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Paulsgirl -> RE: Difference between subs and slaves (3/8/2008 5:37:44 PM)
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Dear Ladyhugs: so nice to see you and your very attentive postings.
Here are my thoughts on what you have contributed as i have made the transition from sub to slave.(i think, i hope, i believe).
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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs
Dear Strictyetnice, Ladies and Gentlemen;
For me, personally-- the differences between submissive and slaves are the following:
Submissives, still have their journey in finding their total state of bliss/happiness. They will be able to negotiate their wants, needs, boundaries and things that they seek for their own personal gain, knowledge, skills and finding what things within the Dominant and submissive dynamic that will fill the empty cup that they have and yet not totally identified and or recognized, until they have experimented with a vast amount of varieties and styles of the entire 'general' scene; be it BDSM, S&M, D/s and or M/s.
I also believe that subs do this by a process of making themselves able to 'receive' new experiences, sensations. What they receive is at the behest of their dominant or domme.
Slaves, have accumilated what they have from their journey and now able to identify what creates the spiritual peace and contentment, safety and validation--to include appreciation for their authentic self. The barriers, the walls that had been applied in the experimental stage no longer are needed as to feel free to be themselves and, inpowered now--they can choose who best fits their mental, emotional, spiritual and physical self in the role as 'slave.'
I also agree with this. And for me the role of being able to choose was at last embodied in my abilities to serve, whether or not there is anything given by my Master, and most of all in my willingness to serve in the absence of anything being given, wheter it be sensation, attention, favour or experience.
It is my belief that submissives and slaves must be able to give of themselves with quality and not quantity. Some individuals can not give a blank check to Dominants, thus some would see them more submissive than slave. Perhaps the fit isn't exact and yet has growing to do in that relationship with that certain Dominant. However, it is such great relief to some, to be able to hand over to a Dominant, all their worries, doubts, control, trust and love, to include the safety and well being of their emotional, mental, spiritual and physical self, over to a Dominant that has proven through consistancy--not promises alone; to be that special Dominant that provides that slave that safe place to fall into and enjoy the freedoms of the confines of what 'slave' means to them and their Dominant partner.
Yes: i discuss my failings, my wishes to be free, my longings, my needs and indeed i also discuss my disrespect and need to dismiss myself. i also discuss my spirituality, my beliefs and indeed my love for Him. i am entirely free except that He does not give me permission to release myself from my slavery.
As others have stated truthfully, it really boils down to individual tastes, views on what defines a submissive, slave, Dominant, Master, etc. The ultimate goal, is to have a partner for a life time and grow and have peace at last with someone who appreciates you as much as you appreciate them.
Just some thoughts.
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
Thank you as always for your considered responses.
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