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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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And I can get the Gender Recognition Certificate without having reassignment surgery.

you can get your m changed to an f without surgery?? holy shit... not here you cant...fat chance of that ever happening...im stuck with an M even though i am intersexed.

Hi Faery - yep, you just have to convince the Gender Recognition Panel that you've lived as female for a certain period or that for medical/age reasons it would be unreasonable to undergo SRS.

In the meantime its been no problem to get my driving licence changed (the numbers are ordered differently for M and F), passport, banking, utilities, insurance etc changed to show Ms or F. But my Birth Certificate says M, so it would be off to a male prison I'd go........ what fun!

I cant understand why with all the changes we've had here certainly, the intersexed seem to have been ignored and left behind whilst we're getting progress. Mind you its so difficult to get information on intersex matters so I dont know if my impression is accurate?

E

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

I've read somewhere (maybe the lawyers can pipe up), that some civil unions lack the full effects of a marriage.

thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: DupedDom

Shoot em if they run, is a good philosophy, worked well when Frank Rizzo was mayor of Philadelphia.

I do not see any reaon why the state should not recognize same sex marriages. Churches, that is a different thing. A church should be able to choose who they marry, the state should have some provisions for people of the same sex that are long term partners and need to deal with property issues and other legal issues.

Call me a homo-phobe, I love my gay neighbors but I believe that the lifestyle is immoral.

I also have some guns that were handed down to me and I intent to keep them, in my home for protection.

And for the Bear, Breeder?? How many people in heterosexual relationships have sex for reproductions sake??? You like labels??? I can imagine that close minded people have alot of names for homosexuals as well.

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ORIGINAL: boytoy4female

I happened to be in a chat room the other day, when someone said something about gay marriage. I stated I did not believe "marriage" should be available for homosexuals. I was immediately attacked, booted and called a homo-phobe.

(I'm shocked).

So for those small, closed minded individuals, let me also tell you what else I am. I am (a) male-phobic as I dont believe boys need to be in the girl scouts. I am (a) female phobic for the opposite reason.

I am a racist, because I dont believe anyone should be called a(n) african-american, japanese-american, etc. I think we should just all be (A)mericans.

I am a gun rights lunatic because I own a few guns, which I inherited; and I dont believe taking away the rights of the majority (comma) because a minority cant obey the rules.

I am a (N)azi because I think cops should be allowed to shoot you if you run.

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ORIGINAL: aviinterra

Most 'normal' people favor giving homosexual couples civil unions- that is, they get ALL the beneifts that 'normal' couples get at work and in govt. The word marriage has religious connections, hence it leads back to various churches, most of which view marriage as a sacred 'ok' for a couple to start having kids. Since two men or two women can't produce kids, they can't marry.

i am not nit picking here, and did not read the entire thread, but one statement here caught my eye. Marriage is the sacred ok to start having children and gays/lesbians can't have children so marriage is vetoed.
If there is a church out there that is hiding behind this then how can they justify marrying infertle couples? Should those men and women remain forever single?

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

To the OP:

No offense, but that'a pretty "gay" looking photo for someone that is against gay marriages. 

You need a photo of yourself eating a steak, drinking a beer, driving a truck, skinning a deer, you know something like that. 

*For those with no sense of humor:  I AM KIDDING* 

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ORIGINAL: aviinterra

This reply is to no one in particular, just an observation on what I have been reading on this thread.
I have noticed that people tend to get upset when homosexual couples demand a right to marriage- note the use of the term marriage. Most 'normal' people favor giving homosexual couples civil unions- that is, they get ALL the beneifts that 'normal' couples get at work and in govt. The word marriage has religious connections, hence it leads back to various churches, most of which view marriage as a sacred 'ok' for a couple to start having kids. Since two men or two women can't produce kids, they can't marry. I kind of wonder at the insistance of the homosexual rights groups that the word marriage has to be used- it should properly be an insistance on the right to have civil unions, since that is what the govt. can give a couple. A church is a private thing, the govt. can't force it to marry just anybody.
As for the business aspect of this, I can see the rational of business owners not wanting to pay for more benefits, esp. the small employers. Hiring a worker is extremely expensive ( worker's comp, liability, benefits, etc.) that at some point it ceases to be helpful to the business and hence a job position is gone from the market ( in terms of large corps. moved overseas ). Each problem has two faces, either we go all capitalistic in our country, or go to a more social model, but being in between is not working currently.

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Since two men or two women can't produce kids, they can't marry.

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

eh the girls at the gay weddings are almost always gay too you know.

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eh the girls at the gay weddings are almost always gay too you know.

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I think he is in search of the Fag hags...


Gwyn 

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

Most Super Models are fag hags... I will hand it to you on the basket cases.. but then 80% of people are basket cases in general.. so balance it out...

you get a couple of oh dear gods.. your birth certificate was the Condom factories appolgy letter kinda gals.. but then I have seen loads and loads of ugly men who just knew they were Gods gift to women.

At least an ugly girl will give a decent blow job. Ugly men are generaly even less inept then thier more attactive counterparts. Which is saying something. You'd think they would brush up on thier skills and make themselves useful.

Gwyn,
yes I know I am going to hell for those last comments.. LOL