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JulieorSarah -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 9:25:11 PM)

i'd like to add that as a 'master' his age (20) would not be viewed positively by many subs




celticlord2112 -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 9:27:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??

You only encounter this on CM? I'm going to hazard a guess that you've not been to that many other sites.

On any personals site, CM included, the signal-to-noise ratio is rarely that good. That's just the way of the world. Not much to do but deal with it.




SilkyRopes -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 9:48:10 PM)

More than half of the emails I get are from men less than half my age, or involved, or submissives, or switches, or from men halfway across the country - and many even OUT of the country completely.  Since I make it clear in my profile that I am only looking for a SINGLE Dominant Man near my own age who is local, I don't feel the need to respond to people who have completely disregarded my profile.   If someone emails me, and they are even close to what my profile states I am looking for, I ALWAYS respond as long as the email was polite.

silky



quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??




hsagnev -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 9:59:08 PM)

CM isn't the place to find someone and you'll just waste your time looking for someone here - at best CM is entertainment




domahpet -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 10:22:48 PM)

this from someone with 30+ friends on his list [sm=wave.gif]




stef -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 10:48:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hsagnev

CM isn't the place to find someone and you'll just waste your time looking for someone here - at best CM is entertainment

There are plenty of people who have found their "someone" here.  One big thing they have in common is they generally didn't mope around the forums and whine about how horrible their lives were.  Perhaps you should give that a try ?

~stef




MissMagnolia -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:08:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hsagnev

CM isn't the place to find someone and you'll just waste your time looking for someone here - at best CM is entertainment


I completely disagree. I know a few people who have met their "one" (sometimes two, greedy buggers!!) here on CM and they're are deliriously happy.

CM is also a place where you will meet wonderful people who may only ever be your friend, but are just as valuable, beautiful and treasured.

No where on the earth is there a place where everyone get's along, that is the nature of individuals. But if you make someone smile, or someone makes you smile, then it's a good place to be.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:25:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

quote:

ORIGINAL: hsagnev

CM isn't the place to find someone and you'll just waste your time looking for someone here - at best CM is entertainment


I completely disagree. I know a few people who have met their "one" (sometimes two, greedy buggers!!) here on CM and they're are deliriously happy.

CM is also a place where you will meet wonderful people who may only ever be your friend, but are just as valuable, beautiful and treasured.

No where on the earth is there a place where everyone get's along, that is the nature of individuals. But if you make someone smile, or someone makes you smile, then it's a good place to be.

Yeah, so true. Some of the "Welcome Wagon" folks are just fantastic. Especially with new posters who haven't quite figured out all the forums and are not overly concerned about their spelling, believing naively that the message is the important thing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Gawd, it's HARD having a convo about anything substantial around hear. So I'm throwing in the towel. From now on, I will only start threads like:

>If your nostrils were a tree, what color would they be?
>Submissives: real or quantum singularities?
>I made a post! Woo-hoooo!
>Favorite funeral eulogies
>The politics of car wax
>IV Ketamine, DMT, and LSD while scening?
>How to find the phone to call 911 after IV Ketamine, DMT,  &    LSD
CDs you like to play backwards for Satanic messages
Real Estate Porn
How do I get this eggplant out of my ass?

I know I missed a couple.



MissMagnolia:Yes, I'm far to stupid and shallow to talk about anything substantial around "hear". I stick to random stupidity, which is where this thread should be.

Take this in the nature of a good-hearted ribbing. BTW, it's "too". And did you ever get my coffee suggestion? It's easy to miss helpful posts sometimes, I know.




MasterDark1987 -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:25:39 PM)

Wow, now that I actually got some responses I can see what kind of people are on here and based on the kinds of responses I was getting earlier I'm not the least bit surprised, although I am quite amazed at how accurate I was. Now that I know I don't even stand a chance on this site I can quit with the niceties. I can be a smartass too, I'm actually very good at it...

after only six days you present us with this
excellent intro of a first post.
im confident youll make tons of friends here.
[sm=ofcourse.gif] - No, I tried making freinds the other way and it wasn't working. At least I know how to get people talking to me, I gotta piss you off first. Thanks for showing that to me.

S i x  d a y s?  i'd not noticed that ... yes i had a similar problem with a weight loss strategy, it didn't work either after six days - wow, I never knew meeting people had so much in similar with weight loss. anyone who goes on a six day weight loss plan will not lose wegiht, thats common sense. But if it takes six days for you to introduce yourself to someone or even respond I'm curious as to how you carry on a face to face conversation? Usually when I meet someone and say "Hi" they don't call me in six days to say Hi back. It must take you 40 days just to get served at a restaurant at that rate of speed.

Because all submissives are evil,lazy, lying, rude, intentioanlly frustrating, enjoy wasting dominants time, and generally ignorant .. we decided this was going to be official union policy at the Twue Submissives Annual Conference back in January

didn't you get the memo? - No, I didn't get the memo, If I had gotten it then I wouldn't have had to make a post about people ignoring other people juust to get some answers and see what people on this site are like. But by all means, feel free to send it, since you made such a dumb statement I'll give you a clue (my inbox is kinda empty if you haven't noticed) so any kind of memo would be great.

If what you do doesn’t get the results you want, try a different approach. 
If that doesn’t work, try another.
  - yeah, I'm not gonna lie about myself on here. I prefer to stay honest, If I was faking a profile then my age would be forty and I'd be a lawyer or doctor cuz thats gauranteed to get me + results no matter what I say.

There is no such thing as can't unless it is followed by yet

It is the meaningless little acts that become meaningful in the doing.

The people that mind don't matter and the people that matter don't mind. - yeah, too bad none of them are on here.

he wasnt here in january, but that profile looks soooooooooooooo
familiar. god i hope it comes to me soon! - oh yeah the HTML background I used is sooooo unique. I mean how could anyone else think to use a black background and white lettering? thats just unheard of isn't it?

dont feel left out ... he hasn'tsent me one either - left out? if people on this site knew what it was like to feel left out then they wouldn't be doing it to other people. don't use big words yo can't comprehend.

I have no idea what your emails entail, but I would suggest they be more than one liners... as I've heard that will get you nothing... well, it may get you a few harsh words from some (me included). I tried to view your profile and the only thing I saw was black..... an error on my end? or have you no time to share about yourself? If you're serious (as serious as a 20-year-old can be [8D]) you're going to have to be patient and put some effort into it. Complaining about not getting what you want after being on Collarme for a short time tells me you're not really serious or just being a brat cause you're not getting what you want, when you want it.... I'm just sayin. - No, I'm serious and I'm patient. I'll fix my profile if theres a problem but me being serious isn't an issue for anyone who takes the time to get to know me. Its that people don't take me seriously cause of my age, but I'm used to getting attacked and ridiculed for that two digit number and that number alone. I could know everything I know now but if I was ten years older people would take me seriously. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but thats why its not my logic.
 
Thank you OP, Master Dark, for allowing us lowly plebs and scum to call you Master Dark. We are flattered beyond words.

To answer your question, perhaps because you refuse to give even your first name to anyone you "don't trust and that will take a while"? Are you famous? Related to royalty? Mafia?

Fuck, get over yourself and stop pretending to be a secret agent.  If I was a sub and got mail from you, your profile would be enough for me to delete and block you forever. - No, I'm not a secret agent. I just don't feel like spewing out my personal info on the web for everyone to read. If you haven't noticed, putting things like your home address and and what you like can lead to identity theft. But its not like anyone on here wants to actually get to know one another so I don't even see how thats relevant.

 
loves it when there is someone younger than me on the boards ... yay for 20 year old knife play "experts".. - oh yeah, someone who's 20 can't possibly know anything now can they??
 
Y'all are mean, vicious women.  MEAN I tell ya.  Now I, sweet, innocent, even (dare I say it), angelic, would NEVER respond to someone this way.  NEVER.  Y'all should be ashamed.

SweetSubblyCali - wow, finally someone I can take seriously cause they're not an asshole. thats one out of the entire site. I'm amazed to get even that. thankyou SweetSubblyCali for showing me that maybe there are some people here who aren't completely full of themselves.

 
Snarky answer:  Probably because we're more ignorant here than those other more intelligent websites you're visiting.  Aren't you glad it only took you 6 days to learn this?

Educational answer:  Did you really think you'd get bunch of warm answers to that post?  One of the reasons you might not be getting responses is that you've only been here for a short time.  Lots of folks register, send a heap of emails right off the bat, then wonder why no one answers.  Stick around a while.  Take part in the conversation on the forums, tone down the impatient, sweeping generalization and complaining, and be positive. - yeah, being positive works. I was expecting exactly the answers I got. I kinda gave up on warm answers on day 6 so I settled to get answers the other way. Afterall, I'm not the one who started being a prick, I just asked a question. Everyone else decided to come at me claws out but its nothing I'm not used too. How do you think I'm can be such a smartass now? Its called learning from example.


My now "canned" response...

You'll have to forgive the responses that you get to this question... it gets asked at least once per week.  However, for the sake of brevity, here is what you'll get in a nutshell...

No response is a response.

There is no obligation to respond to an unsolicited email... do you reply to the junk mail you get in your mailbox?

Subs are overwhelmed with messages and responding to each one is a full-time job.

Too many dominants take a response of any kind as an invitation to continue the conversation.  They seem to think "no" really means "yes" and the sub just needs to be convinced.

Too many dominants cannot handle rejection even if given politely.  A gentle "no thank you" can solicit very rude comments in return.

I'm sure I'm leaving out many other of the standard replies to this question, but I'm sure you get the idea. 

Good luck, here. - Well the people here kinda bring it on themselves, when someone ignores me I consider a variety of possibilties. I'm not one to jump to conclusions so I keep sending until I get that "no thankyou" which if I had gotten the first time I wouldn't have sent all the other stuff. oh, and since I'm not selling anything that I'm currently aware of I don't see how this could be junk mail. Thankyou for the goodluck but I think I have a good idea of what most people on this site are like. 

 
Oh, and BTW whats a one liner? I thought that was in movies?? the messages I sent were more than two paragraphs. 












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SteelofUtah -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:34:03 PM)

a total 1540 words in that last post and none of them giveing anyone a reason to WANT to talk to you.

Are you serious about being upset about this?

Look if this is as thick as your skin gets you are going to be run right out of this place man.

Look screw the No Replies, Post on the Forums I got 100% more profile views and Mail from what I write here than what I put in someones E-mail.

And Another thing .... did it ever occur to you that you just aren't that interesting?

Doesn't matter how well thought out an e-mail is if it makes the person yawn or get defensive who the hell is going to care what you had to say?

Steel 

**edited cause I can't spell**




Leatherist -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:38:31 PM)

I get dates by being fun-not wordy.[:D]




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:40:27 PM)

First of all get the notion out of your head that any one you email, be they sub slave or not owes you a responce to your email. They do not.

Second of all it's online. You'll probably encounter a lot of this, and other behaviors that are less than steller in your opinion.
quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Why?? (3/28/2008 11:57:25 PM)

Dude, I can't speak for any of the ladies here (if there are any here; that remains to be determined [:D] ), but when I hear/read anyone use the word "Master" or "Lord" or "Sir" or what-the-fuck-ever, I start giggling. It's an involuntary response.

In Texas, they say "all hat, no cattle".

Don't worry about shit. I've forgotten my own advice and been a little assholish, myself. Doesn't happen often, though. When it does, well, I find a way to forgive myself. That usually involves apologizing, but, hey, if I'm in the wrong, I'm in the wrong, right? Just because I call myself a "Dom" (Dim is a better descriptor, sometimes) doesn't give me a license to be a cunt.

Eventually you'll find who you need to find. Might not be who you think you need, but she will be.      I had a very brief relationship with a woman last summer who shattered the foundation upon which I had built my "persona". I'm not the same person I was last March. She was the opposite of who I wanted, but exactly who I needed.  I'm still putting myself back together, after over a half year. I'll not go any furthur (see Tom Wolfe, spelling critics); I needed what she provided. We still talk every day, when most people I know would have either done something awful, or ceased communication. Much of the learning is in the daily talking. Same thing for her, in many ways. Not identical, but similar. Reminds me, I need to tell her good morning.

Relax, man. You'll find who and what you need when you have given up needing it. That's how it works. Why that is is a mystery, and is the foundation for almost all art, music, and literature.




MissMagnolia -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 12:11:05 AM)

I just had to unblock you  Hippiekinkster to see what you said in reply to my post.

Jesus, you really need to get over yourself. If you remember and can quote every single thing anyone ever says to you, I'm thinking that you need to get off here and take up birdwatching or something.







hydranmenace -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 12:17:04 AM)

I can see where this guy is coming from, to an extent. At least i could till i saw his second post. Ive had a profile on here for about two years, and ive had very little correspondence, which can be frustrating. I can see why, given the fact that ive only seen 10 active profiles for women id be interested in, in my state, it would be a significant amount of work to reply to every message they get. Im sure it can be overwhelming. On one occasion, i got a simple "thank you but im not interested" which i really appreciated. I think the frustration for me is that id like to improve myself, and my profile. At least if i knew *why* these various subs aren't interested, that would help me as a person. I realize though that expectation is unrealistic. It would be nice, but this isnt a perfect world.
So this being, i think, my first forum post, what could someone new to CM, or someone not having much luck with it, do to improve his or her chances, without coming off as an asshole?




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 1:04:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

I just had to unblock you  Hippiekinkster to see what you said in reply to my post.

Jesus, you really need to get over yourself. If you remember and can quote every single thing anyone ever says to you, I'm thinking that you need to get off here and take up birdwatching or something.




I absolutely knew you were going to take it the wrong way. I don't know why this is.

No, I cannot remember every single thing. Yes, I can remember quite a lot. I have no idea why. This, I didn't remember. I stumbled across the thread following another thread. More than one of us were trying to figure out what happened to the original thread. I thought it had been "invisibled". No, I'm not going to tell you who the other person is.

I am impressed that I got you to block me so rapidly. I guess that means the site I gave you for Kona Peaberry wasn't used. Well, that's OK. I don't drink coffee anymore. Well, here it is again, anyway: http://www.aikanekonacoffee.com/  I also posted a link to John Martinez, the Jamaican coffee-purveyor here in Atlanta. I'll let you search for it again. 3 times is enough.   I think I gave you links for chocolate and some other stuff, too. I'm happy you appreciated what I had to share with you. Peace, sister.




solia -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 1:45:24 AM)

I've dated both doctors and lawyers .. not all that impressive really.  I distinctly had the impression that they thought their prestige should win them some kind of special reprieve from actually being good at sex ...

Only six days on CM and you've experienced (or not) every submissive on here?  Amazing .. simply amazing.  I'm duly impressed by that...but I may just be sleepy

Forgot to add:  I do believe that you've proven your point that you enjoy dishing out humiliation .. however .. does it count if the receiving party wasn't affected? 




solia -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 2:01:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hydranmenace

I can see where this guy is coming from, to an extent. At least i could till i saw his second post. Ive had a profile on here for about two years, and ive had very little correspondence, which can be frustrating. I can see why, given the fact that ive only seen 10 active profiles for women id be interested in, in my state, it would be a significant amount of work to reply to every message they get. Im sure it can be overwhelming. On one occasion, i got a simple "thank you but im not interested" which i really appreciated. I think the frustration for me is that id like to improve myself, and my profile. At least if i knew *why* these various subs aren't interested, that would help me as a person. I realize though that expectation is unrealistic. It would be nice, but this isnt a perfect world.
So this being, i think, my first forum post, what could someone new to CM, or someone not having much luck with it, do to improve his or her chances, without coming off as an asshole?



first, exactly what were/are your expectations of CM and the members of CM?   Avoid being or becoming an asshole ... especially in writing .. that impression lasts forever.  I'd recommend finding a group in your area.  Email me if you need help in finding one. Avoid 'masterhood' for as long as you can.  I find that people who don't focus on this or vehemently claim this have more success.  Just have fun with each individual person and continue to always learn and laugh. 

I get canned messages from seeking subs .. I reply with a 'you really need to read my profile before you send me a serial message'  I never hear from them again which is fine because my criteria is rather high (must be local among other things) 




Indemnis -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 2:17:22 AM)

<Fast reply>
In the words of Arnold,
Stop whining!
It's not attractive.  You come on here and bitch and moan about no one talking to you and no one liking you.  And you expect people to think you're mature and good Dom material?
Goodness.  I actually sympathised with you until I read your second post on here... (I think someone up above said the same, if so *quote*)
But then you did little more than prove what everyone was saying.




hydranmenace -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 2:18:21 AM)

My expectations I keep within the realm of realism. I don't expect or want random one nighters. I know what I am interested in and I am also aware that I lack experience, so for that reason I am seeking people to talk to and learn from. There is a munch in my area which I have attended but I live in the middle of nowhere, so it is still quite a drive to attend. If something more serious were to develop, that would be good but it is not expected. This is literally a virtual world, where people can be anything they want to be, so I know there are going to be people just playing games, not being real, etc.
As far as avoiding being or becoming an asshole, believe me, I do my best. Its my intention to be respectful of everyone. No one here or anywhere else 'owes me' anything. Of course I expect the same. It's a fine line though between being or sounding like and asshole, and being or sounding decisive and confident. submissives are not, in my admittedly limited experience, attracted to anyone claiming to be a Dom/me who sounds like a whining complaining or indecisive individual. I have been classified as "emotionally impaired" since i was a teenager. Emotions, and how people percieve them, are occasionally a mystery to me. There are times when I may sound arrogant, or like an asshole, and honestly just do not realize it. This is something I work on, which is why I appreciate replies to messages that include constructive criticism. This includes your remarks and I thank you for them.




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