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ORIGINAL: came4U
Men shouldn't do housework period..only a gay man does housework.

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Men shouldn't do housework period..only a gay man does housework.  It is a woman's job. Besides, I wouldn't want a man disorganizing my system of cleaning.

My son does no chores.  The way it should be. If I asked him to take out the garbage he would look at me like I was an alien.

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ORIGINAL: Passion357

Greetings, All,

[sm=biggrin.gif]Orion, Ron, Smith...

I could not stop laughing and I KNOW you guys are serious... Err not surprising to find you on a "men who clean more get more sex" thread.

As for me.. I try to make it known when I see Master in the kitchen cooking or cleaning, or maybe vacuuming the den, or wiping down a mirror..how HOTT HOT HOTTT I think it is. So.. when I have been a good girl [:D] just maybe he will do something along these lines to cause that glazed over look in my eyes that he knows will happen.

Or.. he could just come home covered in grease from work, throw me in the floor and have his way.....

Well Wishes,
~Passion~

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ORIGINAL: zerosignal

Here's a counterpoint to the article's introduction.  The author criticizes men for not "pulling their weight" at home.  However, I don't think many people would seriously dispute that men, in general, work harder jobs, longer hours, and much more overtime.  Further, men work these extra hours in jobs that afford them less personal freedom in terms of their lives outside work, and men also fill the great majority of jobs that involve the risk of death or serious personal injury.   Unless this greater share of breadwinning responsibility is accounted for (and from the article's tone, it doesn't seem like it was), then we're left with a distorted view of who is "pulling their weight," and how.

It seems only fair for men to expect some measure of trade-off to account for their extra contributions outside the home in the workplace.  To look at how house chores are distributed without accounting for how work hours are alloted undervalues men's contributions to the household.  In addition, it may leave men in a position to unfairly bear most of the burden in a family-- they work more hours at inflexible and in some cases dangerous jobs, only to come home and have to make an "equal" contribution to the housework.  In my own relationship, my field of work requires 60-70 hour weeks doing onerous (but not dangerous) work, while my girlfriend's field allows her overwhelmingly greater flexibility in her work, and far fewer hours.  Both of us acknowledge that splitting the housework 50-50 is hardly "enlightened," given that difference.

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ORIGINAL: zerosignal

Here's a counterpoint to the article's introduction. The author criticizes men for not "pulling their weight" at home. However, I don't think many people would seriously dispute that men, in general, work harder jobs, longer hours, and much more overtime. Further, men work these extra hours in jobs that afford them less personal freedom in terms of their lives outside work, and men also fill the great majority of jobs that involve the risk of death or serious personal injury. Unless this greater share of breadwinning responsibility is accounted for (and from the article's tone, it doesn't seem like it was), then we're left with a distorted view of who is "pulling their weight," and how.

It seems only fair for men to expect some measure of trade-off to account for their extra contributions outside the home in the workplace. To look at how house chores are distributed without accounting for how work hours are alloted undervalues men's contributions to the household. In addition, it may leave men in a position to unfairly bear most of the burden in a family-- they work more hours at inflexible and in some cases dangerous jobs, only to come home and have to make an "equal" contribution to the housework. In my own relationship, my field of work requires 60-70 hour weeks doing onerous (but not dangerous) work, while my girlfriend's field allows her overwhelmingly greater flexibility in her work, and far fewer hours. Both of us acknowledge that splitting the housework 50-50 is hardly "enlightened," given that difference.

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ORIGINAL: Griswold

I was going to brag, but after I'd come out of the hospital (a friend of mine and his wife were having a horrible time in their marriage...it seems he was a tad on the small side....so I had a doctor surgically give him half of mine...and...) still recovering somewhat, I was going by one of my favorite fishing streams, and lo and behold....I saw the BIGGEST damned trout I EVER saw!!!!

So anyway...still a little woozy from all the meds....I turned down my car stereo, which was already rattling car windows 3 blocks away (didn't want to scare the sucker away now...), found a safe place to park my 2008 Lamborghini, straddled over to the riverbed and reached right in and grabbed that motherfucker with my bare hands.

163 damn pounds it was....put up a hell of a fight too.