Hippiekinkster
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Hahaha I missed the point? Seems like my sarcasm went right over your head, didn't it?
(sex slavery) has absolutely nothing to do with "race" being a social construct, or with the fact that discrimination against people of color in the US is very real and very prevalent and there is NOT a level playing field, making any suggestion of "merit" ludicrous.
Hippie, my son, show me where I have argued that race is not a social construct ? You cant because I have never said it.
You missed the point about the reference to slavery in Africa and the prejudice Arab v Black in an all Muslim country.We are led to believe that only white people do these things when the links show clearly that is NOT true.
The only solution to the problem of Blacks in the US is for them to solve it themselves by their own efforts. I do not believe that to be easy but it is the only way.No amount of social engineering ever has or ever will help.
Do you remember the disruption caused by attempts to integrate secondary educution in the 1950s US. Was it a success ?. I mean in terms of raising standards.
Confucious said You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.
Another fact: in the UK exactly the same types of under achievment of Black youth has developed as was known to exist in the US.
Can that be a coincidence or a pointer to "something else" ?
As I said, my sarcasm went right over your head. The point was NOT about slavery. It was about "racial" tension, which YOU brought up. I don't have to explain your own post to you, do I?
Maybe you are led to believe only pink-skins engage(d) in slavery. I know better. We've had these convos on B.com for years.
And sorry, old man, I don't remember any of the events of the early 50s, since I wasn't born until 1953. However, virtually all Americans learned about Brown v. Board of Education - Topeka KS, in school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Board_of_Education
BTW, here's a quote from Wikipedia:
" Brown was influenced by UNESCO's 1950 Statement, signed by a wide variety of internationally-renowned scholars, titled The Race Question.[2] This declaration denounced previous attempts at scientifically justifying racism as well as morally condemning racism." I seem to recall someone accusing me of hate-mongering because I do not accept a genetic justification for the concept of race. I am happy that you agree that it is entirely a human invention based on mythological differences.
As to whether integration has raised standards: while I have not researched this particular topic, this article suggests that integration can do so, and that just desegration is not effective. Are the problems structural? That study of resume call-backs and "black-sounding" names is unequivocal; absolutely. I'm sure you read that, yes?
"Psychological research indicates introducing people to working together in groups, especially in the schoolroom and workplace, helps overcome racial and cultural bias. Desegregation alone is rarely sufficent.
At Stanford University, psychololgy professor Claude Steele has studied how stereotypes shape intellectual identity and performance. He holds that, in a school setting, self-esteem equates in part with scholastic achievement. For scholastic achievment to become a goal, students must perceive that they have the interests,skills, and resources to succeed in the working world, and that they belong in that world.
But for some African Americans, job oppurtunities are limited. With job prospects illusory, striving for a better education becomes less important. And when school achievement falls, so does self-esteem, setting up a vicious circle. In such a situation. it is difficult for either self-esteem or scholastic prowess to thrive.
Women, too, often face such obstacles. To continue in math, for example, a woman may 'have to buck' the low expectations around her, along with the anticipation of spending her professional life in a male dominated world.
Decades of research have shown that intergroup cooperation can increase acceptance among people of different ethnic, cultural, and other group identities, according to Dr. Ann W. Battencourt, assistant professor of social psychology at the University of Missouri, who also testified at the congressional hearings. In general, this research shows that:
People generally experience positive feelings toward each other when working cooperatively toward a shared goal;
Under certain circumstances, people can establish a group identity without relinquishing their own prior identity;
As people work cooperatively and learn about each other, they are able to share the perspectives of others with whom they are working; and
The affinity among those who share the new group identity can be generalized to other persons and other situations." http://www.apa.org/ppo/issues/pgroups.html
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