Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: How can Japan defend this???


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: How can Japan defend this??? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 3 [4]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/6/2008 11:03:53 PM   
slaveboyforyou


Posts: 3607
Joined: 1/6/2005
From: Arkansas, U.S.A.
Status: offline
Well, I took a look at Sea Shepard's website.  As I reckoned; they are a bunch of hippie, vegan lunatics.  I don't keep up with groups like this much.  But I do remember some of those ALF and ELF, bomb throwing, arsonist, nuts were connected with them. 

All I can say is if they want to play little games on the open seas, then they should be prepared for possible consequences.  I'd have thrown molotov cocktails back at the little over privilged pricks.   

(in reply to Muttling)
Profile   Post #: 61
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 4:14:09 AM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

Well, I took a look at Sea Shepard's website.  As I reckoned; they are a bunch of hippie, vegan lunatics.  I don't keep up with groups like this much.  But I do remember some of those ALF and ELF, bomb throwing, arsonist, nuts were connected with them. 
If,as you say,you don't keep up with them much how is it that you know that they are "hippie,vegan lunatics"? 
Do you have any proof that they are connected to the ALF or the ELF?  Do you have any proof that they are bomb throwing arsonist nuts?  How do you get to bomb throwing from butter chucking?
 

All I can say is if they want to play little games on the open seas, then they should be prepared for possible consequences.  I'd have thrown molotov cocktails back at the little over privilged pricks. 
Why do you think that throwing "Molotov cocktails" is an appropriate response to someone throwing rotten butter?
How do you come to the conclusion that they are "over privileged"?
 

(in reply to slaveboyforyou)
Profile   Post #: 62
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 4:29:14 AM   
RealityLicks


Posts: 1615
Joined: 10/23/2007
Status: offline
Latest development - a Sea Shepherd crew member claims to have been shot by the Japanese Coast Guards.  The Japanese admit to lobbing a few flashbangs to deterrent effect but this guy alleges he dug a bullet out of his kevlar vest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/mar/07/whaling.japan


Call me Ishmael.

(in reply to slaveboyforyou)
Profile   Post #: 63
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 5:56:47 AM   
Smith117


Posts: 1447
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

Well, I took a look at Sea Shepard's website.  As I reckoned; they are a bunch of hippie, vegan lunatics.  I don't keep up with groups like this much.  But I do remember some of those ALF and ELF, bomb throwing, arsonist, nuts were connected with them. 

All I can say is if they want to play little games on the open seas, then they should be prepared for possible consequences.  I'd have thrown molotov cocktails back at the little over privilged pricks.   




Exactly.

(in reply to slaveboyforyou)
Profile   Post #: 64
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 8:11:57 AM   
Muttling


Posts: 1612
Joined: 9/30/2007
Status: offline
Would you have tossed such devices at them before or after slaughtering right whale calves swimming along side their mothers?


Before or after venturing into Australian waters and being told to leave then harpooning whales?






Heck, if the Japanese were really serious about this they have an impressive naval force.   Why not send a light cruiser escort and engage the ships in a conventional military manner?   Sinking the Sea Shepherd vessels could be EASILY accomplished by Japan's Navy.

(in reply to Smith117)
Profile   Post #: 65
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 8:53:09 AM   
Smith117


Posts: 1447
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Muttling

Would you have tossed such devices at them before or after slaughtering right whale calves swimming along side their mothers?


Before or after venturing into Australian waters and being told to leave then harpooning whales?






Heck, if the Japanese were really serious about this they have an impressive naval force.   Why not send a light cruiser escort and engage the ships in a conventional military manner?   Sinking the Sea Shepherd vessels could be EASILY accomplished by Japan's Navy.


Good point. Perhaps they should.

(in reply to Muttling)
Profile   Post #: 66
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 11:38:04 AM   
MissMorrigan


Posts: 2309
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline
Same here, HS. I'm not anti either whaling or seal culling, however, I am emphatically against current methods used to achieve this
quote:

ORIGINAL: HandSolo
They eat them, it's apparently excellent meat. I've heard arguments that minke whales are pretty much like ungulates, intelligence-wise, and have a sustainable population. I'm not in favor of whaling in general, but I'm willing to listen to reasonable arguments.


_____________________________

The Tooth Fairy who teaches kids to sell body parts for money.

A free society is a society where it is safe to find one's self unpopular and where history has shown that exceptions are not that exceptional.

(in reply to HandSolo)
Profile   Post #: 67
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 7:41:45 PM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Muttling

Would you have tossed such devices at them before or after slaughtering right whale calves swimming along side their mothers?


Before or after venturing into Australian waters and being told to leave then harpooning whales?






Heck, if the Japanese were really serious about this they have an impressive naval force.   Why not send a light cruiser escort and engage the ships in a conventional military manner?   Sinking the Sea Shepherd vessels could be EASILY accomplished by Japan's Navy.


Muttling:
By the terms of the treaty that ended the last war that they lost they cannot have a Navy or an Army or an Air Force...what they do have is called a Self Defense Force.  Don't you think it would be stretching the limits of credibility to claim self defense while protecting poachers in foreign territorial waters from butter chuckers.
thompson





(in reply to Muttling)
Profile   Post #: 68
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 7:52:40 PM   
Foititis


Posts: 66
Joined: 10/31/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117
Good point. Perhaps they should.

Perhaps the Australian royal navy should have sunk them when we had the chance, would have saved everyone a lot of heart ache.

(in reply to Smith117)
Profile   Post #: 69
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 8:33:03 PM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Foititis

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117
Good point. Perhaps they should.

Perhaps the Australian royal navy should have sunk them when we had the chance, would have saved everyone a lot of heart ache.

I am not sure why you want to kill people for chucking rotten butter at poachers?
thompson






(in reply to Foititis)
Profile   Post #: 70
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 8:42:14 PM   
Muttling


Posts: 1612
Joined: 9/30/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Foititis

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117
Good point. Perhaps they should.

Perhaps the Australian royal navy should have sunk them when we had the chance, would have saved everyone a lot of heart ache.


I think they should have boarded the vessel and arrested them.   If you or I were out fishing in Australian waters by illegal methods or without a license, what do you think would happen to us?

(in reply to Foititis)
Profile   Post #: 71
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 10:41:23 PM   
Foititis


Posts: 66
Joined: 10/31/2007
Status: offline
You'd be deported, I'd be fined.

(in reply to Muttling)
Profile   Post #: 72
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/7/2008 10:44:55 PM   
Muttling


Posts: 1612
Joined: 9/30/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Foititis

You'd be deported, I'd be fined.



And the ship?   In the U.S., any equipment used for poaching is siezed by the State.   If you poach a deer and put it in the back of your truck, you are fined along with loosing your rifle and your truck.  

(in reply to Foititis)
Profile   Post #: 73
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:26:19 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

Good point. Perhaps they should.



[sarcasm]

Yes, I have been on a whale watching cruise.  I have seen my whale, so we dont really need to have them on our planet any more.  Let the Japanese kill all the whales despite the damage to the ecosystem or the violation of international laws and treaties (they were in Australian waters) because we still have whales at Sea World, and as everybody knows, if the whale did not want to be killed, it would swim somewhere else.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[/sarcasm]

You people who support the Japanese are funny.

Sinergy



_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to Smith117)
Profile   Post #: 74
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:31:34 AM   
Smith117


Posts: 1447
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

You people who support the Japanese are funny.



So are the people supporting an increasingly dangerous attack pattern from so-called humanitarians. Do you also support those who bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors, nurses and innocent bystanders to save some fetuses?

(in reply to Sinergy)
Profile   Post #: 75
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:36:30 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

You people who support the Japanese are funny.



So are the people supporting an increasingly dangerous attack pattern from so-called humanitarians. Do you also support those who bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors, nurses and innocent bystanders to save some fetuses?



I dont support those who kill or intimdate people engaged in lawful professions, but thanks for asking.

Dont like the law?  Change it.  Or move somewhere that feels the way you do.

Welcome to California, now go home.

Sinergy

p.s.  What exactly does your post have to do with Japan?



_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to Smith117)
Profile   Post #: 76
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:38:33 AM   
Smith117


Posts: 1447
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

I dont support those who kill or intimdate people engaged in lawful professions, but thanks for asking.

Dont like the law?  Change it.  Or move somewhere that feels the way you do.

Welcome to California, now go home.

Sinergy

p.s.  What exactly does your post have to do with Japan?




Well, your earlier post implied you were against Japan in this instance. Yet they were the victims of the attack, the intimidation. And you were supporting it.

(in reply to Sinergy)
Profile   Post #: 77
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:39:21 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
Before you reply that the Sea Shepherds were preventing the Japanese from whaling, please look at the part of the post that indicated they were doing it in Australian waters and in violation of the Australian navy telling them to leave.  If they need to kill whales, they have the Sea of Japan to find them.

It is always important to head off the obtuse and irrelevant response before it is posted.

Sinergy



_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to Sinergy)
Profile   Post #: 78
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:41:41 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

Well, your earlier post implied you were against Japan in this instance. Yet they were the victims of the attack, the intimidation. And you were supporting it.



It is unfortunate you failed to understand my earlier posts.

Sinergy


_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to Smith117)
Profile   Post #: 79
RE: How can Japan defend this??? - 3/8/2008 12:45:11 AM   
Smith117


Posts: 1447
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

[sarcasm]

Yes, I have been on a whale watching cruise.  I have seen my whale, so we dont really need to have them on our planet any more.  Let the Japanese kill all the whales despite the damage to the ecosystem or the violation of international laws and treaties (they were in Australian waters) because we still have whales at Sea World, and as everybody knows, if the whale did not want to be killed, it would swim somewhere else.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[/sarcasm]

You people who support the Japanese are funny.

Sinergy




This would be the post I was referring to. Indicating those who support the Japanese are 'funny' implies that you side with the attackers in this case, the attackers who are using threatening and intimidating tactics against the Japanese. What is there to misunderstand?

(in reply to Sinergy)
Profile   Post #: 80
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 3 [4]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: How can Japan defend this??? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 3 [4]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094