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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 9:58:27 PM   
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OMG I HAVNET BEEN CLALED A SPAZ SINCE FITFH GRADE!

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 9:59:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

OMG I HAVNET BEEN CLALED A SPAZ SINCE FITFH GRADE!


Was that the first, second or third time you repeated it?

- LA

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:00:05 PM   
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OK LIKE I DNOT UDNERSTAND WHAT YOU MIEN.

LROD IS A DUMASS, DONT FORGAT

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:01:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

OK LIKE I DNOT UDNERSTAND WHAT YOU MIEN.

LROD IS A DUMASS, DONT FORGAT


Hence why you repeated 5th grade 3 times.

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:02:38 PM   
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NO THAT WAS FORTH GRADE, I ALERADY TOLD YOU THAT

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:03:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

NO THAT WAS FORTH GRADE, I ALERADY TOLD YOU THAT


Alright... now do you remember what the topic was little dumb ass?

- LA

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:04:03 PM   
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NO, WONCE I RED BANG ON I ASSUMED THE THRED WAS ABOUT ME

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RE: True submission is... - 9/29/2005 10:04:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

NO, WONCE I RED BANG ON I ASSUMED THE THRED WAS ABOUT ME


Ladies & gentleman, a true dumb ass ;-)

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RE: True submission is... - 9/30/2005 6:11:21 AM   
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i dunno. maybe it's me? it seems you keep asking the wrong questions...
equal? i have never heard of any Domme/sub being equal.. it is about HER...not him.


From first appearance it does appear unequal - but in actuality it's balanced - for to make a relationship equal requires that both express their desires and needs, both see to the desires and needs of each other, both receive or take what it is they desire and need. So even in a power exchange relationship it can still be equal (and should). After all we are just two heads on the same coin - without either side the coin has no value. We cannot dominate without a submissive, they cannot submit without a dominant.

Even a submissive who craves 24/7 domestic servitude is getting something for their labor of love - they are getting their fantasies and desires met in the very act of cleaning. The dominant is getting a clean house and freeing up her time so she can enjoy life more (it's also easier to stay in a dominant headspace when one isn't distracted by a million mundane tasks that need to be taken care of). Both get something they enjoy, both give something they enjoy (she gives of her time & seeing to his training & discipline).

My point to all this - if two consenting adults come to an agreement and both get what they need out of it - then it is an equal relationship.

There will always be those who will take advantage of a gift offered - those who seek handouts because it is easier to take than to put forth the effort to earn it themselves. There will always be those who struggle financially looking for an easy buck. There will always be those so insecure and out of control that they seek imaginary lifestyles to provide a sense of control where there is none.

Our lifestyle attracts the unstable and damaged souls - but that doesn't make all of us unstable or damaged. The real challenge is sorting through all the chaos and finding those stable self-suffiencient confident partners who can enhance the quality of your life while you enhance theirs. If you seek BDSM because it is erotic fun or a deep down need within you that is one thing - if you seek bdsm to hide from your life or to heal you from previous emotional or physical abuse or damage then you are in this for all the wrong reasons.

Finding a partner in bdsm is no more difficult than finding a vanilla partner - there will always be desperate people, needy people, unbalanced people. Take your time and get to know your potential partner long before you ever play with them. Anticipation is a good thing - so many are so rushed for that immediate gratification - but anticipation allows things to build and grow so that when you do finally play the sparks are all consuming and the experience intoxicating!

I wish all those out there all the best in their journey - just remember, you are the only one responsible for YOU - take that responsibility seriously and choose what is best for you (not just what you can get).

To thine own self be true...

Lady Kay

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RE: True submission is... - 9/30/2005 9:24:32 AM   
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This topic makes me cringe and grin all at the same time. Thanks pollux, my face hurts now ~Grin~

I'm an equal opportunity submissive, so I gotta ring in on the fem sub side of this, because I think there are just as many horny/kinky/bottomy girl does/says X, then a true submissive would do or say Y as there are guys.


Have you read Chuck Palahniuk's "Choke"? There is a GREAT scene in there toward the end of the book where the main character is approached by this woman who wants him to "rape" her... Except she's got this litany of things that he has to do in order to get it "right". And as he keeps getting farther and farther into the scene, more and more "requirements" keep coming up. It's worth reading the book just to get to the payoff of what the guy does at the very end. I was *rolling*. It's easy to see how that could work both ways -- with Maledoms/femsubs AND vice versa. It really gave me an appreciation of what some Dom/mes must go thru.

I really enjoyed reading the rest of your post... very heartfelt. I hope you've got that grin/cringe off your face now.

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RE: True submission is... - 9/30/2005 1:04:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pollux
Have you read Chuck Palahniuk's "Choke"? There is a GREAT scene in there toward the end of the book where the main character is approached by this woman who wants him to "rape" her... Except she's got this litany of things that he has to do in order to get it "right". And as he keeps getting farther and farther into the scene, more and more "requirements" keep coming up. It's worth reading the book just to get to the payoff of what the guy does at the very end. I was *rolling*. It's easy to see how that could work both ways -- with Maledoms/femsubs AND vice versa. It really gave me an appreciation of what some Dom/mes must go thru.


You know, this is where we can at least seperate domination/submission from top/bottom. My best friend is just like the girl in this story. She is a total attention slut and wants to be ravaged but under her terms. She will bite anyone who tries to treat her as though she was submissive (and her boyfriend is so very submissive to her in their relationship dynamics) but she totally wants to feel vulnerable sexually. And the fun thing, is that for these two, it totally works and meets their needs.

So I guess in the end, it comes back to the whole idea of nothing being "True" but rather about finding what is right for us.

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RE: True submission is... - 10/1/2005 7:33:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

NO, WONCE I RED BANG ON I ASSUMED THE THRED WAS ABOUT ME


Ladies & gentleman, a true dumb ass ;-)

- LA


Geez. Will you two just get a room already?


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RE: True submission is... - 10/2/2005 1:31:16 PM   
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IMO,I believe that in a TRUE Femdom/submale relationship areas that aren't working should be negotiated,if at all possible, rather than the Fem/sub send a 'Dear John' email/call.
The kinky guy after kinky sex isn't going to bother to be respectful/decent in that area(it would more than likely the Domme just be replaced) whereas a true sub would renegotiate the contract/relationship with his Domina.
I can't answer the extra credit as my ex boy wasn't a live-in type ltr.

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RE: True submission is... - 10/2/2005 1:37:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Oumae


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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

i dunno. maybe it's me? it seems you keep asking the wrong questions...
equal? i have never heard of any Domme/sub being equal.. it is about HER...not him.

but maybe there is a new generation i don't know about?

you asked about doing all the housework alone w/o aid or assistance? yeah! it's how "I" was trained AND how "I" do it with my Mistress......

is there something i missed somewhere in your posts that maybe i am off point on? lemme help if i CAN..

wolf



I'm not a Domme who thinks it is all about me!
Yes, I want it my way but I also want my sub to feel happy and fulfilled. Thats why I look for a male who is compatable with me. In my way of thinking it is all about "us".

Oumae



Compatability in vanilla type activities as well as kinks, a non-sadistic Domme will not keep a pain slut for long,lol.
Honesty is my most crucial factor and one can fake that for awhile before hopefully the other parties gut kicks in.Being led on sux the bigone.
Intelligence and humor are top qualies as well.

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RE: True submission is... - 10/2/2005 3:05:36 PM   
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Ahem.

Extra Credit Question?


<falls off her chair, laffin'....


Be well!

Texas Maam

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