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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 5:26:11 AM   
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Thank goddess we are almost free from this fool. Lets hope the Chinese, Korean, and Japanese don't team up to try to shut up the middle east and U.S.A. Please goddess let the next president fix all bush's problems and make the world love us again.


The only time "the world loves" the U.S. is when we're giving them money/immigration or something else.


Yeah, my instant thought was 'when did the world love us?'  Seems we're always the bad guy, regardless of who's in office. 

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 7:58:22 AM   
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My opinion on Bush is very simple. He was nothing more than a puppet but should still be held responsible. For those who remember the movie heavy metal the court room scene expresses my feelings. Hanging is to good for him burning is to good for him cut him into little pieces and bury him ALIVE! nuf said 

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 8:11:04 AM   
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Yeah, my instant thought was 'when did the world love us?'  Seems we're always the bad guy, regardless of who's in office. 


Roosevelt. Post WWII, the west was positively in love with America, this pretty much lasted until the sixties and Vietnam. Europe started questioning the US in the Johnson Presidency, British Prime Minister Harold Wilson refusing to send troops to Vietnam because he said, it was a colonial war, the Vietnamese fighting for freedom more than communism. The Nixon administration saw the bottom fall out of Europe being in love with America, mainly due to Kissinger and his policy initiatives of bombing Cambodia to kingdom come and his cosying up to any old right wing murdering Latin American dictator as long as they were anti-communist. It didn't even matter if the communists were voted in like Chile, America prefered murdering dictators to democratically elected communists. A little detente and opening relations wit China was seen as positive but not enough to counteract the other policies. Carter was seen as positive in Europe, a decent sort of leader after the venal (mainly due to Kissinger me thinks) Nixon administration. Alas, he was seen as too decent by Americans, he empathized and saw the complexity of the world and was blamed for stuff he inherited rather than anything that was his fault. Reagan came on the scene and had a lot of luck. The Iranians deciding to hand back the hostages and the Soviet Union collapsing, all of which he claimed but most people guffawing at this conceit and realizing he was just lucky to be there when this happened. The Contra fiasco just reminded people the American government hadn't changed and they prefered any venal rightwing government to a moderate left one that put people before business. Clinton made the world feel at ease for the most part, he wasn't about to go off and do some thing stupid or venal and despite his short comings, he was likeable and gave the US a likeable image. As for Bush, weeell. There is nothing worse than a gutless coward who didn't have the bottle to fight himself, sending others to fight what is largely seen as an illegal war. Hell, everyone was behind him on Afghanistan, it was seen as a legimate invasion. However when he kept going on about Iraq, people looked closer and then they noticed those Strausian disciples, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle and it became all to clear what sort of administration was in charge of the US.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 12:08:37 PM   
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I saw Heavy Metal but don't remember it.

OK, you can't stomach killing the kids ? Well after cutting the adults into little pieces perhaps we place the children in better homes. Like with welfare Mothers in the inner city. They might have a chance of learning some values there. Make them dirt poor like their Parents made us and ours.

After reading about GWB's history, I doubt he has ever earned a dime in his life.

Someone mention the "hostages" in Iran. Has anyone wondered why there were hostages in Iran ? See I am bipartisan, for those whose minds it may have slipped, the Iranians seized the embassy because Carter protected the Shah. When the people of a foreign country sieze an embassy, that is not taken upon lightly by even the most radical of groups. They wanted the Shah back, as he had a trial to face. Carter refused. That Shah musta been a real nice guy eh ? Gimme a break.

I must admit, while GWB is exceptionally bad, we haven't had a good President for a long time. I can't say he was the stupidest, I think JFK might have him on that, but otherwise may have been a better President overall. If you are stupid enough to threaten the Prime Minister of Israel and then go riding around in a convertible in Texas, you might need one of those "stupid" signs.

Reagan really didn't do much. I must admit he had a good personality, and in the days when the government botches up damnear everything they do, the less they do the better.

IMO the best President would be one who vetos almost everything. That's what I like about Ron Paul, but he is not going to make it. We have enough laws, in fact too many.

While I don't want it to happen, Hillary might get in. If that happens Chelsea Clinton will be the first ever to say that BOTH of her Parents have been President of the US. Wonder when she turns 35, this could turn into a family tradition.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 12:52:45 PM   
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One tiny bright spot in the whole Bush shit: the "War on Terror" deflected his plans for starting a new witch hunt: this one aimed squarely at us, the alt-sex crowd. I don't know if many of you remember the hints of what was about to happen with Ashcroft pre-9/11, but we were all in their sights as surely as an old lawyer was in Cheaney's.

Let's see... Bush's greatest hits... the fuckups that are attributable directly to him:

1. Bush announces his policies for an "ownership society." The lending industry responds by making home loans available to more Americans who couldn't afford them. Result: the sub-prime crisis. Economic disaster.

2. Responding to pressure from the fanatical religious right, Bush bans all research into stem cells. The leading scientists of this line of inquiry immediately move overseas to continue their lifes work... in europe and in Japan. Result: all major breakthroughs in this medical boon belong to other countries... America falls behind.

3. Bush's tax cuts/rebate: they eliminate the budget surplus created under the Clinton years, and plunges the US into massive deficit spending. All of the taxes favor the upper 2% of income earners. Thus, the bag is being left to the middle class, who will be paying back their average $325 rebate for the next three decades, probably beyond their retirement ages.

4. Iran.
   a. wrong country
   b. lied about yellowcake uranium
   c. ignored the recommendations about troop strength needed for the occupation. Also used Powell to lie to the UN. Stood up before the UN, and said "Fuck you!"
   d. "mission accomplished"
   e. Four years later, the troops STILL don't have body armor, or armored vehicles.
   f. stop gap deployments, running our troops ragged.
   g. cutting the funding for medical care for returning wounded
   h. no bid contract for Haliburton
   i. Halliburton "mislays" 12 billion dollars.
   j. 5,000 American dead, 60,000 Iraqi civilians dead. (est.)
   k. the whole debacle is financed by loand from China and Japan. 338 billion so far, with us spending an average of 12 billion a month.

5. Bush places Brown, a man totally unqualified for running such an office, in charge of FEMA. Katrina happens. No response from the federal government for two weeks. Hundreds die from exposure that didn't have to. "You're doing a great job, Brownie."

6. The PATRIOT ACT (1&2) and the PROTECT AMERICA ACT. Basically an emergency expansion of powers, we are told that the wiretapping, illegal searches and extraordinary renditions will only be temporary. Now, realizing that this could come back to haunt him after office, Bush is pushing for immunity of the telecoms, and by extension, himself.

7. America as a torture state. People have been kidnapped off the street, flown to other countries and tortured. We may never know how many. Waterboarding happens. People discuss if this is torture or not. They ignore the other forms of torture displayed in the Abu Ghraib photos. (Photos, that those involved in their release, say are the mild stuff.) No one seems to give a shit, they think it's all just terror suspects.

8. Gitmo. Bushs personal torture Disneyland. Suspension of the Constitutional right of hebeas corpus. Six years on, and these "enemy combatants" have not received legal representation, tribunals, or even charges against them. All in total defiance of the US Constitution.

9. "Let's teach both, and let the students decide." KS tries to handicap children by teaching "intelligent design" in science classes. Bush supports the idea despite it's obvious fallacy. As a result, the religious right nutcases are STILL wasting time and money by trying to introduce it into other rural, backward states.

10. Early on, Bush links international aid to abstinence. No emergency medical funding for the 3rd world nations who dare to give their female patients choice. No abortion, no family planning, no pre or post natal care for millions.

11. Bush ignores Darfur.

12. Bush ignores global warming, insists that we all call it "Natural Climate Change" Later backs off a bit and says, "Climate Change." Refuses to be part of the Kyoto Accords.

13. Despite an obvious mandate from the people, Bush ignores their will and pushes for a surge in troop levels. Yes, it may have worked temporarily, but there are already signs that the surge is beginning to fail. Violence in Iraq is now creeping up to pre-surge levels. Today (3/10/08) is reported to be one of the most deadly days for our troops since before the "war" was declared over.

14. Bush doubles the national debt. Between the loans from overseas to fund his "hobby war" and the tax cuts that hobble the cash flow, America is now $9.3 TRILLION dollars in debt. ($9,300,000,000,000.00) It's easier to write in scientific notation. In debt. Now and forever and ever, amen.







bipolarber, to that I'd add, Refused to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws thus making Big Business even more money.

What's with #11, "Bush ignores Darfur?"
What does Darfur have to do with the U.S.?
And as for "Kyoto" the U.S. senate voted against that by 99 to 1 and I'm glad they did. Giving the "U.N." more money will *never* solve "Global Warming", "Global weather change" or whatever they're calling it this week.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 1:12:16 PM   
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What a disaster!  The long term consequences will be with us for years.  The eroding economic situation and over-burdened infrastructure makes the USA more vunerable to attack not less vunerable.  And we have major international political fallout from this clusterfuck; strained relations with allies and turned other countries against us entirely. 


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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 11:06:58 PM   
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Bush did some good things, Bush did some bad things.


OK, I'll bite.
 
Unless you own an oil company or are part of the military industrial complex, what good things has President Bush done?
 
I hope we have interfaced enough on here for you to realize that I mean this as a serious question, and that no "snark" is intended.  


caitlyn,

Hey, you can snark, and I'd still answer you, even if I am burning the candle at both ends here now ...

Offhand, for the long term, I would say that Bush has done three sterling services to the nation:

1.  Two excellent Supreme Court judges,

2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)

3. He has pointed out the dangers of "multiculturalism run amok", and has been steadfast in focusing on anti-democratic tendencies within the world culture.  This may end up being his most important contribution to not only the US, but civilization.

There are others, but I'm pretty burned out right now.

Firm


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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/11/2008 11:08:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Bush did some good things, Bush did some bad things.


OK, I'll bite.
 
Unless you own an oil company or are part of the military industrial complex, what good things has President Bush done?
 
I hope we have interfaced enough on here for you to realize that I mean this as a serious question, and that no "snark" is intended.  


caitlyn,

Hey, you can snark, and I'd still answer you, even if I am burning the candle at both ends here now ...

Offhand, for the long term, I would say that Bush has done three sterling services to the nation:

1.  Two excellent Supreme Court judges,

2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)

3. He has pointed out the dangers of "multiculturalism run amok", and has been steadfast in focusing on anti-democratic tendencies within the world culture.  This may end up being his most important contribution to not only the US, but civilization.

There are others, but I'm pretty burned out right now.

Firm



This.  I agree with this.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 12:39:36 AM   
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2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)



So lying and starting illegal wars and creating more ME chaos than there was before and having a substantial amount of allies distancing themselves from the US because of the smell coming out of the Whitehouse is keeping a more orderly world?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ha!!!!

Now I've just gone and pissed myself with laughing so much because I really think you believe that load of crap.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 8:10:51 AM   
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2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)



So lying and starting illegal wars and creating more ME chaos than there was before and having a substantial amount of allies distancing themselves from the US because of the smell coming out of the Whitehouse is keeping a more orderly world?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ha!!!!

Now I've just gone and pissed myself with laughing so much because I really think you believe that load of crap.


You are engaged - as always - in short term, ideological-based thinking, meatcleaver.  Par for course.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 8:38:05 AM   
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well, i don't think Roberts is too bad......

Alito is a fuckwad:
Doe v. Groody
Glass v. Philadelphia Electric Company
are a couple come to mind.

Multiculturalism (in what the word actually means), is all cultures on even footing, with no culture having clear advantage or control.  It would be rather hard for that sort of situation to be classed in 'amok' catagories.

the other point.......just, nah.

So, he hasn't done much other than unravel some really hard fought gains and destabilized alot of things in the world and for us, driven us into debt, and so on.

Not much good in 8 years, pretty much all bad.

Ron
 

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 8:38:22 AM   
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1.  Two excellent Supreme Court judges,

That's some strange criteria you have. If there is one part of the Bush presidency that must wait before passing judgement it has to be these two judges. In the short term neither is the sort of embarassment that Thomas has been and Miers almost certainly would have been but that is really all that can be said.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 9:00:03 AM   
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Well, point one is somewhat subjective. I can't say that I have any real objection to Chief Justice Roberts, but Chief Justice Alito sways a bit to far towards the power of the Presidency for my tastes.
 
Point two, I will completely differ on. I would imagine the rest of the world was well aware of the military might of the United States. The notion that we would use it when our interests dictate should be pretty clear, after having practiced this policy for over two-hundred years. Any gain from this "reminder" was lost in the idea as percieved by the world, that the United States used it's power wrecklessly. Debating if it was or wasn't wreckless is a topic for another post ... a reminder is perception, and if you are going to consider the perception of the reminder, you have to also consider the perception of wreckless behavior.
 
As this relates to Americans, again we need not discuss specific points of faulty intelligence, etc ... as this will just lead us off target. The overriding truth is that many, possibly most, Americans feel that war should be a last alternative, only to be used when all else fails. Slow to anger, some might say. I think even those willing to keep an open mind on the reason we went to war, might point out that the rush to war went against what has been established as as the will of the American people.
 
Point three is something that has been the path of the nation for quite some time. I don't really feel this is something that President Bush can hang his hat on ... although I will yield the accuracy of your point. The question then becomes, is this what the nation really wants? If you took a poll of Americans, how many do you suppose would be willing to spare one life for the spead of democracy? Many might feel it is our system, that works well in our republic, and have no further goals.
 
Thank you for the response.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 9:10:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Bush did some good things, Bush did some bad things.


OK, I'll bite.
 
Unless you own an oil company or are part of the military industrial complex, what good things has President Bush done?
 
I hope we have interfaced enough on here for you to realize that I mean this as a serious question, and that no "snark" is intended.  


caitlyn,

Hey, you can snark, and I'd still answer you, even if I am burning the candle at both ends here now ...

Offhand, for the long term, I would say that Bush has done three sterling services to the nation:

1.  Two excellent Supreme Court judges,

2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)

3. He has pointed out the dangers of "multiculturalism run amok", and has been steadfast in focusing on anti-democratic tendencies within the world culture.  This may end up being his most important contribution to not only the US, but civilization.

There are others, but I'm pretty burned out right now.

Firm


Hey!  You got out of the really hard work. 

Let me help you, sweetheart:

Budget, Taxes & Economy

Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.

Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.

Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.

In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.

Signed trade promotion authority.

Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.

Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.

Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.

Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.

Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.

Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.

Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.

Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.

Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Education & Employment Training

Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations).

Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.

Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)

Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.

Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.

Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.

Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.

Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.

Environment & Energy

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.

Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Defense & Foreign Policy

Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Saddam Hussein is now dead. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.

Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.

Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.

Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.

Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.

Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.

Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.

Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.

Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.

Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.

Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.

Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.

Ordered a review of overseas deployments.

Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.

Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization & Internationalism

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*

The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.

Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Government Reform

Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.

Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.

Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*

Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.

Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

Health

Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free.

Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health.

Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:

A 10-year privatization option.

Prescription drug benefits: Prior to this reform, Medicare paid for extended hospital stays for ulcer surgery, for example, at a cost of about $28,000 per patient. Yet Medicare would not pay for the drugs that eliminate the cause of most ulcers, drugs that cost about $500 a year. Now, drug coverage under Medicare will allow seniors to replace more expensive surgeries and hospitalizations with less expensive prescription medicine.

More health care choices: As President Bush stated, "…when seniors have the ability to make choices, health care plans within Medicare will have to compete for their business by offering higher quality service [at lower cost]. For the seniors of America, more choices and more control will mean better health care. These are the kinds of health care options we give to the members of Congress and federal employees. What's good for members of Congress is also good for seniors.

New Health Savings Accounts: Effective January 1, 2004, Americans can set aside up to $4,500 every year, tax free, to save for medical expenses. Depending on your tax bracket, that means you'll save between 10 to 35 percent on any costs covered by money in your account. Every year, the money not spent would stay in the account and gain interest tax-free, just like an IRA. These accounts will be good for small business owners, and employees. More businesses can focus on covering workers for major medical problems, such as hospitalization for an injury or illness. At the same time, employees and their families will use these accounts to cover doctors visits, or lab tests, or other smaller costs. Some employers will contribute to employee health accounts. This will help more American families get the health care they need at the price they can afford.

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

*See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.

Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).

Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.

The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.

Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.

Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.

Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.

This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.

Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.

Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.

Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.

Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Judiciary & Tort Reform

Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.

Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.

Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Politics

His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.

Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.

Second Amendment

Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

*See Globalization & Internationalism.

Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism

Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."

Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.

Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.

The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved.

Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.

Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.

Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.

*Please note that some of the above may be out-of-date.  This is from a list created by supporters of Bush and as they aren't here to tell you why they feel the President is doing a good job, I thought I'd let their words speak for them.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 9:20:49 AM   
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I'll try to be fair.
 
There are some good things there, no doubt about it.
 
There are quite a few that were in the works from the previous administration, and are simply signoff points ... this can be said of any President, and of course President Bush could have checked the NO box, so credit is due.
 
Most are spin.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 9:51:57 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

2. He has reminded the rest of the world (especially the more sordid rulers and tyrants of the world) that the US does indeed have limits and can "move their world" quite rapidly if the mood strikes.

While some may see this as a negative, in the world of real politic, this is a very important lesson in maintaining a more orderly and peaceful world.  Don't underestimate it. (In the dog eat dog of internation politics, it's better to be feared than loved.)



So lying and starting illegal wars and creating more ME chaos than there was before and having a substantial amount of allies distancing themselves from the US because of the smell coming out of the Whitehouse is keeping a more orderly world?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ha!!!!

Now I've just gone and pissed myself with laughing so much because I really think you believe that load of crap.


You are engaged - as always - in short term, ideological-based thinking, meatcleaver.  Par for course.

Firm



You mentioned real politics which Kissinger espoused which involved bombing Cambodia to smithereens. One just has to laugh at such a concept that creates more chaos than order.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 10:12:53 AM   
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very few actual people see this list as an accurate representation of outcome or of positive end results, or a good hing, or bringing hope or advancement for the future.

Not only that, but what he, 'was gonna do' don't hardly count for nothing.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 11:00:56 AM   
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I'll tackle this monster.  I might not respond to all, as I hardly claim to be an expert on Bush's policy....

Hey!  You got out of the really hard work. 

Let me help you, sweetheart:

Budget, Taxes & Economy

Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.

Dramatically increasing the rate with which our debt increases, which will ultimately (and clearly) be borne by our children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren.

Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.

Which affects the richest of Americans, most heavily.  I'm anti-class warfare, but as I mentioned, we're already in debt, with most of the government money having gone into the pockets of that much aligned Military Industrial complex, in support of Bush's wars.

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.

Erm, an economy that thrived before he took office; Bush happened to be in the drivers seat during 9/11.

Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.

Meaning the President can hold the budget hostage, approving only what he feels he likes, and further delaying the possibility of a balanced budget.

In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Meaning he only supports social engineering when it helps people who practice marriage.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.

By ensuring more money goes into the hands of big contractors, so that they might be more willing to trickle that money down to their friends.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Because the general Social Security fund has already been robbed to pay for his other, more expensive, private projects.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.

Instead of reforming them, to improve Occupational Saftey for home businesses (i.e. sweat shops.)

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Didn't he have stock in Enron?

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.

And passing the deficits on to our kids.

Signed trade promotion authority.

Helping his buddies increase their bottom line (an issue I am, personally, divided on, but I don't think this had anything to do with his magnanimosity.)

Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.

Because they're clearly not receiving enough subsidies to justify their existence.

Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.

Because Biotech crops are clearly safe and health?  And Europe shouldn't be permitted to decide what food they do and don't eat?

Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.

When it suits him?  When's the last time we saw crops from Cuba?

Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.

Out of who's pocketbook?

Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.

At who's profit?

Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.

Meaning wealthy people can now save more, each year, for their children's education.

Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.

Instead of reforming the system that already penalizes people who wish to adopt hard to place children, and ensures only the rich can 'buy' healthy, happy babies.

Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.

Again, supporting those wealthy enough to prepay college educations.

Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Making it harder for hardworking, honest people to get into our country to work shit jobs we don't want.

Education & Employment Training

Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations).

Great in theory, lousy in execution.  The jury is still out on this one.

Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.

Turning High Schools into vocational schools, at the expense of traditional skills; how many full tuition rides could have been paid for by the Iraq war?

Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)

Which undermines the very concept of fixing the broken system.

Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.

Which is fine with me.

Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.

Which requires the states to conform to a national system, holding our tax dollars hostage if states happened to choose to apply a different standard.

Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.

Again, great in theory.

Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.

Out of who's pocket again?

Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.

Because our service members weren't treated badly enough in the armed forces, they now have to be sent to do war in the worst classrooms in our country.

Environment & Energy

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Painting us as the developed country least interested in improving global environment issues.

Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.

Etc?  What sort of 'cleaner technology?'  What color is the rabbit hiding in his hat?

Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.

Wait, I thought we were killing Kyoto?  Why are we giving companies that already break existing laws more money?

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

Meaning we know less about the health effects of genetically engineered crops, increasing profits for growers, with a tradeoff in potential harm to humans.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

Um, sure?  The president didn't have better things to do with his time?

Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Making it easier for loggers to harvest forests with endangered species by simply yelling "FIRE!"

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Instead of addressing the 'privatization' laws that were responsible for California's surge in price, while increasing the amount of CO2.

Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Meaning people rich enough to own huge tracts of land in the first place receive even more of our tax dollars.

Defense & Foreign Policy

Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Successfully?  Freedom?  Are you kidding me?

Saddam Hussein is now dead. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.

And that was our responsibility, why?  If he was supposed to be dead, why didn't your dad do the job?  I'm not sure who to blame here.

Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.

I mentioned hydras.  The US has been Al-Qaeda's single most powerful ally in garnering support for their group.

Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.

(coughs) Sure.

Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.

Simultaneously turning our civil liberties inside out, and exponentially increasing the possibility of terrorist threats in the future.

Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.

Meaning we need more war, not less, to keep the peace?

Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Because Terrorists have sooooo many nuclear missiles aimed at us.

Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.

This is supposed to be a good thing?  Allies are great, but the enemy of my friend, is not my enemy.

Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.

As an afterthought.  Is the first President in decades to almost completely ignore the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.

Increasing the amount of money pouring into our Military Industrial complex, paid for by our great grandchildren.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.

And causing the most serious rift in relations with the Russians since World War II

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Because they're being sent to Iraq, and we don't have enough surplus troops.

Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.

Because he feels we do a better job playing world cop.

Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.

Because we only use the UN when it's too dangerous for us to send our troops.

Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.

Increasing that budget, and putting that money into the pockets of his campaign supporters.

Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.

Asked and answered.

Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.

Because that's his job, as commander in chief.

Ordered a review of overseas deployments.

Ditto.

Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.

Because he expects us to do even more fighting instead of negotiating.

Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.

Making the overall cost of our number one industry even more profitable.

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Because we have a right to send planes to spy on them.

Globalization & Internationalism

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).

Because we no longer support the concept of global democracy.

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Because they were investigating us.

Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*

Because we sell weapons to whomever we want to, so long as they're killing who we want to.

The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.

That we have shown the world our middle finger and invaded other nations willy nilly, and wonder why we're condemned for it.

Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Because Iraq was on the brink of invading us?

Government Reform

Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.

Because our government officials are clearly invested in profiting from their jobs, and private companies have a track record of fulfilling government contracts efficiently?  Shall we redefine the word 'profit' to mean "to serve the common good of our country without regard for the money we can make from it?"

Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.

Except for military jobs, forestry jobs, educational oversight jobs, and vast numbers of advisors.  Telling the bean counters who keep track of how much bloated spending Bush caused to go home doesn't mean the federal government is shrinking.  Increasing private jobs doing public functions doesn't overall save any real money.

Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*

Vastly increasing the amount of money they receive, and conversely reducing our freedoms in the process.


Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.

Less oversight is the first step to plausible deniablity.

Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

What were the net savings?

Health

This section is so laughable, I can't begin to address it.

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

*See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.

When did North Korea aquire technology to launch missiles at us?  It'd be much easier to just park them in downtown DC, and detonate them.

Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).

Increasing funds, hasn't increased our safety.

Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.

Making it even more profitable for border runners to engage in human trafficking.

The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.

Because we need to have hundreds of thousands of them, before we can definitively state they are useless..

Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.

Because it's easier to engage in a witch hunt, than to address the root problem.

Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.

At a cost of billions, and a net dent in the traffic of 0.

Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.

71 arrests, at a cost of millions, for less than a million students.  Shall we do the math?

This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.

Sure, fine.

Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

False.

Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.

So?

Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.

A controversial bill that reportedly will block employment of millions of legal Americans.

Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.

Why so long?

Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Meaning there's no way those nukes buried at the bottom of stuffed animals will be found.

Judiciary & Tort Reform

Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.

Define frivolous?

Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.

Meaning the Bar has no business weighing in on the competency of their members?

Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

This was a national goal?  Half the country prefers liberals.  Granted, this is a pro Bush/conservative list, but it's a bit like saying "nominating strong, white judges" since half the country would like to see white judges.

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Sure, fine.  What progress has been made based on this 'support'?

Politics

His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.

Well, it did.  That went over like a house on fire.

Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.

Considering unions tend to vote Democratic, I don't think this was entirely a selfless act.

Second Amendment

Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.

The right hand telling the left it's thumb is backwards doesn't work so well.  The President is not empowered to interpret law for the Supreme Court.

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.

Because pilots aren't just supposed to fly, they're supposed to be Bruce Willis.  How about requiring a security guard in place of one of those lousy attendants?

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Because Gun manufacturers shouldn't be held responsible for what they build?

*See Globalization & Internationalism.

Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism

Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."

So?  The President's job isn't to define morality.

Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.

Spiffy.  I'm sure he couldn't find better things to do with his time.

Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.

Sounds nice and all, but what has the end result been? 

The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved.

Because Separation of Church and State is really supposed to just be a guideline, not a principal.

Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.

Isn't that the community in questions job?

Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.

Meaning we pay for more devices that get sold for 'free' on late night Cable TV?

Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.

Because poor people deserve better access to home ownership than middle class?

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.

Out of his pocket?

*Please note that some of the above may be out-of-date.  This is from a list created by supporters of Bush and as they aren't here to tell you why they feel the President is doing a good job, I thought I'd let their words speak for them.

There, they spoke, so did I.  I can't wait for Bush to become a (bad) footnote in history.

Stephan


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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 11:13:01 AM   
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Stephan considering that you are pretending the economy was in great shape when Clinton left, I bet you will be pretty surprised at how history judges things. 

And you are actually upset the bussiness who make items to assist disabled people will make money if more disabled people get help?  Thats just ridiculous.

And again, the deficit is caused by a mix of income and spending.  The income is up under Bush.

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RE: Got something to say about the Bush years ? - 3/12/2008 11:24:02 AM   
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quote:

There are some good things there, no doubt about it.


yes even a broken clock is right 2 times a day!


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