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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:20:06 AM   
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But...why is it discrimination to have an all-white college, but, it is empowering to have an all black or all women's college? I don't think either one is a good thing. People should be judged on who they are, and what they do, not the colour of their skin.

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:22:02 AM   
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It's easy to say when you have the "right" skin colour.

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:32:11 AM   
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So, because I have the 'right' skin colour, I shouldn't have an opinion?
Just like men shouldn't have an opinion on abortions because they can't conceive?
I find that argument silly, to be quite honest.
And, btw, if anyone has read my posts, I am of the belief that all of us, should be judged on our actions, not on our colour.
I think this is just another example of the point I was attempting to make in the first place, so ty, KS, for helping me to make my point.

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:36:54 AM   
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For historic reasons I only judge people on their noses: damn Romans grrr.

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:41:46 AM   
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I HATE my nose!
I would've liked to have one of those thin patrician noses, but, sadly, it was not to be.
Perhaps I can go to an all flared nose college?
Do you know of any good ones, perchance?

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 11:13:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

But...why is it discrimination to have an all-white college, but, it is empowering to have an all black or all women's college? I don't think either one is a good thing. People should be judged on who they are, and what they do, not the colour of their skin.


Except that Historically Black Colleges are not 100% black.

Real basic and interesting article on MSNBC at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18914514/

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Edited to add: There are a handful of mens only colleges in America.


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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 11:30:17 AM   
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quote:

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So, because I have the 'right' skin colour, I shouldn't have an opinion?



Yep! Shut up racist.  :)

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 11:59:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

But...why is it discrimination to have an all-white college, but, it is empowering to have an all black or all women's college? I don't think either one is a good thing. People should be judged on who they are, and what they do, not the colour of their skin.


You live in a dream world.

Why don't you ask your "Educated" sig other...Since you seem to be unable to answer the question in an articulate manner.

Maybe he could inform you on how people today are not judged on who they are and what they do. It's really quite simple.


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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 12:17:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

So, because I have the 'right' skin colour, I shouldn't have an opinion?
Just like men shouldn't have an opinion on abortions because they can't conceive?
I find that argument silly, to be quite honest.
And, btw, if anyone has read my posts, I am of the belief that all of usshould be judged on our actions, not on our colour.
I think this is just another example of the point I was attempting to make in the first place, so ty, KS, for helping me to make my point.
We all know should, but should isn't is. (that's a weird verb construction )

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 1:05:36 PM   
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True, but trying to correct racist perceptions by doing things that only raise inter race tensions doesn't help much. Does it ?

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 1:16:03 PM   
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True, but trying to correct racist perceptions by doing things that only raise inter race tensions doesn't help much. Does it ?
Yeah. So I guess whites should go back to being slaveholders, so as to lessen "inter-race tensions" (did you or ANY FUCKING BODY ELSE actually read why race is a social construct?) (I thought when I came here that this place couldn't possibly be as bad as B.com with respect to people actually knowing how to click a link and learning something. Man, was I wrong. Fucking NashvilleDom is a genius compared to some of the people here.)

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 3:50:23 PM   
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So if someone is non-white and says the same thing, then it is valid? I think some people are a racist and don't know it, because they are a racist in a way against whites, it is okay. What was that about hypocricy?


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's easy to say when you have the "right" skin colour.


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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 3:54:24 PM   
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Is there a reason you use "extreme" and "over the top" examples when someone disagrees with you? I do not believe being racist in a way to help minorities does a thing for racial issues, other than make them pronounced. So a system based upon merit is not a good system? So are you saying that if a non-white makes it in life it is because they busted their ass to get there, or it was because of all the special programs? I say treat people for what they can do, and how well they can do it. No one should get special treatement based solely on "race". It was bad when it is done for whites, and it is bad when it is done for anyone based on race. It is called having a single standard.


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quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

True, but trying to correct racist perceptions by doing things that only raise inter race tensions doesn't help much. Does it ?
Yeah. So I guess whites should go back to being slaveholders, so as to lessen "inter-race tensions" (did you or ANY FUCKING BODY ELSE actually read why race is a social construct?) (I thought when I came here that this place couldn't possibly be as bad as B.com with respect to people actually knowing how to click a link and learning something. Man, was I wrong. Fucking NashvilleDom is a genius compared to some of the people here.)


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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 4:52:39 PM   
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I think HippieKinkster just misses the point and lashes out regardless. lol
With regard to slaveholders, they still exist today..... in Africa . I'm bad I am.
Dont believe me?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3985885.stm
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In west Africa, children are trafficked between countries, often sold
by their own parents, to be used as servants in the houses of richer people and on agricultural plantations.
or
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/slavery1.html
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Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 20 million people in bondage.

It gets better
http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/1529/Slavery_today_yes_it_is_still_happening
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Research has uncovered this practice plus documenting and analyzing the hatred that the Arab minority holds for Blacks, both slave and free, in a country where everyone is Muslim.
 

What did Al Gore say? An Inconvenient TRUTH


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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 6:21:26 PM   
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Here's your single standard, Orion.
Please read this: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-112647828.html

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 7:26:03 PM   
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War of the links

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 7:50:20 PM   
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Hahaha I missed the point? Seems like my sarcasm went right over your head, didn't it?

And, fyi, I don't know about the UK, but there are sex slaves in the US. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04EEDA1439F936A15752C0A9629C8B63

Which has absolutely nothing to do with "race" being a social construct, or with the fact that discrimination against people of color in the US is very real and very prevalent and there is NOT a level playing field, making any suggestion of "merit" ludicrous.

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 8:30:29 PM   
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To the gallery,

He likes to try to use the cheap trick of waiting untill the "answer" in question has moved to the next page, then pretend he directly answered it.  I guess he figures people here are too lazy to notice or check.

Please notice the excessive use of insults, and him declaring he is leaving. 

Then a few posts later he accuses hippie of "the classic running away tactic of the outed troll"

For an example of a troll running away, see this thread  http://www.collarchat.com/m_1691586/mpage_1/tm.htm   Cain't hep mahself... part one: Quackery.  Its only just over 2 pages long.  short read. 



Or you could go to post #114 in this thread, and admit that the answer :
"I'm not promoting the idea that race is a biological certainty ..... although I will note that some in the discipline are saying that all the results are not in yet.   
As I said, there are branches of science that don't buy into the construct of race...others do, and some are arguing internally
.  "

Does in fact exist....not surprising since other people have had no problem seeing it, and even commenting on it.


Only yourself and HK are so wound up in the 'No such thing as race' sophomorism (which has been laughed out of the courts), that you can keep a straight face while pretending I didn't answer the question.

Same thing for HK's sudden amnesia as to the assertion in post #105..."there is no scientific basis for classifying humans into 'race'..."

Notice that he doesn't say a specific discipline within science, he claims that science in toto rejects the label...which is patently untrue. His response to proof that within the whole of science there are fields that do in fact use the label was to say 'Screw what the Social "Sciences" say...", in post #118...which feeds into his earlier pretense that anything which uses the label of race isn't a 'real' science.



You two can trot out all the bogus debate tricks you want... such as claiming that posted words and links were never posted, or that I said I was running away, when what I repeatedly say is that I'm not going to debate holocaust deniers, racists, or sophomoric trolls. 

The facts are on the table, you've been caught saying they aren't....if you want to puff yourself up by duping a handful into believing you through the incessant repeating of such fakery, instead of the facts, go for it. 

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 9:22:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

True, but trying to correct racist perceptions by doing things that only raise inter race tensions doesn't help much. Does it ?


So minorities becoming better educated and having more disposable income will only encourage them to move about needlessly, hmmmmm?

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RE: Racist - 3/15/2008 11:24:54 PM   
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I'll clarify what I mean by Science, since certain persons seem to have hemorrhoids growing out of their foreheads over the word:
"The difference between Science and the fuzzy subjects is that Science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship." Robert Heinlein

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