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I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 5:58:40 PM

ScottishLord

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I have a situation with a slave I have under consideration and I need some advice from other Masters.

This slave's former master who had released her over 3 months ago before he went overseas wants to walk back into her life and take up where he left off. He never had her sign a contract of servitude, collared her or even met her in person. Now on the eve of me collaring her he has demanded she comes back to him.

He has thrown her into an absolute panic and has been sick with worry. Now she is unsure if she can allow herself to be collared by me. I have spent the last two months working with her and am sure she would make me an extremely good slave. We had built up a fantastic trust and bond but with this former Masters return everything has been thrown into disarray. Trying to talk to her now is like talking to a brick wall she is that scared of what he will do.

I need advice from other senior Masters please.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:04:14 PM

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Did he release her because he was going overseas ? or for another reason.
Did he release her according to both of them ??

What kind of contract did he have and has he been in her life physically lately ?

My suggestion.. he released her once- he probably will do so again. is that something she can live/deal with. You may have to have her sign a 5 yr commitment contract to show her that you are not going to do to her what he did.

or perhaps you need to put her on her knees and decide for herself. if she leaves then she would have anyway.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:07:05 PM

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Contracts aren't worth anything.

I assume she has actually met you? If so, then would it help if you interceded? Wrote him and told him, you have her in the flesh and she is forbidden to talk to him again. Have her change her sn, email, etc. Ask her if this would help her. If so order it.

But are you sure you really want her that badly. Because if she really thinks some guy who abandoned her once won't do it again, then she's a fool. Not to mention that if she does know you, and is learning to trust you in the flesh, then her inability to see reality from dreams is troubling.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:35:00 PM

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Being there first does not make him right. You think if My Pet's ex husband came back and asked for her leash he'd get it?

Even slaves have one inalienable right: A right to leave. She can choose to leave you, but it seems she chose to leave him.

You care for her, she chooses you. She is yours. I suggest a formal and mature discussion. Ensure she understands she is able to speak freely.

Her confusion on who she belongs to means she still has feelings for this other man. Only honesty overcomes this. Expect tears.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:35:34 PM

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She hasn't met him but she is scared of him, and had already been collared by him. You are in the process of collaring her, have you met each other?

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:37:43 PM

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He released her and to my way of thinking thats that. Unless of course she wants to go back to him, then she needs to tell you that. I hope that you two have met in person already since your going to collar her so that you know that she is indeed the one for you.

Sounds like you two need to sit down and have a chat.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 6:45:54 PM

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Too much drama.

How many minds is she in? If it is more than one, flush her and walk away.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 7:17:09 PM

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You know, I do not know why Ms or Ds has to make this situation so complicated... use your common sense about life. If she is unattached and wants to be with you, I see no cause for an ex lover to get in the way.. unless she would really rather be with him.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 7:21:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OldBastardly1

Too much drama.

How many minds is she in? If it is more than one, flush her and walk away.

yeah

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 7:27:19 PM

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She was released. They've never met. She's scared of him???? The bond and trust you've built has been thrown into disarray because he's come back thumping his chest for "his woman"?

It sounds to me like SHE is the problem, not him.

I really think you can answer this question yourself, SL.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 11:18:27 PM

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You know this reminds me of one of those things...... What are they called.......Um you know they cause all sorts of crap and bullshit make waves whenever possible.....

Oh Yeah Drama Queen. If you collared her or were about to there must have been some kind of bond.

Ask yourself this question How Dedicated to this Dom was she when she met YOU!! And how dedicated to you is she gunna be if Him coming back makes her like this.

Brother throw yourself a life vest and get out of the pool it looks a little SHALLOW anyway.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 11:27:46 PM

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hey scott

You claim to be a dom.... why don't you start acting like one. In the biz we call it ManUp

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/15/2008 11:39:32 PM

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Still waiting to hear if Scottyboy has actually met this chick, or if he is going to collar her the same way the last dude did.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 12:13:01 AM

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She's obviously not ready for any sort of commitment and you'd be silly to try to push it. Next time be sure the past is done with before even planning for the future with someone else.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 2:55:50 AM

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For those of you that asked the question: Aye I have met her, we have spent the last 2 months together and things were going extrememly well until he returned from overseas without warning and rang her.

She went from an extremely happy slave to a gibbering mess in the space of 20 mins, the time it took me to drive from my place to hers.

It has taken me until late this evening to finally calm her down (a total of 2 days) and to finally get some coherent sentences from her. I will nee say what he did or his name so I donna break protocol of this forum or this site. All I will say is what he did to her I would nee put my dog through let alone a woman.

To SailingBum .... I have had to MANUP more than you could imagine my friend, I have been dealing with cancer for quite sometime now and this just through me to a point that I was in two minds as well. I really do care about this lass and I was just so frustrated that I could nee think straight myself.

I must thank you all... for what you have said, aye even you Sailing Bum.. I now am thinking straight again and I know what "I" must do to sort this out.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 3:02:08 AM

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Soooooo, whatcha gonna do???? Don't keep us all in suspense...

BTW, I perved your profile. good luck with that cancer thing. if anybody can kick it, you can.

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 3:12:48 AM

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If she is really important to you and is worth fighting for, may I suggest a rope circle and a claymore and tarn shield for both you and her original Master. Winner gets the girl..(For the literal minded, this comment is allegorial and should not be taken litterally unless you handle things like I do and have in the past but substitute a katana for a claymore)..

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 3:48:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ScottishLord

I have a situation with a slave I have under consideration and I need some advice from other Masters.

This slave's former master who had released her over 3 months ago before he went overseas wants to walk back into her life and take up where he left off. He never had her sign a contract of servitude, collared her or even met her in person. Now on the eve of me collaring her he has demanded she comes back to him.

He has thrown her into an absolute panic and has been sick with worry. Now she is unsure if she can allow herself to be collared by me. I have spent the last two months working with her and am sure she would make me an extremely good slave. We had built up a fantastic trust and bond but with this former Masters return everything has been thrown into disarray. Trying to talk to her now is like talking to a brick wall she is that scared of what he will do.

I need advice from other senior Masters please.

Greetings,

Now a few things do not add up, in my eyes, so you can let me have a leeway in my answer and ou can see where I would be going.

Signed a contract, collared her, or even met in person...now what you are trying to tell me is that she might just want a cyber collar, he went away and she thought nothing of it and now has come back, because he thinks she is still his. That is what I am reading in those few words.

Have you spoken to him ? You see by his words I would then deliberate if he is a physco, if she is one, or maybe their communication went astray for the time that he could not write to her.....and this is when you happened to come along ......and now he is back. I would actually talk with him and find his side. Now if he is calm and talks with you and sees that it is a miss communication, and backs off and lets her be, then I would also let her be, because if she does not communicate well enough before do you think that she will start with you.     2....If he become defensive and adjitated about the situation then get her to a new place away from him and keep her sheltered for a period of time. If he has gone once then he will go again. Make sure that when you do shelter her then get the correct law enforcement going into action, it is always good to have a legal backup.        3....This might be a moot point but there are real spastic and dumb people out there, but do you think that she might be relying on your knight in shining armour scenario because of the cancer, she might be seeing if the knight is stronger than the brute and matching you against one another to see whom will come out on top, you know what I mean.      4.......It may just blow over and things will calm down over the next few weeks and then you both can go on with your lives togather and go forward.

1 and 3, just might be hypothetical and might not happen but it is a good adaption to have in the back of your mind.  2 and 4 are my best bets for you and her.

Remember another thing, that sub and slave contracts are really not enforceable under law. You can't go to a judge and ask him to sit upon a meellee that consenting adults should be able to communicate about. If you punish her for not cooking and you tell her to cook and then spank her about 20 times for not doing so, and then the next day she has a mark and a work colleage tells the law, you will be put up for assault, simple. 3rd parties, especially here in aussie land have more say than the two parties involved, if you understand that.    An example.....at work I can just laugh and joke with a female co worker and just tap her lightly on the shoulders or thighs, harmless and she can just give me a whack across the back of the head lightly laughing away with the joke. Another woman sees this and informs the super and I am before the management getting counselling for sexual harrassment at work, go figure. You understand this ?

Hope all works out.

Be well.

Frank Ar.

< Message edited by FrankAr -- 3/16/2008 3:49:55 AM >

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 4:35:28 AM

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Hmm... you've been in a r/l relationship with a chick for two months and she's actually pondering to leave you for a guy she's never even met?

Dude... if I were in a situation like this I'd say goodbye to that woman and get a new one that... you know... isn't silly

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RE: I am in two minds. - 3/16/2008 4:53:30 AM

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I am just amazed that someone could be wanting to collar someone after a mere 8 weeks. The consideration collar is supposed to be for 3 years.

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