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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 3:37:09 PM

colouredin

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oh now now, i think its all about giving and sharing and recieving and giving and sharing, and once we have given and shared and recieved we can give and share and recieve (god im loving the friends referances today)

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 7:11:07 PM

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Most of the time, specially men who go about it like this, honestly have no idea what to do when it actually happens, get quite flustered, or try to "over dom." The sub is so nervous and focused on being pleasing, that mostly the "other girl" is left out in the cold and has to take control of things to get anything done and leaves fairly unsatisfied.

Which is why I rarely provide that service anymore, and only for good friends.

Now, get a woman who honestly owns their bisexuality and expresses it happily, and a man who actually understands sexual dynamics and enjoying an encounter fully, and it's bliss. But this hardly ever happens.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 7:19:58 PM

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Strike a deal with him.. if he puts on a hot and heave show for you with another guy, say you'll reciprocate.

As far as I"m concerned, jerking someone's sexuality around for kicks is dangerous (mentally)

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 7:47:57 PM

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I would think he is after you submission without question, and while that is good and well it is only given due to the sub trusting our actions, in this case you are not comfortable and although I commend you on your desire to please him, you need to have some say in this. There are a few subs that do not eother want or need the ability to do so, however, if you feel you need to on this site, it is essential for your D/s relationship this matter is in the open.

Eventually hopefully you will have sufficient trust not to question this, but in the meantime communication and honesty is the key.

I trust this is of some help

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 8:18:22 PM

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If you don't enjoy it, make sure all concerned know this up front. If the other girl seems unwilling, doubly so -- don't be a party to violating another sub's boundaries. I am with those who have reservations about this. Don't try to fake it/pretend to enjoy it or you risk hurting the other girl's feelings as well as doing violence to your sense of sexual identity. If he so wants to see girl/girl action, he can rent pornos. If he so wants to test your devotion, there are other ways that don't fuck so deeply with your psyche and so greatly risk blowing up not only in your faces but in the faces of 2 other people. (I question the judgement of doms who keep wanting to test devotion to this degree anyway, it comes across as insecure and/or emotionally sadistic).

I am bi AND an exhibitionist, and I dislike putting on girl/girl shows for men, even with women I am interested in (who are of course seldom the women the guys want to set this up with). It just does not seem respectful to me, it has an aura of peep shows and guys in trenchcoats drooling. Yick.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/5/2008 8:20:38 PM

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You said you and your master were going to meet the other couple to be sure there is a chemistry there and you both would like one another. If you really do not want to do it and she can notice this when you first meet, she may back away. If you like her and want to go forward call her and discuss it with her. Find out what she wants and likes.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 2:53:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: jenf

My Master wants to meet up with another D/s couple, we actually have made plans to meet, but He won't tell me what he has in mind...i do know He wants to see f/f action...and i will do that for Him, because i know it excites Him, but i don't actually like it myself. Please, men, what do You expect a couple submissive women to actually DO with each other? What do the men do while the women are busy? What is the big attraction?

I don't get what the big deal about fem/fem action is either, despite it allegedly being "every man's fantasy".... pffft

I much prefer the simpler viewing pleasures of having the girl remove her panties after I've tied her hands behind.... Tomayto; tomarto....

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 5:30:37 AM

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MstrJ69

I totally agree with you.It is the best advice given.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 9:11:09 AM

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You don't think her feelings will be hurt if she's kissing and stroking you and you show absolutely zero interest?

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 9:18:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Now let's see...

They can 69 each other.

One of them can switch and tie up the other and flog her tits. Or maybe cane her between the thighs.

Then I can tie them to each other and whip them together. Back-to-back is nice, but so is tits-to-tits.

Or I can lace two pairs of nipple clamps through the O-rings in the collars so that they can't step away from each other without a little twinge of agony. Edited to add: Oh, an even better idea: give each one a little crotch-rope tie (back behind the ass and then up between the lips and over the clit), and secure the ends of each one tightly to the other one's collar, so that when either one moves she ends up abrading the other's clit.

Or I can make one of them straddle the other's face and grind on her while I fuck her from behind. Or, hell, why not tie their ankles and wrists in that position just so that they can't move?

Need more ideas?

quote:

ORIGINAL: jenf

What do the men do while the women are busy? What is the big attraction?

That's just hot.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 9:33:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jenf

i did do it once before, it didn't disgust me...it just doesn't turn me on. at all. ...what should i actually DO???? ...i have asked Him, he seems to think nature will take its course.

If being with another woman does not turn you on at all, then that is your nature. Yet our Dom expects 'nature to take it's course' and you be turned on and enjoy being with another woman. I think your Dom is being unrealistic and unconcerned with you as a person. It is not acceptable in my view is to ask your sub to do something that does not come naturally to them without direction and proper support in it. He is leaving you floundering.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 10:43:19 AM

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You folks are planning to exhange std scans with one another, I hope? All four of you in case the doms decide to switch girls? And presumably you've discussed that too? Because condoms don't stop everything. Let's see, female condom, dental dams, gloves. Has he thought about that?

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 5:20:43 PM

LotusSong

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jenf

My Master wants to meet up with another D/s couple, we actually have made plans to meet, but He won't tell me what he has in mind...i do know He wants to see f/f action...and i will do that for Him, because i know it excites Him, but i don't actually like it myself. Please, men, what do You expect a couple submissive women to actually DO with each other? What do the men do while the women are busy? What is the big attraction?

Here's a thought.... when a submissive does something "just to please her/his master/mistress.. isn't that much like a vanilla woman/man doing D/s just to please her/his partner? Think about it gang.... If the submissive's desire does not match yours.. you are just blowing smoke...

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 6:10:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

I don't get what the big deal about fem/fem action is either, despite it allegedly being "every man's fantasy".... pffft

I much prefer the simpler viewing pleasures of having the girl remove her panties after I've tied her hands behind.... Tomayto; tomarto....

Focus.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/6/2008 7:06:17 PM

Stephann

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ORIGINAL: branbran77

Im agreeing with the above also....talk to him.....do u really want to be with another female?? If u bi-curious then great...if not or if uv tried it before and didnt like it i dont see the need to......

Not every activity I expect of my slave is going to be enjoyable to her. In fact, I occasionally have her do things I know she doesn't enjoy. It's an opportunity to remind her that she exists for my pleasure. This is something we've discussed often, and is an important element of our dynamic to us both.

Jen,

I suggest the 'actually doing' part be light, relaxed fun. Dance with her, laugh with her, tease her flirt with her. When the moment feels right, just kiss her. Touch her face, touch her hair, and try to make her feel special. From there, all you really need to ask yourself is "what would I enjoy?"

Stephan

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/7/2008 9:07:02 AM

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Doing something you don't enjoy is one thing. Doing something that makes you feel ill and nauseous is something else. Doing something that hurts an innocent party's feelings is unforgivable. The woman in the other couple is a real person, she doesn't deserve to have somebody forced to have sex with her, showing her the whole time how much she isn't desired. And forcing this very often brings the end of the relationship. Is testing her worth losing her?

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/7/2008 9:16:15 AM

Stephann

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Hi Celeste,

I think that makes a lot of assumptions about the girl in the other couple. I do agree, it's not wise to subject others to an uncomfortable and difficult situation, and that's something I've encountered with charlotte (in her feeling 'weird' when there are other people present, yet she's very much wanting to follow through and be pleasing.) Still, this doesn't mean the activity shouldn't take place. Reminding her that she is doing this for my pleasure is exactly what makes the activity tolerable; nay, enjoyable. In part, it's why we prefer to play with others who are D/s aware, and we tend to explain the situation more in depth before any sort of play takes place.

A bottle of Grey Goose helped immensely in the past, as well. Now she's at a point where it's not necessary.

Regards,

Stephan

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/7/2008 9:38:03 AM

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Sounds like a decent recipe for a poly house to me. If f1 loved M1, and then found f2 attractive, what a nice pound cake for all 3. Why throw out the yeast? Now there seems to be a problem. It is that f1 + f2 have been talking far too much. Like they are WWWAAAAAY past their 25,000 word per day limit. Both of them needed "something" stuffed in their oral cavaties to curb the damaging agent. Damaging agent = female tongue. Sorry, just couldn't resist.

On a more genteel note, I do agree with the tenure and tone of the posts. I believe that HE is just wanting a novice attempt at testing HIS subs commitment level and submission at large. If she is not bi, he is square pegging a round hole, and either the hole or the peg are going to be damaged. Perhaps damage to the point that either or both are no longer usable or compatible for anything other than burning.

I say yes rent porn, sit down with popcorn and chocolate pudding, watch it with subbie and move on to another tantalizing fantasy.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I actually knew them very well and the marriage was better than most. The wife just realized that being with a woman felt "more right" after she experienced it.

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/7/2008 9:44:04 AM

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quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Now let's see...

They can 69 each other.

One of them can switch and tie up the other and flog her tits. Or maybe cane her between the thighs.

Then I can tie them to each other and whip them together. Back-to-back is nice, but so is tits-to-tits.

Or I can lace two pairs of nipple clamps through the O-rings in the collars so that they can't step away from each other without a little twinge of agony. Edited to add: Oh, an even better idea: give each one a little crotch-rope tie (back behind the ass and then up between the lips and over the clit), and secure the ends of each one tightly to the other one's collar, so that when either one moves she ends up abrading the other's clit.

Or I can make one of them straddle the other's face and grind on her while I fuck her from behind. Or, hell, why not tie their ankles and wrists in that position just so that they can't move?

Need more ideas?

quote:

ORIGINAL: jenf

What do the men do while the women are busy? What is the big attraction?

That's just hot.

you got to this before i did - it's waaaay hot

gemmie

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RE: f/f action for Master's pleasure - 3/7/2008 9:49:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: mrmorpheuslunar

Sounds like a decent recipe for a poly house to me.

Or a recipe for disasters. Nobody can predict how these encounters will go, and sometimes, well, they slip into unknown territory. Especially if one individual's less than certain they want to go ahead with it. I suggest careful, babysteps. But that's just me.

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