Stephann
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Joined: 12/27/2006 From: Portland, OR Status: offline
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I think the question is moot. No one person can definitively know that another is submissive or not. A woman who tells me she is submissive (and wishes to submit to me), yet over three months consistantly attempts to dominate me and others, takes every opportunity to do only what she wishes, and shows zero interest in really submitting by her words, actions, and deeds, suggests to me that she isn't submissive (contrary to her self-assigned label of submissive.) I can only act on what I observe in others; part of that observation includes the things she actually tells me. With that said, someone who doesn't demonstrate any submissive traits, who is interested in learning to be a submissive can certainly learn this. With an honest desire to learn, a person can be exposed to situations that they might not have considered or experienced. In part, as Focus mentioned, setting the environment and offering a perspective from which a person approaches D/s is an important step in teaching the concepts of submission. Anyone who's been in the military can tell you how easy it is to teach the concepts of obedience. Yet a person who is skilled in submitting, isn't necessary going to be someone who enjoys submitting. No matter how much training one receives in, say, being a butler, it doesn't guarantee that he will enjoy his job. Yet one who's never been given a chance to try even the most basic of tasks isn't likely to be in a position to accurately assess if they'll ultimately enjoy it or not. In fact, I'd suggest that many male dominants aren't necessarily actually dominant, but rather have learned dominance is a tool they can effectively use to attract a desirable partner. In short, they 'learn' to become dominant, not because it is an accurate reflection of their personalities, but rather more like one might see others dressing well, dance well, or any other skill that increases their social standing. So yes, you can teach someone how to submit, you can make them submit, but it might not make them a person who enjoys being submissive. Stephan
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