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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:04:52 PM

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Could that same food be used to feed say-fifty humans instead?

I guess that depends on how big the humans are.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:06:16 PM

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Infact, we are taught to injure if possible, kill as a last resort; anything that tries to kill us. Anyone who isnt dead when the bullets stop flying, we actually help out to save their lives, enemy or not.

This "marine" should be fried. and by fried I mean complete reduction in rank, brig time of at least a year, and a dishonorable discharge.

And war is not an excuse, but until you have been there or experienced anything similar, you cant say anything. Ive seen a D&D nerd that never harmed a soul come back from war and wind up damn near killing his wife when she raised a knife at him (not in threat). Before he was deployed, he worshipped her and they never had any problems. Now he is divorced from her because she had someone elses kid after she couldnt handle how profoundly different and violent he became (he never hit her again, but did plent of damage to the rest of the house).

So in short, war is not an excuse, but it is a reason.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:08:25 PM

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So in short, war is not an excuse, but it is a reason.

War is bad. I wish war would stop.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:12:46 PM

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i do luxuriate in a good steak!! But given i am a financially challenged single parent, i usually just politely beg my Mother who owns about 200 acres, and raises her own cows, chickens!! Now if i am in need of some bacon my brother has the hogs covered down the road a ways...... course he needs to feed those twelve children he and his wife adopted from foster care!!! If nothing else ...... Ramon Noodles fill my belly!!!

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:12:56 PM

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So in short, war is not an excuse, but it is a reason.

War is bad. I wish war would stop.

The Hopeless Idealist.

Same here.

But it gets my hackles up when people from "the land of disney" get all upset over an animal-And don't bat an eye when they hear about little children getting blown to bits and burned alive

That almost sucks more than war.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:16:16 PM

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But it gets my hackles up when people from "the land of disney" get all upset over an animal-And don't bat an eye when they hear about little children getting blown to bits and burned alive

That almost sucks more than war.

How, pray tell, did you come to this conclusion?

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:19:02 PM

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This hair splitting is pissing me off-I'm going to go do something fun instead.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:20:40 PM

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Same here.

But it gets my hackles up when people from "the land of disney" get all upset over an animal-And don't bat an eye when they hear about little children getting blown to bits and burned alive

That almost sucks more than war.

Again, I agree with you that it feels like people have their priorities skewed at times... the difference may be that, as it's rare to see videos of soldiers brutalising people (yet, we all know it happens), people find it easier to empathize with a small animal. People like to have their blinders on, and to ignore the horrible reality of war. It's hard to think of the innocent civilians who get blown up in wars. Many Iraqi civilians died and are dying in this conflict. Many have been tortured, and women raped, and other horrible things.

Still makes that marine a fucktard.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:21:14 PM

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I don't recall ANYONE saying that killing an animal is in ANYWAY worse than killing people.
But the topic of this thread was about that video.

Or did I miss something?

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:22:29 PM

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I think Leatherist and I are trying to put suffering in perspective... a difficult thing to do. Mindless suffering is never justifiable, unfortunately :-( .

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:23:35 PM

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I thought you were having fun, with the unjustified accusations and all. My bad.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:26:05 PM

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i do Pug rescue and i have seen some horrid things with puppymills and backyard breeders and so on. But this really hurt me so badly that i really cannot stop crying and i have an incredible rage right now. What drives a person to behave in such a way that they would do something like this? Would he do it to a child? It sickens me and he should be put down, drawn and quartered by the use of 4 Jeeps. People like him are a plague upon humanity.

i am seriously irritated by this now. Is there a petition or something to get this bastard strung up and hung?

Sorry for the rant.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:27:08 PM

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I get that, KS... I just fail to see how Leatherist apparently concludes that those of us horrified by that video are any less horrified by the death of non-combatants...

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:29:16 PM

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I feel sick.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:31:54 PM

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I get that, KS... I just fail to see how Leatherist apparently concludes that those of us horrified by that video are any less horrified by the death of non-combatants...

Because he's a US soldier.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:31:58 PM

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i am seriously irritated by this now. Is there a petition or something to get this bastard strung up and hung?

Sorry for the rant.

~bella~

dont worry about the pertition, the USMC will probably do worse to him then you would. after all, it has an image to keep, and when ever we fuck up the media jumps all over it. but it is well deserved, considering the level of professionalism we are supposed to maintain and uphold

theleatherist: hes not a soldier. hes a marine, and not for long either.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:33:47 PM

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Nod... if that's what he did to a puppy, I shudder to think what he'd do to a human being. It's abhorrent, and war makes people do disgusting things they probably wouldn't do otherwise.

Although what he did was cruel to the puppy (if this actually is a video that hasn't been doctored), I want the cruel ones in the service defending the US.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:34:33 PM

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I did not have to read the OP to know what this was about. I saw it on "Nancy Grace" this evening. This marine is in huge trouble.
There are several things that can get him, but the one thing that keeps coming to mind is conduct unbecoming of a marine. That charge is a Court Martial.
He is done.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:37:51 PM

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It's a dog.
They are doing far worse to PEOPLE over there.

Perhaps you can explain how one is more important then the other?
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You are right - it probably would have been applauded by 2 or 3 billion people if he had chucked a certain leader of the free world over the edge.

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RE: Marines and a puppy - 3/5/2008 8:41:21 PM

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It's a dog.
They are doing far worse to PEOPLE over there.

Perhaps you can explain how one is more important then the other?
k

You are right - it probably would have been applauded by 2 or 3 billion people if he had chucked a certain leader of the free world over the edge.