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I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 11:30:25 AM

LadyHathor

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Why is it that many boys feel the need to start their profiles or a contact out with, " i am an alpha male in the (vanilla world), ( by day), ( to my friends), (to my family)---

Why do you feel the need to validate what you perceive as your masculinity, yet seek submission, or service, or feminization. Do you think that raises our impression of you to "wow, here is a manly man who wants to kneel"?

Personally, I dont care if you are alpha, beta, delta or gamma--why do you feel the need to use that as an opening line?

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 11:31:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Why is it that many boys feel the need to start their profiles or a contact out with, " i am an alpha male in the (vanilla world), ( by day), ( to my friends), (to my family)---

Because they're insecure, and have have tiny little dicks.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 11:33:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Why is it that many boys feel the need to start their profiles or a contact out with, " i am an alpha male in the (vanilla world), ( by day), ( to my friends), (to my family)---

Why do you feel the need to validate what you perceive as your masculinity, yet seek submission, or service, or feminization. Do you think that raises our impression of you to "wow, here is a manly man who wants to kneel"?

Personally, I dont care if you are alpha, beta, delta or gamma--why do you feel the need to use that as an opening line?

I suppose it is much the same reason that a lot of fem doms scream out how they are THE goddess of all godesses.Or how some s types start out with how low they can bow, how easily they can prove their own special depths of submission or slavery. It is not limited to dominants, not at all.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:09:27 PM

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Nor is it limited to males. How many femsub profiles talk about how active and successful they are, so widely respected in the vanilla world with some kinda bullshit high-profile job--but they need a strong figure at home to "understand who they really are"?

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It is not limited to dominants, not at all.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:20:50 PM

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I've never been prone to that myself. (My favourite Greek letter is theta - although I try not to identify with it too closely.) I suppose some men might want to declare themselves "alphas" out of pure ego, and others might be overcompensating for secret insecurities or just generally trying to impress. But to be fair, some dominant women do talk about preferring slaves who are alpha-types (or strong, confident, dynamic, etc.) in the vanilla world, so perhaps many submissive men feel like this is a criterion they have to meet in order to find a mistress.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:21:55 PM

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My thoughts is they do this as a way to make themselves look good and hopefully to better attract what they are searching for. It reminds me of a contest of wills where the one who boldly states they are this or that, is masking a lack of self confidence. Seems to me that it's the unspoken confidence which is more appealing in the long run.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:25:27 PM

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people stress what they are most concerned for other people to believe

think of the guilty child caught being naughty ... "It wasn't me" it wasn't me!"

IMHO ... if a Dominant needs to mention how "Strict " he is ... he is convincing himself.
in the same way ... I read many profiles of women who profess that "they dont just submit to anyone, " limits limits limits gift gift gift .... I would bet my last five bob note ... that given the right .. errrr impetus ... they would be more than happy cowering in a bath having their "precious gift" peed on despite what their profile may say.

Take the profiles with a pinch of salt ...or yanno ... read them and play ... "reading between the lines" .. its a fun game

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:40:53 PM

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Testosterone and penises are useful for a lot of people, mainly men but a lot of women too, but both have a tendency to be overrated.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 12:47:54 PM

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Because they've read all those posts by dommes deriding the lowly worm types? Sub males get a bad rap. There must be over a hundred of them to every domme. They get jeered at by male doms. They're trying to present a good front, marketing themselves as well as they can.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 1:36:23 PM

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LH,

Perhaps it's because they have not reconciled the expectation that society can puts on men and their desire to submit to a woman. I think they want to appear like a "man's man" who is in total control of his world, and not the pussy that some may try to label them with.

Once they realize and accept who they are, I think they will feel less of a pushover, and more like a man who truly knows what he wants and enjoys.

My 2 cents anyway,
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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 2:22:57 PM

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I eat Alpha-Bits everyday, and I'm damn proud of it, grunt, grunt.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 2:29:36 PM

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Perhapes they really are alpha males in their vanilla life - and don't want that role in their bdsm life. If submission is given, not just there all the time, is it more valuable? If I am a strong man, and submit to a woman or another man, is it worth more than the soft or gentle man who isn't "naturally " alpha?

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 3:22:51 PM

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I remember the days when the popular guys on campus were those from I Felta Thi, I Eta Pi, and Tappa Kegga Beer.....

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 4:47:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

I remember the days when the popular guys on campus were those from I Felta Thi, I Eta Pi, and Tappa Kegga Beer.....

OMG as always you are priceless! This made Me spew coke!

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 5:16:47 PM

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I love looking like a man, well groomed masculine and muscular and I work at it. However, I don’t give a damn if a woman doesn’t recognize the discipline and hard work it took and takes to maintain the body I’ve developed. I didn’t and don’t work on my body for someone else and when I served I approach serving with the same gusto pride and focus to purpose.
Saying a man that takes pride in his appearance and has the financial freedom to do it well somehow implies the quality of his content is reduced is like saying a man has to much money and far to many spendable dollars to be of quality. what utter nonsense.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 5:22:02 PM

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I have always thought that the I am alpha cliche was for those of us who want a "real man" at home to dominate. Since, obviously if they are a good masculine heman in the vanilla world, that brings something more to the table when we are searching. Personally, I dont want someone who identifies as Alpha until I tell him he is. The only other reason I could see was they want to point out their dichotomy, but make sure we know that if they are going to be with us all the time, they are not going to be public slave material. TElling me from the getgo they are very important and in charge in their everyday life tells me they want to stay that way and will be limiting their submission to the privacy of our home (and more usually bedroom only).
Angel is what they would call alpha at work. He hasnt once thumped his chest and used it as a selling point for me. It is just a fact of life. I am not impressed by it, and it doesnt change how he and I interact.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 5:27:34 PM

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 5:33:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Why is it that many boys feel the need to start their profiles or a contact out with, " i am an alpha male in the (vanilla world), ( by day), ( to my friends), (to my family)---

Why do you feel the need to validate what you perceive as your masculinity, yet seek submission, or service, or feminization. Do you think that raises our impression of you to "wow, here is a manly man who wants to kneel"?

Personally, I dont care if you are alpha, beta, delta or gamma--why do you feel the need to use that as an opening line?

I am not a man, but having read a few male submissives on here, there are some that I think of as very masculine. I can see several reasons that a submissive may announce they are masculine and alpha, and there are some reasons that female submissives announce that in the vanilla worls they hold responsibility also.

1) Many femdoms do not want a sissy, so it would make sense that a male submissive knowing this would make it clear he wasn't into feminization as a way to attract more dommes. It also makes sense that someone that wasn't looking to be feminized would let that be known.

2) As submissives we are often perceived as being weak, less capable than dom/mes when this isn't true. Someone that has a great deal of responsibility in the vanilla world may want that to be known right off the bat for compatibility reasons. For example, I would not want to be with a dominant that thought me less than for being a submissive, and was very upfront about my vanilla accomplishments so that they would know I did not seek to be made less than.

3) Finally, I would think that people getting to know each other from the start may want to know how the other perceives themselves. I would also ask why it isn't of interest to you how a submissive perceives themselves? It would interest me if I were looking for a mate...For example, when a dominant emailed me that they were very "strict" it was a red flag about our compatibility. I would think a domme might use such self perceptions as a way to include or exclude those who wished to serve them...

just my thoughts...

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 6:08:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Perhaps it's because they have not reconciled the expectation that society can puts on men and their desire to submit to a woman.

I was going to say the same thing. I imagine it's really hard to break out of that manly man stereotype... While women aren't exactly encouraged to be submissive, it's a lot more socially acceptable.
I imagine the "alpha" thing is along the same lines as male "dominants" who are 100% dominant, until they excitedly begin telling you how you will be dominating them most of the time.

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RE: I am alpha hear me roar - 3/16/2008 6:15:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: katie978

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Perhaps it's because they have not reconciled the expectation that society can puts on men and their desire to submit to a woman.

I was going to say the same thing. I imagine it's really hard to break out of that manly man stereotype... While women aren't exactly encouraged to be submissive, it's a lot more socially acceptable.
I imagine the "alpha" thing is along the same lines as male "dominants" who are 100% dominant, until they excitedly begin telling you how you will be dominating them most of the time.

Stereotypes generally bite diseased donkey dicks.

With me, it's just that I like what I like-and I would rather be alone than put up with a lot of bullshit from a partner. The trick is in finding someone who likes the same things you like-with enough pleasant differences to keep it from being boring.

One of the things that I find most funny here, is the sweetness and light act so many subs put on as a mask. I'd be more impressed if they owned up to thier evil-we all have it in us.

And truthfully? It's a lot more fun.

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