quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG
he said that he'd read somewhere that Norman had an interest in ancient history and would often insert some tid-bit, usually about something he'd just learned more about.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

Besides that..the Romans (please correct me if I am wrong) had more "higher" purposes for females. They had female gods they worshipped.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Roman mythology directly derives from the Greeks where the cult of the Goddess was an essential part of worship.

If you're interested, I recommend you look at "Portrait of a Priestess: Women and Ritual in Ancient Greece", by Joan Breton Connelly.

Would you specify what you meant by "higher purpose females" ?

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

Yup there were both Gods and Godesses, often in pairs also not all Heros were of divine birth.

• There are three areas of the "Gorrean Experience"
  • The Gor Books
  • The Gorean Role Play Arena
  • The Gorean Lifestyle
• At times, there are large areas of difference between any of those three. Some who read the books do so because they actually enjoy them which is good. However, there Gorean Role P:layers who have never read the books and usually work on one or more web sites who give one person's ideas about Gor. Not a good idea for as it has been stated many time on the Gor forum that you need to read thre books as you get then and again several times in sequence to begine to understand the mindsets. (It should be understood that the Philosophy espoused by Norman in the Gor books and oft quotged come from the writings of Friedrich Nietzsche was a German philosopher of the late 19th century who challenged the foundations of Christianity and traditional morality). Gor espouses much of what made various civilizations or peoples great in history. Common factors include Courage, Singleness of purpose, Strength of character, Honour, Honesty, Loyalty and so on.. Where the Gorean Role Player and the Gorean Lifestyler oft differ and clash is in the question of reality. In roleplay kajiri all appear to be young women, lithe, experts in exotic dance, etc. In realty I have met only a handfull who meet that crierior. Role Play is fun and one way for a short tiume to become emersed in the world of Gor, fight bloody and corageous battles, ride the legendary tarn or trek a kaiila accross the vast sandy deserts of the Tahari. Not so different to the SCA other than Gorean Rple Play tends to remain on line. The Gorean Lifestyler however, understands reality very well indeed. he knows he lives on Planet Earth, tarns and kaiila do not exist. It will land him in jail for years should he attempt a collaring raid at the local shopping mall. he understands full well that he must live within the bounds of the society his home resides. What he does do is to take the Gorean beliefs and principles as his own and leads a life ruled by the strict codes. I agree that others who are not Gorean live by similar codes too. many M/s relationships could well be Gorean except for protocol and terminology. Other lifestyles have similar ways of living, the Old Guard and my own Victorian Lifestyle are very similar.
  
• On the Gor Board, there are the same variety of people as inhabit this side or the forum. One or two seem to act as the self proclaimed "God of Gor" and have no truck with any who either have not proven their Goreanness to them personally, face to face. There are others who are more laid back and open to discussions rather than lectiuring. If there is a fault in some of the Gorean Lifrestylers it is an inability to laugh at themselves and a tendency to tersness boarding on rudeness when talking to people. Other gorean Lifestylers understand and are used to it but it canm be somewhat disconcerting to non Gorean folk.

quote:

Would you specify what you meant by "higher purpose females" ?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

quote:

Would you specify what you meant by "higher purpose females" ?

propably just my bad english to be honost

I mean..Goreans see females as slaves....even the free females..in their heart. are jealous at slaves (or kajira's).

quote:



Often they are compared with Romans. But Romans worshipped females....so I called goddesses "higher purpose females".

quote:



Not sure if a Gorean from the books would kneel for the Roman Goddesses

quote:

John F. Lange, a philosophy professor, is a man of many talents. If I am not mistaken, he also holds a secondary degree in history, & I believe it showed through in his novels.

quote:

Early 1950s-early 1960s: Norman began his academic career. He obtained his Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Nebraska in 1953, and his Master of Arts degree from the University of Southern California in 1957. While at USC he married Bernice L. Green. Norman became a Doctor of Philosophy in 1963 from Princeton University.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Bah, divinities from the Antiquity only required a few bloody sacrifices to stay happy - they had other fish to fry than making sure little men knelt in front of them  .

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Not exactly. Depends on the Goddess. They were known for punishing upity mortals, or even those in the wrong place at the wrong time. A man who accidently saw Artemis naked was, I believed, turned into stone. Though the Goreans might actually like Roman Goddesses. For all Hera's power, she married Zeus because he raped her and mostly defered to his decisions, even though she caused all sorts of mayhem and trouble behind his back. Definately not a happy marriage.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Not exactly. Depends on the Goddess. They were known for punishing upity mortals, or even those in the wrong place at the wrong time. A man who accidently saw Artemis naked was, I believed, turned into stone. Though the Goreans might actually like Roman Goddesses. For all Hera's power, she married Zeus because he raped her and mostly defered to his decisions, even though she caused all sorts of mayhem and trouble behind his back. Definately not a happy marriage.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

dogmatic belief, you will always offend someone.

Dogma, that's the word I was looking for - it seems to be set in stone, on Gor. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

dogmatic belief, you will always offend someone.

Dogma, that's the word I was looking for - it seems to be set in stone, on Gor. 

*chuckles at the pun*

I think people who are of the BDSM ilk or even vanilla can have as deep of a philosphy as some of the Goreans. Just because they read a Sci-Fi novel does not make them any more well equipted or any more moral, or solid in thier beliefs. I think it is the general feel of "we are better then and holier thou" that pisses some folks off. Not all folks who are BDSMers are just into the whips and chains. Some are into more of the philosophy and spiritual aspects. There are many schools of thoughts on how to go about it.. and no touchstone of one great way of accomplishing it.. or I should say Homestone. But it does not lessen thier path then that of a Gorean. Heck I have seen loads of people on both sides Gor and BDSM who simply wanted a cute bondage bunny to play with and some roleplay. *shrugs* If that is thier thing.. more more to em. Not my place to sneer down my nose at them.. it just isnt for me.

Gwyn

quote:

For me buying that book was as good as a fuck.