things are very pansexual and all seem to be welcomed equally.  There are also many special interest groups, such as those particular to Dommes and subs, or those into rope bondage, etc.

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But the larger problem is when they hold the meet and greet and most of the clubs won't let you join until you've attended them. I would think that it would be a lot of fun to belong to a club of like minded people.

~Lashra


I guess that greatly depends on the club.  Most clubs here are open to any who want to join.  I've found that it is indeed very satisfying to be surrounded by like minded people in the same lifestyle who are accepting of who you are.  There are no pretenses or explanations to make for your or your partner's behavior.  Everyone seems to readily understand that it's your dynamic.  It's a great way to find friends with similar interests with whom who can just be yourself.  One organization I belong to has regular activities at vanilla locations that are purely social for exactly that reason.
 
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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/25/2008 8:59:55 PM   
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I'd be more active in my community, but I've got two kids and it's tough to find the time.

I pop in and out though, and at the events I've been to I've met some nice female Dominants. The DC/Baltimore area does not seem to have the problem you are discussing. Maybe you should move here?

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 5:05:54 AM   
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I'm an out lesbian.. so this might not count.. but for the nonlesbian femme dommes that I know -- well, there are very few... couple that with the fact that many have several reasons not to be out and about (children, school and all the regular stuff) and, and I can speak to this -- no matter who I am with, no matter what my face may say or show, no matter if its a meeting, or play party

I always get hit on in the most inappropriate manner; mind you, they always wait till whoever is with me goes to get a drink or leaves my side in some way... but to be honest, it gets tiring.  I may or may not project 'lesbian' (which is funny since my current interest is in finding a male) -- I still get hit on by straight men.  Its only in the context of CM that anyone would know what I'm looking for, so there is no reason for it.

At play parties, I either have outright rude interference (this happens about eight out of ten times I'm in a mixed environment) or what I mentioned above.

Just my take.. and my experience... I can't speak for the straight femme dommes, but I'm guessing some have had some similar experiences...

it keeps me away, sometimes.. though not always...

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 5:20:56 AM   
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The DC/Baltimore area does not seem to have the problem you are discussing. Maybe you should move here?

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Is that an invitation?
 
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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 5:31:13 AM   
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I'm surprised, Pixel, I thought there were lots of femdoms in Dallas!

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 5:33:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

for the nonlesbian femme dommes that I know -- well, there are very few... couple that with the fact that many have several reasons not to be out and about (children, school and all the regular stuff)


How is that any different for the typical M/s couple or the many female subs I run into all the time?  I have two UM's and numerous obligations to other things myself. 
 


no matter who I am with, no matter what my face may say or show, no matter if its a meeting, or play party
I always get hit on in the most inappropriate manner; mind you, they always wait till whoever is with me goes to get a drink or leaves my side in some way... but to be honest, it gets tiring.  I may or may not project 'lesbian' (which is funny since my current interest is in finding a male) -- I still get hit on by straight men.  Its only in the context of CM that anyone would know what I'm looking for, so there is no reason for it.

At play parties, I either have outright rude interference (this happens about eight out of ten times I'm in a mixed environment) or what I mentioned above.

Just my take.. and my experience... I can't speak for the straight femme dommes, but I'm guessing some have had some similar experiences...

it keeps me away, sometimes.. though not always...


I'm genuinely sorry to hear you've had those kinds of experiences.  Some communities tend to police themselves, or so it seems to me.  They either educate such miscreants on protocola or suggest they spend their time elsewhere until they learn good manners.  Granted, the same sort of thing happens on the flip side of the D/s coin in the M/s world as well.  Those who have no respect for the relationships of others can be found anywhere you go, both in this lifestyle and the vanilla one as well.
 
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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 5:51:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I'm surprised, Pixel, I thought there were lots of femdoms in Dallas!


I believe there are Lady Hibiscus.  However, for some reason, many of them choose not to actively participate in the local community.  When I attend the larger lifestyle events, I've observed the participation by the ladies is a great deal smaller than I'd have expected, which has greatly surprised me since I've met so many nice and friendly people when I attend them!  The community here is quite large.  We do have at least two special interest groups in the area that are Domme/sub only and even there, participation is less than I would have expected for a community of this size.  Thus the reason behind my question in wanting to know what obstacles prevented dominant women from becoming involved.
 
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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 6:02:38 AM   
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Less testosterone.
 
It isn't a need to feel comfortable, its that I am at the other end of the spectrum in philosophy with many of the locals.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 6:03:19 AM   
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I can only speak from my experience but down here in Central Texas there is a pretty decent percentage of the lifestyle community that are femdoms whether unpaired, or in marriages/partnerships with subs or, as in my case, with a male Dom husband and we each have our sub or bottom partners.  Actually, in almost all of the groups active here there is active participation by femdoms.  By that I mean in leadership positions or active in doing presentations or in participating and attending meetings and play parties. 

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 6:49:05 AM   
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I should have said -- its possible these are some reasons... yes, we're all busy but adding up all the possibles might make it less possible for femme dommes to manage to make it out.  The other thing to remember is that short of the female sub willing to become part of an existing couple, the femme domme is possible the next most illusive creature out there... I gather we are in short supply.

As to my experiences, they happen... to be honest, I was a bit stronger about it than I need to be.  There are also plenty of lovely and respectful people about.. and I don't often mention that, I should.  I actually believe we are self policing for the most part, but in larger more commercial spaces (one I frequent in DC) its less so.  I know the owner and have on some occasions had to mention something to him and he is very accomodating.  That said, the single new male person who wanders into the space without any idea what he should or shouldn't do is the bread and butter of spaces like that, and I'm keenly aware of it.

I think its also about perspective...

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 7:37:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

I just spent last weekend at the South Plains Leather Fest in Dallas, learning and absorbing a great deal from the many sessions I attended; along with the numerous enlightening conversations I had with people I met. I'm still processing much of what I absorbed and will likely be posting on it in the near future.

One of the things I was particularly aware of at the conference was the almost total absence or lack of attendance by Dommes except those who were "out of the closet" lesbians. I've noticed much the same thing at the lifestyle groups I've joined here in Dallas. There simply aren't many Dommes who are actively involved. So my question to those of you who have primary relarionships with men and aren't active in the lifestyle groups in your community, is why? What's preventing you from becoming involved? Equally important, what, if anything would need to change in order for you to feel comfortable socializing with your peers in the lifestyle you choose to lead?

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This isn't a general answer because my general answer would be that I live being involved in a local community. It does have to be close enough for us to go regularly though otherwise I don't feel like I'm actually part of a community at all. Given our busy lives that means can we get there in 20 minutes?

Specifically we left whatever passes for a local community now several years ago because of some rumors that were being spread by people and the lack of defense of my family that others gain. We remained friends with those few who did defend us but cut everyone else out of our lives period.

Yeah, I'm still damn pissed about it because my family and me both invested a lot of time, energy and even money in that so-called community.


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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 9:18:16 AM   
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I can only answer for myself. Regardless of sexuality I just don't have a huge interest in investing what precious free time I have in a group that shares, only a facet of who I am as a whole. Add to that, I live in Iowa, the large number of the groups around here are probably hetro and very focused on male dominant, female submissive type interactions. I may be wrong but odds would have it that way.

Also, I get the feeling, from the emails I get, that the topics discussed at their gatherings are not my interests, on the whole. Example:  I was told that one of the recent gatherings the discussion was primarily focused on gor slave positions. No interest here. They meet, during the weekend, 60 miles from where I live. I drive that same 60 miles twice a day, 5 days a week. It is going to have to be something pretty damned exciting to get me to do it on a weekend.

My time is very limited. Most of my free time involves playing catch up with farm work and family obligations. When I do something involving a "community" it is going to have to be something I am very passionate about.  I would prefer to donate my time to something like Miracles in Motion. Something that actually benefits people that have a distinct need, instead of just a shared lifestyle kink/style.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 9:20:26 AM   
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Back home,it seemed to me that everyone wanted to talk about their kink and what gives them a rise and when i was asked about what it was that gave me a rise it always was greeted with raised eyebrows and those "isn't that strange"type looks.Yet i kept attending munches in the hope that i would meet someone..oh yes i had a playtime or two but nothing ever materialized that meant something.I am pretty skeptical now about opening up to a group of people.And a group of a certain kink society in western new york are real jerks.I have never in my life spoken with people so stuck on themselves.So now i am on my own quest ..let the chips fall where they may.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 9:23:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave
 So my question to those of you who have primary relarionships with men and aren't active in the lifestyle groups in your community, is why?  What's preventing you from becoming involved?  Equally important, what, if anything would need to change in order for you to feel comfortable socializing with your peers in the lifestyle you choose to lead?
 
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Activities in my area would greatly increase my ability to be involved. I do not have the time nor money to travel to be involved. Fox would come with me, so worrying about my partners interests is not a problem.  I have no issue associating with my peers, though I do happen to have issues with those Dommes (and Doms) who find themselves in a position to comment on how I can do things better when I have not ASKED for advice. I get that alot ot larger gatherings when I was back in NY, and so I dont tend to like that sort of socalizing. If I had more comfortable, non-public play related activities around here... like munches and seminars and such that werent going to turn into playdates on grander scales... I would be a lot more active than I am.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 10:13:42 AM   
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Speaking for myself, being a female dominant in a BDSM club can be a tiring experience. I've attended Paddles many times. Usually accompanied by friends or my submissive.  Any time I was left alone for 30 seconds or more, I'd get approached by males, sub and dom alike. The subs would make inappropriate requests to service my shoes/boots/whatever (sometimes while I was performing aftercare on my sub!) and the male doms would try to convince me to switch for them. This sort of meat market mentality can be very draining of one's energy, so I rarely go anymore. As for munches, they're usually scheduled when I work, so that's out. I would like to be more active within the local scene but I don't see it happening. Since it's impossible to change how people behave, public or otherwise, I avoid being exposed to the less desirables by simply not involving myself in the local scene.


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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 11:17:59 AM   
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This might not be the answer that you're looking for, since I've only gotten re-involved in the community in the past year.  However, since I've only just gotten involved again, maybe I can add a couple of pennies to the discussion.

In My case, there were a few reasons that I didn't jump right back in when coming to GA.  The relocation factor alone was a big one.  When We moved, I didn't go looking for the scene for quite some time. Though I live in a city, there isn't a single public BDSM club here.  That's not an exaggeration.  Even the private group is very small and it took some time to find them once I did start looking.

Which leads to travel.  The closest public club is in Atlanta, which is about two hours away.  I wasn't always in the position to be able to do so.  My first priorities weren't in making the trip, since at that time, I did still have a sub here.  I just wasn't doing public, casual play then.  Of course, financial plays into that as well.

Work and family played a part in it as well.  My personal schedule is very complicated.  I'm not always available on weekends, when a lot of events are held.

Now that I'm in a better position to do so, I do try to be active in My local, and not so local scene.  It takes some doing, and I don't get to everything that I would like to, but I make connections where I can.



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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 11:46:56 AM   
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For Me, and in My area, I have to say that it is a testosterone situation.  APEX does have a tendency to be very MaleDom/fembsub oriented.  There has been inappropriate behavior and some partonization at parties and other regular events, assumptions that FemDoms must be subs, interference with a FemDom playing with her personal slave, etc.  The Fem Group attached is out and out lesbian in nature, and I have nothing against them, but it does lean towards a "clichey" atmostphere.
I am working with another FemDom in My area, and we have been holding our own munches and working towards a FemDom oriented satellite group.  It is slow going, but eventually we will have, I am confident, a good group that is comfortable for us and comfortable for the male subs who prefer our brand of socialization.
Time is another consideration.  This is a very widespread metro area, and for Me, it would take an hour to get to the local meet and greets/demos, etc. (For some of the other Dominas I know also) .  APEX, itself, it nicely and fairly centrally located, but many of the residents are nmot that conveneint to a freeway and are farther out from the central location.  Although I check as often as possible regarding the calendar, I have to admit that there is seldom something on the schedule that is interesting enough to spend the time and gas.

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RE: Dommes active in their community - 2/26/2008 1:08:04 PM   
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I can only speak from my experience but down here in Central Texas there is a pretty decent percentage of the lifestyle community that are femdoms whether unpaired, or in marriages/partnerships with subs or, as in my case, with a male Dom husband and we each have our sub or bottom partners.  Actually, in almost all of the groups active here there is active participation by femdoms.  By that I mean in leadership positions or active in doing presentations or in participating and attending meetings and play parties. 


I'd agree with you to the extent that they're active, especially in situations like yours where the women are part of a male Dom relationship and would be what I'd refer to as essentially a switch; although I totally understand you wouldn't be switching with your sub as is the case with most I know of in your type of situation.  I also don't know how intimate your relationship would be with your sub as it seems to vary greatly from relationship to relationship. 
 
As for me perosnally, I'm not at all interested in a poly relationship.  So someone in your situation which is indeed very common here wouldn't be what I'd be looking for.  In my case, I'm looking for more than a long term play partner; one that would have the potential to become an exclusive life partner as well to share vanilla activities with me and a whole lot more.  It's the single or coupled Femdoms, that seem to be missing or not very involved in the community in our area based on my observations which I'll readily admit aren't especially scientific.  When I was married to my ex-wife/former-Mistress, I was forbidden to participate in the local community, so that may be where some are coming from.  I'm very pleased to have the freedom to make friends with people to whom I can now relate and not have to hide my submissiveness toward a woman in my life. 
 
In DFW PowerExchange for example, which has a membership of approximately 450 and an active core group of about 150 that regularly attend the various functions, rarely do I see a Domme who isn't part of an M/s couple.  They're wonderful people to hang out with and the group has many non-BDSM events, including social nights at a Karaoke bar, a submissives only night (all female subs I might add; I can never attend because it's scheduled on a night when I have the UM's), a monthly discussion group, a craft guild (make your own toys), a group for those trying to lose weight and get into shape, and a monthly munch with a play party afterwards, plus there's probably more that I'm forgetting (a "Seeking" group with 3 profiles from dommes, 1 of which is poly).  It's indeed a very active group and I've made many friends among them. 
 
The only time I've typically seen the dommes come out is probably on a 4th Friday munch which is separate group of it's own that meets in the DFW area and is the largest pansexual munch around.  Of special interest to Mistresses and subs would be WICK'D, which is for the Dommes and subs, but attendance is much smaller than one would expect with the reputation Dallas has for being the home of so many Femdoms.  However, all the ladies are of course very nice and I enjoy their company.  I've not yet connected with the new ClubFem group that meets in nearby Ft Worth.  One group that's new in the northern suburbs (the area where I live) with 49 members so far has a total of two dommes that have joined (oops, based on her screen name, there may be a 3rd one now). 
 
There's now a 2nd dungeon in the Dallas area, and it's too early to say what will become of it.  I belong to the original and volunteer to help out there.  As a result I'm there often enough to get a feel for the numbers of Femdoms who frequent it.  I can assure you it's generally very low as a percentage of the total number of those who frequent the place.  I really don't doubt that dommes exist here who aren't coupled in M/s relationships, I'm just wondering why they don't come out to the many events available to them.  The kinds of behavior some have described is truly not tolerated in our area from what I've observed although I'm certain it happens as it does everywhere.  But there are always DM's and others to put them in their place or toss them out the door if necessary.
 
I was just really surprised to attend SPLF and not see hardly any dommes in attendance where they could learn more about themselves and the lifestyle while socializing among their peers.  That's where I was initially coming from and expanded it to include a domme's local lifestyle community for those who have them readily available to them.  Whether to play in public or not is always a choice even when available and that's not at all where I was coming from.  The demos I've seen put on at the meetings I've attended are typically geared to both D/s and M/s orienations, with some more specific to one or the other on rare occasions from what I've sen.  Even in cases of that sort, I've always found there's something to be learned from attending those which might not seem to be of interest or apply to me.  Of course YMMV according to your openeness to alternative lifestyes and POV's different than your own.
 
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