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RE: Giving the Dom control over release: being released... - 10/2/2005 11:54:36 PM   
FLButtSlut


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You realize that this is ad hominem, right?

(I mean, if you're going to resort to one of the most discredited fallacies of all, at least you should be aware that you're doing it.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut

ES2

Her age and YOUR age do make a difference in your perspective. The fact that you did exactly as I said the younger would do serves only to prove my point.




Actually, I was neither appealling to her prejudices or her feelings, and certainly was not attacking her character.

Youth is not a character trait, and while arrogance IS a character trait (one you are no doubt far too familiar with), it is the arrogance of youth that makes one continue to defend that their youth does not mean they lack life experience.

Nor is it in the least a discredited fallacy. If, however, you would like to prove to me how youth does not equal a lack of life experience, feel free to email me privately.

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RE: Giving the Dom control over release: being released... - 10/3/2005 12:17:18 AM   
Lordandmaster


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There are plenty of young people who have more life experience (not to mention wisdom) than other people will attain in a lifetime. Age is not the same thing as experience, nor is experience by itself the same thing as knowing how to apply it.

In any case, responding to people's statements by referring to their age IS ad hominem--aside from being grossly patronizing. Even calling me arrogant is ad hominem, but I'm willing to let that one slide.

< Message edited by Lordandmaster -- 10/3/2005 12:18:03 AM >

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RE: Giving the Dom control over release: being released... - 10/3/2005 2:30:04 AM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut
There are many different levels of "slavery", and like it not kiddo, the door IS always open. You may choose not to use it, you may even believe you do not have the right to use it, but REALITY is that that option exists for anyone.


I wrote a few things over the years that adressed this issue on my blog... I'll quote briefly from some here rather than post a lot of text that is already available. A post with links to most of my relevant essays is also online.

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(from "I consent!")

The crucial factor there then in evaluating how meaningful their consent is in that circumstance can only be evaluated in the context of that person’s frame of mind then. We cannot judge it strictly by the situation in all shades… what one person considers an acceptable set of choices is not always what another would see - and as a result we find this…

That the number of choices a person ACTUALLY has is usually far smaller than the number of choices a person might LITERALLY have.


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(from "We?re all just animals? thoughts on non volitional submissive response?")

Obviously these assertions do not allow for the concept of a non choice submissive response, something I am deeply immersed in understanding and manipulating...


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from "Ownership and metallurgy"

In my mind, ownership has to be organic in the context of even quasi-consensual relationships. I simply don’t know of any other way for it to arise or maintain itself. To be honest, I never understood ownership as a concept that could be based on a contract or set of voluntary agreements… ownership is something that happens.

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