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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:13:56 AM

MissMagnolia

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Whats the point of this thread? All you seem to be doing is drawing attention to yourself for some unknown reason. You don't need the help of a bunch of strangers on a BDSM site, no matter how kind they are.

Doctors didn't go through years of training specifically to piss you off and control your life. You're not that important, believe me.

Get off your duff and get to a doctor before you die.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:13:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dollparts85

Trying to tell me what I can and can't do and threatening to hospitalize me against my will. I have to see my doctor again Wednesday...he's the one who put me in the hospital last time...I passed out again last week and I was stupid to tell my nutritionist about it...I thought it might be like anemia or something and I could take iron and be done with it...but she wanted me to see the doctor...he'll probably do all kinds of blood work, electrolytes and everything...I was doing pretty well when I had a Dom but I'm not even about to give up control of my food and stuff to a doctor. *sighs* I wish I could just stop going to the doctors completely...it's not like they even help me...they just make it worse...

I don't know you..that makes it hard to judge.
But this post...makes me give the idea...you DO need help.
But as I said..it is just an impression from some typed words.

A second opinion might be an idea.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:22:21 AM

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My doctor is a typical quack. I went there last month complaining about a sore knee. He twists it around and tries to drive his thumb between the various joint lines and decides to prescribe some whiz-bang anti-inflammatory. Then he says to hop on the scales....

The obviously damaged scales say I weigh 114kgs.... He consults his records and notes I did weigh 105kgs. And all matter-of-fact he says (more or less) that "the script should ease the pain but the next time you come in here bitching about your knee, you better weigh 105 or less!!!!"

They're quacks and they're all bossy with it...! lol

Focus.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:25:54 AM

dollparts85

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make sure you eat with the anti inflammatory...they're rough on the stomach.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:33:03 AM

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Years of bulimia makes anyone mentally unbalanced. Your electrolytes etc have been stuffed for too long and you cannot possibly think straight. You seem a little paranoid, but that's not unusual for someone with your disease.

Can you join your local Food Addicts Anonymous for some free support from people with no agenda other than to help you? You are a slave to your obsession with food and weight. Its time to be set free

You need urgent help from people who have survived your illness in real life, not a bunch of strangers on a BDSM web site

Good luck getting well.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:45:13 AM

dollparts85

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I used to go to OA but it was a bunch of bs.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:59:25 AM

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Let's see...

The doctors you've seen are nuts... the people who have survived this who you've seen are nuts...

Wonder what the common denominator here is...?

In other, much kinder words, the very idea that you're coming on a site looking for validation of your "they're all nuts" theory is pretty indicative of the idea that you need more help than any of us can give you.

You know all the medical ramifications of what you do and yet, it appears you see nothing wrong with it - at least not enough to rely on those who can help you. Instead, you come on a bdsm forum to ... what?... get some better medical advice?

Go to the damn doctor. And for my money, that whole "can't force you unless you're a harm to yourself" business just might hold water if you're not careful. Cause I'm thinking that a stomach on the verge of bursting or an esophagus getting ready to go the same way just "MIGHT" be considered dangerous, and the very fact that you're willing to give it a shot anyway, just "could" be considered by some to constitute a danger to yourself.

My sympathy button is broken.

juliet

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 2:59:46 AM

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You need to focus.
Go to a doctor and get some help.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:02:25 AM

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My sister is a bulemic.

She was a large girl, got pregnant, suffered through severe morning/all day sickness, lost about 100lbs during her pregnancy and LOVED the fact that all she had to do was make herself throw up to lose weight.

She's been bulemic for over 15 years now. She's rail thin. She's not "pretty" or even slightly "attractive." Her skin tone is gray. We're all convinced her liver is on the outs. Her hair is dull and lifeless. She's paranoid, depressed and recently been diagnosed as bi-polar. She JUST turned 40 years old. She's in the process of having every last one of her teeth PULLED and getting fitted for dentures because the stomach acid ate the enamel off her teeth. There's nothing "good" whatsoever about an eating disorder. I predict, if she doesn't seriously get help, we'll be attending her funeral in a few years.

YOU are making excuses. Some very sound advice was offered up to you in this thread. You've either chose to ignore some of it and you've fluffed off others as "BS". You don't need OA. You need help from a group that is geared towards Bulemics, NOT heavy overeaters. You need to listen to your doctor and stop seeking help from random people on random message boards.

But then, you're not really looking for help, are you? What you're looking for is vindication that you are right, the doctors are all out to get you and you obviously know what's best for your physical and mental health....even though the disease you suffer from has taken THAT ability away from you by starving your brain of what it needs.

Harsh? Maybe...but i'm just calling it like i see it.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:04:23 AM

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I haven't been purging much lately...only maybe a dozen times since I got out of the hospital in Nov...I'm more focusing more on not eating much...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:06:02 AM

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Oh goodie... so you're "coming along" by moving from bulemia to anorexia....congrats.

sheesh.

juliet

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:06:38 AM

dollparts85

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sorry I don't believe in those 12 step programs...I don't believe in god...and I'm not going to "admit I'm powerless over food" I'm not. I'm in control. No one else is.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:07:44 AM

dollparts85

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Not eating doesn't make one anorexic. You have to be under weight to be diagnosed with anorexia.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:10:24 AM

SubinMaine

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dollparts85

I haven't been purging much lately...only maybe a dozen times since I got out of the hospital in Nov...I'm more focusing more on not eating much...

Then you STILL need help.

Fact: You can have 1 alcoholic drink per week....say every Friday night, just to "unwind". You come home from work and head straight for the scotch. Without that ONE drink every week, you cannot relax. Guess what? YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC! Why? Because you NEED to have that ONE drink.

You still purge. It doesn't matter "how many times", you still do it. If you still feel the need to stick your fingers down your throat to rid your body of food you ingested, at any time, then you still need help.

i've offered up my opinion, you can take it or leave it.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:13:32 AM

MsCfromMelbourne

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dollparts85

sorry I don't believe in those 12 step programs...I don't believe in god...and I'm not going to "admit I'm powerless over food" I'm not. I'm in control. No one else is.

My chubby friend with bulemia went to Food Addicts Anonymous and she not only got happy and healthy, she got THIN!!!! She looks a million bucks now.

I would say I believed in Santa Clause if it cured an otherwise fatal illness!

OP, you are 22 years old, 155cms and 129kgs. Wake up. Who controls who?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 3:17:07 AM

dollparts85

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I only gained weight b/c my metabolism was shot from my hypothyrodism. I recently had my metabolic rate tested and I was only burning 500 calories a day. It takes 3500 calories to gain a pound, so if I ate "normal" 2000 calories a day, I would be gaining several pounds a week.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 4:00:01 AM

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Eating a healthy diet in controlled portions is the best way to lose weight. Between diabetes and a year long course of Steroids I went from 135 lbs at 5'6 to 275. I now weigh 175 lbs and that weight is slowly coming off now that my thyroid is no longer in over production. I eat 4 small meals a day with dinner being the largest and exercise sensibly.

Please go to the hospital, let them get your electrolytes back under control, and ensure that no other system is being affected by the bulemia. Damaging the liver, kidneys, stomach, intestines, etc. can cause you to retain weight as well.

And Alumbrado, they can and will Baker Act someone for Anorexia or Bulemia in NY. They do consider that a life threatening disease that the person cannot control and is therefore doing harm to themselves. A family can request it, a Doctor can or they can apply for a court order. Too many young women have died from them both.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 4:09:05 AM

TysGalilah

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dollparts85

Trying to tell me what I can and can't do and threatening to hospitalize me against my will. I have to see my doctor again Wednesday...he's the one who put me in the hospital last time...I passed out again last week and I was stupid to tell my nutritionist about it...I thought it might be like anemia or something and I could take iron and be done with it...but she wanted me to see the doctor...he'll probably do all kinds of blood work, electrolytes and everything...I was doing pretty well when I had a Dom but I'm not even about to give up control of my food and stuff to a doctor. *sighs* I wish I could just stop going to the doctors completely...it's not like they even help me...they just make it worse...

12 step programs are funny that way. They don't expect anything of you, except the desire to be there and listen.
They won't even argue with you dammit, when you tell them you don't need them! They don't give you advice or try to tell you what to do? damn them! They smile at you when you say they are full of shit and that you dont have the same problem as everyone else in that room, shoot they will even hug you when you say you cannot work this program because you don't beleive in God.
They don't try to control your food. They don't even tell you you have a problem with it. Because they feel that is for YOU to decide.
They are just no fun and give you no resistance or judgements or try to control you or your life.

Of course they don't work for you!

now doctors...hospitals......doms.....chat rooms......mssg board forums....strangers....

THOSE are much more fun to engage.
They argue
They will give you boundaries to break, comments to argue about, resistance to push against...opinions to reject and hence, a sense of control and empowerment (in your mind anyway).

My food and health is out of control , but by gawd I will convince MYSELF I AM JUST FINE > by convincing these people that I am. Yes, I CAN and will control them with my attitude and my illness and my unwillingness to listen and help myself. They will give me negative attn and I will throw it right back at them to prove I don't need anyone to help me. Because, IF I can do that, then I can feel convinced myself.

I don't want anyone making me FEEL my feelings or forcing me to "WANT" to be different. And those damn 12Step'ers just got tooo dang close to doing that for my comfort level. I almost admitted that I need help! I almost felt my tears and my fear.
So..no...I won't be going back there!

I will sit here and emotionally fuck with people who are gonna try to "HELP" me LOL Its sooo fun to watch. And I can shut them and the computer down anytime any feelings or advice gets a little too close to making me look inside.

Hot damn, THIS works for me> That 12step crap just doesn't.

Dollparts
everyones "bottom" ( as in hitting bottom) is different. I wish you enlightenment in finding yours swiftly, safely and soon. And then serenity and good health.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 4:47:13 AM

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Not eating doesn't make one anorexic. You have to be under weight to be diagnosed with anorexia.

While i don't wish to enter this "debate" (or attention seeking thread) you clearly desire. i must, of course, tell you that this is the biggest misconception about anorexia diagnosis......You are wrong...Just plain wrong....

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:58:04 AM

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the ultimate torture isn't it... you are so obsessed with being thin and getting to that Theoretical "image" of thinness that you fuck up your body to the point where the put you on drugs that cause you to plump up like a balloon. sadly i've seen it happen all to often..(and those are usually the lucky ones)
wait till you have to start digesting the frozen partially digested slop. thats when it really gets fun. Think the nastiest babyfood ever Frozen so that it will at least get down past your tongue.
and actually get absorbed into the digestive tract rather then coming back up or passing right through.

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