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Justme696 -> RE: In need of help! (3/14/2008 9:54:13 AM)

didn't get me excited...but sad
they only have bud light :(




FRSguy -> RE: In need of help! (3/14/2008 9:57:14 AM)

With all the Doms out there who truly take care of there subs / slaves fisicaly, financialy, emotionaly.... Why would a woman do this?  I mean whats wrong with the help me help me help me getting rescued and taken care of for the rest of your life???  I mean reality dosnt really work that way but its not compleatly and entirely all that different than that. I mean dont your moms and dads teach you anything when your growing up?

If your a sub wouldnt it just be easier just to find the right guy and throw yourself at his feet and be happy rather than throw yourself at anything that happens by.....

I wonder if these morning threads everyday that make subs look so bad are real or not.  Its like every morning when I log on there is one sitting there.




SimplyMichael -> RE: In need of help! (3/14/2008 11:28:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

... 
Bottom line is you've hooked up with a misogynistic arsehole.  You're less than human to him; he sees you as nothing more than meat - and a potential source of income....
 
He's a user; which makes you....?  There is a difference between dominant and domineering and it's the latter that's generally characterised by an abusive dynamic.  IE, the stereo-typical abusive, drunken husband is certainly controlling his partner but there is nothing safe, healthy or fulfilling for the dominated in such a relationship.   Ideally, a happy D/s relationship is one where both D & s are getting their needs met.
  
Focus.


Woman, when Focus says someone is misogynistic and an asshole you seriously better listen (no offense Focus)!

To those who think the post is bullshit, I don't.  Strippers are young and dumb and rarely choose that lifestyle freely, something draws them to it.  They love being treated like shit, a trait they often have even stronger than your average girl that age.  It absolutely rings true to me.




akisha -> RE: In need of help! (3/14/2008 2:50:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings,

I just have this little notch on the back of my neck when I read something and it just does not sit right in a reality sense of view.  I mean I just do not equal this to being real, just in someone's vivid imagination and then they will see the replies, maybe pass onto their mates and laugh about it while eating cheerios and drinking bud light, because their parents have locked the liquor cabinet up for the night.

I am going with my gut and just know this is not the truth.

Be well.

Frank Ar.



I have to agree.  I mean really can anyone be this inept at thinking for themselves? 

I don;t care if you are submissive or not, who the hell would go along with something like when they have just met.

I know some women have done astounding things but that;s usually after years of brainwashing, not after just meeting a couple months ago.

SimplyMichael - I've known girls that chose to be strippers for various reasons. Not all of them are victims. One friend of mine stripped 4 months a year for 5 years to put herself through University. Another one did it cause she likes the attention and likes travelling. 

Yes some of them have issues and are drawn to that career choice or sometimes that career chooses them because they can't seem to do anything else but That is not the case for all strippers.




SailingBum -> RE: In need of help! (3/14/2008 2:52:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


To those who think the post is bullshit, I don't.  Strippers are young and dumb and rarely choose that lifestyle freely, something draws them to it.  They love being treated like shit, a trait they often have even stronger than your average girl that age.  It absolutely rings true to me.


I would buy the OP story if she had known the longer than 4 hours.  Getting addicted to a guy from 4 hours horse shit

BadOne




SimplyMichael -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 12:00:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


To those who think the post is bullshit, I don't.  Strippers are young and dumb and rarely choose that lifestyle freely, something draws them to it.  They love being treated like shit, a trait they often have even stronger than your average girl that age.  It absolutely rings true to me.


I would buy the OP story if she had known the longer than 4 hours.  Getting addicted to a guy from 4 hours horse shit

BadOne



Just because 4 hours isn't enough for you to entrance a woman, don't assume it isn't plenty of time for others.




Stephann -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 12:17:17 AM)

Personal Experiance:

I dated a girl who was finishing high school (and was 18.)  I was 25 and started college at a time when she was in a transitive period in her life.  She moved with me, and started stripping, a kink we both shared.  The one rule I gave her was "never do drugs, and NEVER go home with a guy."  Three weeks later, she went home with another guy; she'd taken my car, and our roommate brought it home, saying that S went home with another dude.  The next morning, she showed up and her shit was piled at the front door.  She admitted that she wasn't ready to commit to living with me, and that she went home with someone else, because she knew it would make it easier to leave me.

Strippers do random, sometimes bizzare things because the normal social rules don't really apply to them anymore.  They live in a world that only other sex workers can understand, a world that they can't exactly call their daddy about and ask for advice.

Stephan




GreedyTop -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 12:34:19 AM)

Assuming the OP is on the level here (and having BEEN a dancer, and having known many even after I quit, I can see it being true):

honey, as so many others have said, get a restraining order, cut him out of your life, tell your boss about it - strip bar managers aren't clueless, so letting him/her know about your kink side shouldn't be an issue.  IN fact, it COULD turn into a sell-factor at work, if ya work the femdom aspect  *wink*

He's an abusive cunt.. dump his ass. 





SailingBum -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 12:35:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


To those who think the post is bullshit, I don't.  Strippers are young and dumb and rarely choose that lifestyle freely, something draws them to it.  They love being treated like shit, a trait they often have even stronger than your average girl that age.  It absolutely rings true to me.


I would buy the OP story if she had known the longer than 4 hours.  Getting addicted to a guy from 4 hours horse shit

BadOne



Just because 4 hours isn't enough for you to entrance a woman, don't assume it isn't plenty of time for others.


What I didn't say cuz it was so obvious sure anyone can get laid in 4 hours.  But I can't get that kind of control she is claiming in 4 hours.

BadOne




Focus50 -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 4:46:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


To those who think the post is bullshit, I don't.  Strippers are young and dumb and rarely choose that lifestyle freely, something draws them to it.  They love being treated like shit, a trait they often have even stronger than your average girl that age.  It absolutely rings true to me.


I would buy the OP story if she had known the longer than 4 hours.  Getting addicted to a guy from 4 hours horse shit

Most school kids might think 4 hours is a red flag of BS; yet that aside, you can generally go with the rest of one *very LONG* OP?  I'm just trying to imagine someone with the wherewithall to to concoct such a monumental passage of (alleged) fiction yet would bring themself unstuck with such an impossibly unbelievable notion that it only took 4 hours to get hooked.  To me, it's that very aspect of apparent unbelievability that makes it ring true; that truth is often stranger than fiction....
 
The only thing I'm a little uncomfortable with is mutually siding with SimplyMike; that's not how our respective universes are meant to function...!  So if he and I can actually see eye to eye on something, this 4 hours bizzo is an easy stroll in the park of truth.... ;-)
 
Focus.




SimplyMichael -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 2:14:43 PM)

You have a sense of humor?  Who knew?

LOL, shows most of us have more in common than we realize...




Owned1 -> RE: In need of help! (3/15/2008 10:17:35 PM)

To the op

You have a user - abuser and possibly a pimp or wannabe pimp.  Get out of that "relationship" Now!
If you are still interested in this life then get out and find a group local to you, connect with others who have knowledge and are real.  Learn what you can from them, form connections who can assist you in your growth and learning.  Lastly there are tons of resources on line and in real books on BDSM and the all parts of this life.  Read Read and Read more until you know exactly who You are - what You are seeking - What You need --then look for that.  Do not settle for less than what you know will satisfy whatever it is you find out you need.

Submissive/slaves are not doormats.  They are strong,  enlightened, educated and kinky people who happen to enjoy activities that are outside of the norm of the rest of the world (or that is what the rest of the world openly admits to).

If you ever want to yack drop me a line - we have all been there, use others to learn the mistakes rather than having to repeat them.
All the best

Owned




Sageandaslave -> RE: In need of help! (3/16/2008 12:44:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariesdelight

I have actively been in the lifestyle for 3 years now.  I have mostly submitted to women since I've been married for 5 years.  However, since I am getting divorced I found a man claiming to be a Dom.
Let me explain that I feel like when the right person gets into my head, I am Very submissive.  However, I read a lot and i can't figure out whether or not this relationship is abuse, if I'm trying to force my vision onto him, or what.

We have been dating for a little over a month now.  Straight after knowing him for four hours though, he right away discovered I was into the lifestyle, i guess cause i said exhibitionist (im an exotic dancer).  Anyways, through talk he immediately found out, and said things about respecting my boundaries, and safe words.  Etc etc.  Then he demanded that before we continue, I had to have sex with him...that night.  Infront of my co-worker and her new lover (his best friend).
Imean he literally wanted to have sex while they watched.  He is definetely into voyerism and exhibitionism.  But four hours of knowing him...and he got upset and said he didnt want to see me.  I was crushed, but the next day he sent his number through his friend to my friend to call him.  So i let it go.

I should mention that really ive never had an formal training.  One long term so i understand the mindset.  And i feel like its more natural.  I have hit subspace, i know that i am submissive.  I need that control.  Long for it.  But im cautious too.  I know there are players out there and i wanted to slowly enter this. 
It was like hitting a wall of Domination at 80 mph.  Boom.  No training, little understanding of wants/expectations on either side.  No patience and a lot of confusion. 

The next few meets went well.  I met his friends and enjoyed being shown off.  He loved it too.  We have had gangbangs. I didnt ask for them but he enjoys watching other guys fuck me.  But then he demanded, and i do mean viciously demanded i find a girl (im bi).  I only had days.  I suppose i fought it because it was sudden and i was hurt that i wasn't enough...even for two weeks.  And i didnt know any.  I have kept my lifestyle a secret and honestly my only social time is at work.  And i dont want to piss where i eat.  He had no patience and thats all he had a single track mind for was another girl.  I asked him for time to see if i could find someone online or maybe feel out a few co workers to see if they are interested.  I cant tell ytou the amount of crap i went through. 
He has never phsycially hurt me, but i fear for my safety of my reputation  He seems to feel he can tear my life apart.
When he gets what he wants, he is fine and sweet.  I did find a girl, and after that it seemed ok.  Now he is demanding i make money for him.  He lost his job and needs money.  He is demanding i give him $1000 for his rent otherwise it's a "bad move".  He does that alot.  Makes threatening remarks at me.  Not about my physical safety but like how he will come to my work and i cant remember the exact words but very menacing against my mental/emotional state.

My other problem is that i dont know which way to go with him.  No matter what i do it pisses him off.  He always thinks im cheating on him since day one.  And i has forced me to stay away texting him arguing all night.  He pushes his will by saying "no means no" or "just accept it"  terms i get.  Then he gets scary by saying, "you sholdnt piss me off"
But its like he has told me he doesnt want me to go out...at all...im in the barscene alot, i worked at three.  I have friends and just go to socialize.  He wants me to sit at home and wait for him to let me come see him (he has a daughter and long story short i cant meet her so my times over are few).  He had a shit storm, had his ex over, and claimed they were having sex.  This morning he said he didnt but last night he wanted me to think so.  But she was still over there! And he kept me up all night so that i got three hours of sleep before a 12 hour work day.  Next day, he was like, "well then you shouldnt have gone when i said no" 
Im not allowed over when his daughter is there...but the ex is???   
He claims he said no, but he didnt really.  i knew he didnt want me to but i got tired of sitting around (ok not the subbiest thing to do but please put into context my plight).  There was no good reason to not go when He can go when he wants too.  He went to a bday party tonight...he didnt even ask me.
Im scared all the time, but i can't figure out if im fighting this to try and turn it into my ideal relationship, or if he's abusive.
He says he cares about me, but then its like he wants me to pay for his rent...in two weeks....maybe if i knew him longer....
Oh and he is consistently dumping me.  Saying goodbye, lose my number.  Your worthless, you dont love me.  Your nothng special.  You are useless to me
But then he turns around and says he wants me to be his girl and that he cares about me.  He calls me worthless a lot.  Seems to play off demeaning me. 

So i know this is sorta abstract, but i can't tell if im just fighting the control.  I mean i like the restrictions, and the control but at times it seems suffocating and ridiculous demands.  And he gets really scary about it.  When i tell him, he tells me, "well then do as i say and dont piss me off".  And nothing is for me.  Like he may not even come to my bday party at the end of the month cause "he wont know anyone"  Even as a subbie dont im like..its my bday!
Am i fighting this?  I know i've read alot of things, and my previous relationships never got too serious cept for one.  So i can't tell.  Is this truly where the submission comes into play.  To just agree or is this going past Domination to abuse?  I just feel like i seriously dont have a right to say no.  Ive never thought of myself as a slave, but it seems like im getting forced there. 
I can't tell if he cares, or if im a booty call, or if im his whore and he wants to pimp me out.
Please help!!!


This is serious.  He sounds like a psychopath masking himself in this lifestyle.  You need out of this situation and super fast!  Do not take these posts lightly. IF what youre saying is accurate within 90% then get rid of this loser.




TysGalilah -> RE: In need of help! (3/16/2008 5:45:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariesdelight


The next few meets went well.  I met his friends and enjoyed being shown off.  He loved it too.  We have had gangbangs. I didnt ask for them but he enjoys watching other guys fuck me.  But then he demanded, and i do mean viciously demanded i find a girl (im bi).  I only had days.  I suppose i fought it because it was sudden and i was hurt that i wasn't enough...even for two weeks.  And i didnt know any.  I have kept my lifestyle a secret and honestly my only social time is at work.  And i dont want to piss where i eat.  He had no patience and thats all he had a single track mind for was another girl.  I asked him for time to see if i could find someone online or maybe feel out a few co workers to see if they are interested.  I cant tell ytou the amount of crap i went through. 
He has never phsycially hurt me, but i fear for my safety of my reputation  He seems to feel he can tear my life apart.
When he gets what he wants, he is fine and sweet.  I did find a girl, and after that it seemed ok.  Now he is demanding i make money for him.  He lost his job and needs money.  He is demanding i give him $1000 for his rent otherwise it's a "bad move".  He does that alot.  Makes threatening remarks at me.  Not about my physical safety but like how he will come to my work and i cant remember the exact words but very menacing against my mental/emotional state.

My other problem is that i dont know which way to go with him.  No matter what i do it pisses him off.  He always thinks im cheating on him since day one.  And i has forced me to stay away texting him arguing all night.  He pushes his will by saying "no means no" or "just accept it"  terms i get.  Then he gets scary by saying, "you sholdnt piss me off"
But its like he has told me he doesnt want me to go out...at all...im in the barscene alot, i worked at three.  I have friends and just go to socialize.  He wants me to sit at home and wait for him to let me come see him (he has a daughter and long story short i cant meet her so my times over are few).  He had a shit storm, had his ex over, and claimed they were having sex.  This morning he said he didnt but last night he wanted me to think so.  But she was still over there! And he kept me up all night so that i got three hours of sleep before a 12 hour work day.  Next day, he was like, "well then you shouldnt have gone when i said no" 
Im not allowed over when his daughter is there...but the ex is???   
He claims he said no, but he didnt really.  i knew he didnt want me to but i got tired of sitting around (ok not the subbiest thing to do but please put into context my plight).  There was no good reason to not go when He can go when he wants too.  He went to a bday party tonight...he didnt even ask me.
Im scared all the time, but i can't figure out if im fighting this to try and turn it into my ideal relationship, or if he's abusive.
He says he cares about me, but then its like he wants me to pay for his rent...in two weeks....maybe if i knew him longer....
Oh and he is consistently dumping me.  Saying goodbye, lose my number.  Your worthless, you dont love me.  Your nothng special.  You are useless to me
But then he turns around and says he wants me to be his girl and that he cares about me.  He calls me worthless a lot.  Seems to play off demeaning me. 

So i know this is sorta abstract, but i can't tell if im just fighting the control.  I mean i like the restrictions, and the control but at times it seems suffocating and ridiculous demands.  And he gets really scary about it.  When i tell him, he tells me, "well then do as i say and dont piss me off".  And nothing is for me.  Like he may not even come to my bday party at the end of the month cause "he wont know anyone"  Even as a subbie dont im like..its my bday!
Am i fighting this?  I know i've read alot of things, and my previous relationships never got too serious cept for one.  So i can't tell.  Is this truly where the submission comes into play.  To just agree or is this going past Domination to abuse?  I just feel like i seriously dont have a right to say no.  Ive never thought of myself as a slave, but it seems like im getting forced there. 
I can't tell if he cares, or if im a booty call, or if im his whore and he wants to pimp me out.
Please help!!!

 
I hope you can somehow learn to listen to YOURSELF.
You have the answer to your question you posted here.
 
imo
If you cannot tell the difference, for yourself, between what feels right and what feels wrong, then its time to step away from ANY relationship and focus on learning what that means in your life and to your well-being.
 
Learn to listen to your inner-voice. 
Submission doesn't feel empty and fear-filled or trapped.
 
 
 




LotusSong -> RE: In need of help! (3/16/2008 2:54:37 PM)

 
So many .. guys AND gal dominants find this and think "kewl.. all I have to do is tell  a submissive what I want and it's done..no NO's..
 
Sweety,
I want you to go to the mirror right now..look at yourself then say out loud to that image in the mirror:
"Just how FUCKING desperate am I for a boyfriend???!!!!"




WildeDanny -> RE: In need of help! (3/18/2008 5:49:39 PM)

Whatever anyone else calls it, the most basic thing is that the two of you are a mismatch. And you DID kinda lead him on by continuing to see him. The only reasonable thing to do is to give him the benefit of the doubt, sit him down, and tell him you don't want to see him anymore, and why. If it gets worse from there, then follow DesFIP's advice and involve the police.




ariesdelight -> RE: In need of help! (3/19/2008 11:33:34 PM)

Greetings,
Thank you to everyone for your replies.  i appreciate the validation that it wasn't me and that this situation was not right.  i was just afraid that maybe i was trying to unconsciously top from the bottom or force this relationship.  i appreciate the advice and ill take actions to correct this.  Thank you all.

Frank....this is NOT a fantalitical situation.  Not everyone finds the "fairytale ending" relationship.  Do not be so quick to judge about what is real in someone's life and what might not be.  Trust me, there is a lot that goes on in people's lives that most would not believe could happen....and it does.
I would not have wasted everyone's time and energy in reading this if this wasn't true. 

It saddens me to see that so many would jump to think this is creative writing.  I had assumed that this board was to help those that needed it.  I would NEVER Ever waste everyones time in reading this if this wasnt absolutely true. 
My confusion is not of my own self worth, but of the lines between bottom-topping, slavery, and such.  Hence the questions.  Its impossible to ask the outside, because they see the control and think its abuse.  However, i know there are many in here that have given even more control then this.  Hence my question.
If i wanted to write a piece of story, i would go to bfl publishing company and do so.  Not waste your time with what would be a crappy example of story writing anyhow. 

I wish i could explain this better.  i do know the difference between the lifestyle and abuse.  Having said that, when someone searches for a long time, and ive read alot, spoken to a lot of people.  Sometimes i wondered if i had created this ideal relationship in my head, and somehow getting upset because it wasnt as "perfect" as i thought it should be.  It's not about what i know to be right or not, i just needed reassurance.
To those that took this seriously, thank you.  And to everyone that sent me pr emails i appreciate your caring.  Thank you  as well ^_^





FrankAr -> RE: In need of help! (3/20/2008 12:17:23 AM)

Now I know with that little tugging feeling that it was bud light, and some popcorn.

The reason is with a few words again in the new post not ringing true, but hey that is just me, simple and straight.

Have a good life and enjoy yourself.

Be well.

Frank Ar.




LickMyBoot77 -> RE: In need of help! (4/1/2008 11:05:23 AM)

You must of hit it on the head Frank, the profile no longer exists. Mom and Dad must of come home and locked the liquer cabinet back up.




Justme696 -> RE: In need of help! (4/1/2008 3:09:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LickMyBoot77

You must of hit it on the head Frank, the profile no longer exists. Mom and Dad must of come home and locked the liquer cabinet back up.


or 1 of the million other possibilities




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