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Racquelle -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 9:30:14 PM)
quote: I'm quite happy not to know any pro dommes irl and even happier that you don't want to get to know me since...your opinion means nothing. If you really didn't care what other people's opinions were, you wouldn't be on a discussion board, posting topics for the purpose of eliciting responses.

Briena -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:11:12 PM)
I seriously hate the term "WHORE" because it is always used as an insult against women who are in charge of their sexuality and their sexual conduct. EVERY WOMAN spreads their legs for something just like EVER MAN will gladly spread her legs for something. Money is a thing nothing more nothing less. Thats first... Second, just because a woman is a Pro Domme does not mean that she automaticly sleeps with her subs. I used to train, I got paid for my training having NEVER done any type of sexual favors for anything. Plus some pro dommes dont even do anything other then talk to the sub. The sub always has a choice to send the money unless its a TPE relationship. If its a TPE relationship then that was what both parties were looking for. I have a sub that gives me money just because he knows I need it. I dont do anything for him, talk to him. He cares about me. Does that make me a whore? If so please do tell my husband how Im a big ol whore. I doubt he will be so receptive. What makes them happy may not make you happy. Ok, big deal. The subs get pleasure from doing what they do and thats what matters most. Its a mutual relationship, with both parties benifiting. So if the Dommes are whores then so are the subs. Pro Dommes are exactly that, Professional Dommes. Plus its not your business what these subs and Dommes do and do not do in their private affairs. If you dont like the Pro Domme/sub lifestyle then dont become a part of it. You have no right to judge anyone else on their happyness and their personal lives.

KneelingSilently -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:13:43 PM)
FR Ah, the fine art of necroposting... well since it's here... First of all we all have different ideas of what the world should be and Financial Dommes and their clients are free to make their own choices. It's really none of my business. All I can do is "be the change want to see in the world." If I had disposable income income I'd rather sock it away for the Domme who actually gives a damn about me than give it to a Financial (or even pro) Domme. I won't cast judgment on their value as people. BUT there are two facets I can bitch about. 1.) Pay your fucking taxes. Seriously. Great, you got $1500 out of John Doe for giving him the finger on your webcam golfclap. Now make sure Uncle Sam gets his cut. 2.) quote: 7.3.12. You will not use Your profile or any other portion of the Website or Our services to promote any other business enterprise, unless otherwise permitted by collarme.com, nor will you attempt to use any of Our services to promote an escort service, prostitution, web-cams, or any other form of related enterprise; It's nice that this is in the TOS but I wish CM could find a way to enforce it. Edited to take out a harmless little phrase that wasn't a great idea considering the context of the conversation.

Briena -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:21:07 PM)
Flag their profiles whenever you come across them. If you feel that strongly about them not doing it on CM then do something about it. The more a profile gets flagged the faster CM shuts it down. I only know this because I had to do it once for this totally nasty innappropriate profile. Not only was she a financial domme but she was talking about murdering her subs it was rather gross. Her profile is gone now. So just flag them, it actually works. :D

KneelingSilently -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:32:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Briena Flag their profiles whenever you come across them. If you feel that strongly about them not doing it on CM then do something about it. The more a profile gets flagged the faster CM shuts it down. I only know this because I had to do it once for this totally nasty innappropriate profile. Not only was she a financial domme but she was talking about murdering her subs it was rather gross. Her profile is gone now. So just flag them, it actually works. :D Thank you for doing that.

Briena -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:47:13 PM)
No problem, she just scared me HAHA! She had this really pretty picture up of this beautiful blond girl (who knows if it was her) and it was just freaky. I didnt want anyone to fall into that nut case HAHA! Gone now though so no worries lol. I saved you HAHA

KneelingSilently -> RE: Financial Domination (7/14/2008 11:53:39 PM)
Feh. At most you saved her from a bounced check. :-)

sinseresubm -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 11:11:08 AM)
Briena wrote: >I seriously hate the term "WHORE" because it is always >used as an insult against women who are in charge of their >sexuality and their sexual conduct. Though I would not use the word "hate" (as it in this context is meaningles), I agree that the word in itself says nothing. We should not get hung up on labels. The point that I would like to offer for consideration (nothing more) is that (regardless of labels) inter-human relationships are not something to be bought and sold. It is simply too beautifull and special to be swaped for money. >Money is a thing nothing more nothing less. Mu point exactly. Thank you!

sinseresubm -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 11:18:01 AM)
Usako wrote: >>I'm quite happy not to know any pro dommes irl and even >>happier that you don't want to get to know me since...your >>opinion means nothing. Raqcuelle responded: >If you really didn't care what other people's opinions were, you >wouldn't be on a discussion board, posting topics for the purpose >of eliciting responses. Right on, Raqcuelle. Someone truly not caring about the opinion of others would obviously not care to read and post at a messageboard. Hehe...

sinseresubm -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 11:28:13 AM)
Usako wrote: >For calling someone else a child you sure do whine a lot. >Nothing you say phases me yet you keep trying. Plus, you >obviously can't even comprehend a simple statement made >by a "child" and assume the term "whore" is used purely to insult. Still in the yeard 2008 people are trying to label eachothers in a negative way to win a rethorical point. Someone being called a "child", and someone being called a "whore"... what does it mean? It says nothing. We all put different meanings to the word "whore", and that both OK and inevateable. Instead of discussing if someone is a "whore", let's rather discuss how it affects us when inter-human relationships or bought and sold for money. My view should be clear by now, but I cannot overemphasize that I truly respects that someone else feels differently and therefore acts differently. I simply offer my views as a thought for consideration - and isn't that what a discussion board is all about?

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 1:16:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sinseresubm Usako wrote: >For calling someone else a child you sure do whine a lot. >Nothing you say phases me yet you keep trying. Plus, you >obviously can't even comprehend a simple statement made >by a "child" and assume the term "whore" is used purely to insult. Still in the yeard 2008 people are trying to label eachothers in a negative way to win a rethorical point. Someone being called a "child", and someone being called a "whore"... what does it mean? It says nothing. We all put different meanings to the word "whore", and that both OK and inevateable. Instead of discussing if someone is a "whore", let's rather discuss how it affects us when inter-human relationships or bought and sold for money. My view should be clear by now, but I cannot overemphasize that I truly respects that someone else feels differently and therefore acts differently. I simply offer my views as a thought for consideration - and isn't that what a discussion board is all about? Money plays a role in E/everyones life,if Punk takes Me out to lunch shes and she paying or another submissive takes Me out they are paying for a relationship.Does that mean that My best friend buying Me lunch is her paying to be friends or is it just taking a friend to lunch so We can spend time together. I hate to burst your bubbles... Words of a negative nature are not JUST words. They are mean,cruel and emotionally harmful to those with insercurities. TWhen they are said to hurt someones feelings how can they JUST be words. How can whore be JUST a word when the person uses it purposely,she even said she did it purposely,to hurt someones feelings,that is being childish. Have you ever gone to a Pro-Domme? If not how the hell would you know what happens? I have no clue what you do for play,I'm not going to assume your a man whore,even though you might be. Maybe if P/people didnt judge a book by its cover you would actually learn something about that P/person. I do not get why you and the others against it think Pro's are useless. Its not like thats all We do,I play with others just for fun. Why is it so hard to accept that Pros DO NOT have sex with Their "clients" they are not even allowed to masturbate. Tieing up a penis is not sexual is painful,then its strung up to the ceiling and then the rope goes through the pulley and I yank as hard as I can over and over and over again.they love the PAIN not sex. More than one has said if they wanted sex they would go to a prostitute,they come here to lose themselves from the outside world. quote: sinseresubm The point that I would like to offer for consideration (nothing more) is that (regardless of labels) inter-human relationships are not something to be bought and sold. It is simply too beautifull and special to be swaped for money. I would like to point out that I for one and I know Other Dom/mes that truely care for their submissives that come to the dungeon. A relationship happens just by having contact with them. When they get a hard beating they are comforted and made to feel special and worthy because they endured the pain. When I brand a submissive it very intimate,but its not a sexual thing. Its a bonding of devotion,between Myself and them. quote: 1.) Pay your fucking taxes. Seriously. Great, you got $1500 out of John Doe for giving him the finger on your webcam golfclap. Now make sure Uncle Sam gets his cut. 2.) quote: 7.3.12. You will not use Your profile or any other portion of the Website or Our services to promote any other business enterprise, unless otherwise permitted by collarme.com, nor will you attempt to use any of Our services to promote an escort service, prostitution, web-cams, or any other form of related enterprise; It's nice that this is in the TOS but I wish CM could find a way to enforce it. I do pay taxes,last I knew there is a place at the bottom of the main forum page for Pros to post Their Business. Oh would you look at that there it is. So for those of you who think We shouldnt be able to have a profile about being a Pro,if CM allows it,perhaps you all should shut the hell up alreadyabout the Pros and find something better to talk about that isnt full of hate. Professional Services Links to professional dominants and submissives. Moderators Moderators

slvemike4u -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 1:27:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Ugh. Cry more. The whiney little tantrums of sub guys who can't find someone to do them in the ass with a strap on are EXACTLY the reason Pro Dommes do so well. No one is going to put up with that for free. Do you have any idea how much of a turn-off pouting is? As good a reason as I have ever heard to stop pouting This Lady is smoking hot,and if she says it's a turn-off,well no more pouting for this sub...no Ma'am!!!!

KneelingSilently -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 1:41:41 PM)
My complaints were aimed towards Financial Dommes. The only thing I said about pros was that I had no interest in visiting them. Many who are asking for "tributes" fall under the scammer section as far as this site is concerned. I'm sorry if you got the idea that I was ardently "anti-pro" and think there's no place on this site for them. As you pointed out that isn't the case. That said the many pros who choose to spam me with their services and whatnot DO have to go, but that's another thread entirely.

MstrTiger -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 1:53:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sinseresubm Obviously I do foresee that the overwhelming amount of "Dominas" that practice Financial Domination, will ensure that my posting want have all that many sympathetic responses. People have their financial interests to maintain. Why do people feel it necessary to pointlessly preach about how they think things should work, its fine that you don’t like financial dominas though why do you feel the need to preach to other people about it, I personally don’t really care what makes someone a prostitute in your opinion, the law decides that as far as I can see, and frankly my life has not been made any richer by discovering the fact that you are not happy with the fact that you think 99% of the women on here are swindlers. I realise that in your head the world was probably full of scantily clad sexy dominant females and the startling application of reality to your fantasies may lead you towards feeling a bit dejected though please do not pass your pointless negativity about the way people choose to live their lives onto other people! When you so called slaves realise that if you just manned up a bit and stopped complaining like little children about the fact that you all feel disillusioned by the nature of reality you could find that a few more genuine dominant types might be interested in using any of you. Speaking as a dominant whenever I get a message from a slave telling me how special and magical their submission is (sometimes 20 per day) I generally just delete the message, I am not looking for a mystical experience, I am looking for someone to clean my floors and wash my dishes!

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 2:10:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KneelingSilently My complaints were aimed towards Financial Dommes. The only thing I said about pros was that I had no interest in visiting them. Many who are asking for "tributes" fall under the scammer section as far as this site is concerned. I'm sorry if you got the idea that I was ardently "anti-pro" and think there's no place on this site for them. As you pointed out that isn't the case. That said the many pros who choose to spam me with their services and whatnot DO have to go, but that's another thread entirely. Maybe other Dommes do that.I agree they should go. I have never ever contacted anyone 1st to session. When they write to Me then I chat with them as long as they meet My requirements.I ask for a Tribute,I'm not a scammer. I dont want anyone to pay Our bills,I just want to make the dungeon a great dungeon with lots of stuff to use on submissive.

MizSexyVixen -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 2:53:46 PM)
As someone who bills themself as a sensual and erotic pro domme, I have to weigh in here. First, I do not have sex with my clients, that is understood upfront. I know of no pro doms, male or female, who have sex with their clients. Much of what we do is training and mentoring (yes, people do pay for that). Second, some of what I do is sensual and erotic in nature. It is not about sexual graitification however, but sexual torture. My clients are not allowed to climax or even touch themselves in my presence. I do not do anal play, and I put serious limitations on how and where a client can touch me. Third, yes there are "do me" service tops out there, but that's not me. I do not do cookie cutter domination. I insist on getting to know my clients and establishing a real relationship with them. I also routinely make arrangements (generally an exchange, like maid service) for those who cannot afford my fee, but who I have a good rapport with. Most pro dom/mes I know do this as well. I personally do not consider what I do all that different from being a personal trainer or coach. MizV

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 3:09:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MizSexyVixen As someone who bills themself as a sensual and erotic pro domme, I have to weigh in here. First, I do not have sex with my clients, that is understood upfront. I know of no pro doms, male or female, who have sex with their clients. Much of what we do is training and mentoring (yes, people do pay for that). Second, some of what I do is sensual and erotic in nature. It is not about sexual graitification however, but sexual torture. My clients are not allowed to climax or even touch themselves in my presence. I do not do anal play, and I put serious limitations on how and where a client can touch me. Third, yes there are "do me" service tops out there, but that's not me. I do not do cookie cutter domination. I insist on getting to know my clients and establishing a real relationship with them. I also routinely make arrangements (generally an exchange, like maid service) for those who cannot afford my fee, but who I have a good rapport with. Most pro dom/mes I know do this as well. I personally do not consider what I do all that different from being a personal trainer or coach. MizV Exactly!! Awesome post. No strap-on play,no handheld dildos either. The one thing I make an exception with(on occasion) is butt plugs. they put it in and have to keep it in while doing chores. Its not used for sexual arousment its used as a tool for torture type activities.Or they have to drive here with it in. I see that as a humiliation tool when they have to stop at a store and get Me a pack of gum,walking with a butt plug in and keeping it in is not always easy.

MizSexyVixen -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 6:22:56 PM)
Thank you! I also allow a client to use a butt plug on occasion, though I do not insert it. When I said I did not do anal play I was thinking more strap on or digitial manipulation. Not that I have anything against those things...it's just too close to sex for me. And I do not have casual sex of any kind. But let's be clear on this, I enjoy what I do.

Sunnyfey -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 6:36:16 PM)
UH Whats the big fricken deal about Financial Dommes? A guy wants to give her money for fliping him off on cam? Good for her!!! If you WANT to get down to the brass tacks of it, she IS selling a service, if that service gets him off? (im talking throughly non sexual things...like...shoes or..flipping someone off for that matter) Good for him!!! I mean really, if people dont get there kinks out, bad things happen. If they can go to a professional Domme? So much the better, the sub is in an SSC enviornment, not getting beat on by a partner who has no clue whats going on when it comes to safe play. It's a service...and for all its worth Im damn glad theres Smart Beautiful SANE women out there giving people what they need, which in effect is helping that person live a full happy and emotionally stable life, because they can live there fantasies SAFELY. A Big resounding THANK YOU to all those Ladies out there strong enough to do this. Your a Teacher, Friend, Therapist, and Comforting presence in an other wise sometimes sad depressing scary world.

sinseresubm -> RE: Financial Domination (7/15/2008 9:58:18 PM)
>Have you ever gone to a Pro-Domme? Yes. >I do not get why you and the others against it think >Pro's are useless. I don't think that. >Why is it so hard to accept that Pros DO NOT have >sex with Their "clients" they are not even allowed to >masturbate. It's not hard at all to accept that pros don't have sex etc with their client. Why is it so hard to accept that my point has never been linked to sex specifically?

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