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TreasureKY -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 5:39:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Well the people here kinda bring it on themselves, when someone ignores me I consider a variety of possibilties. I'm not one to jump to conclusions so I keep sending until I get that "no thankyou" which if I had gotten the first time I wouldn't have sent all the other stuff. oh, and since I'm not selling anything that I'm currently aware of I don't see how this could be junk mail. Thankyou for the goodluck but I think I have a good idea of what most people on this site are like.


*sighs*  I'm not even sure what to say to you at this point, MasterDark, other than I feel a little sorry for you.  You are obviously a fairly intelligent young man, but I get the impression that you are going to have a rough time ahead of you in life.  Please take what I say to you here with the genuine warmth and goodwill in which it is given... the mother in me despairs for the all the unnecessary anguish before you.

*sighs again*  I wish that mastering life was easy to describe... that there was a quick and painless way to explain all the lessons one can learn throughout childhood that help bring about the contentment of maturity.  Alas, there is not and because of that, this will seem abrupt and brutal...

While you may feel this is an unfair assessment based on the two simple posts that you have made, I am afraid you are not ready to be a master.  I know you won't like that and I am sorry, but it is the truth.  If you were to take the time to search through the forums here, you would find that in all the threads where it is discussed what it takes to be a master there is a common thread that mastering oneself is a primary, if not first, step to take.

I cannot tell you how to get there, but I can say that what you've shown so far shows a lack of self-mastery and maturity.  If you genuinely wish to be a master, then I would recommend you look into yourself and explore some of the traits that make a man (or woman) a master of themselves and desired by others.  It only takes an open mind and a desire to learn.  Self-awareness, confidence without arrogance, patience, thoughtfulness, humility, perceptiveness, sensitivity, respectfulness, wisdom and honor would be good places to start.




TreasureKY -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 5:49:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hydranmenace

... So this being, i think, my first forum post, what could someone new to CM, or someone not having much luck with it, do to improve his or her chances, without coming off as an asshole?


Your profile seems very open and honest for someone who is curious and simply looking for friends and conversation.  That is a great place to start and you are ahead of many others in that respect, but if you are ultimately seeking more than that, I'd suggest providing a bit more information.  You might start with what you feel a Master/slave relationship should be like... what it is that you expect and what you can provide.

Here's a few threads that my own dominant started shortly after we met... I'd recommend you read them carefully, he's a wise man. 

How to succeed in your search...

How to succeed in your search - The "Numbers" Game...

How to succeed in your search - Hunting the femsub Part I

Best of wishes.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 6:00:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hydranmenace

I can see where this guy is coming from, to an extent. At least i could till i saw his second post. Ive had a profile on here for about two years, and ive had very little correspondence, which can be frustrating. I can see why, given the fact that ive only seen 10 active profiles for women id be interested in, in my state, it would be a significant amount of work to reply to every message they get. Im sure it can be overwhelming. On one occasion, i got a simple "thank you but im not interested" which i really appreciated. I think the frustration for me is that id like to improve myself, and my profile. At least if i knew *why* these various subs aren't interested, that would help me as a person. I realize though that expectation is unrealistic. It would be nice, but this isnt a perfect world.
So this being, i think, my first forum post, what could someone new to CM, or someone not having much luck with it, do to improve his or her chances, without coming off as an asshole?



Thats easy. You are being polite and respectful. thats a start. You aren't bashing subs because you haven't found one. Thats another good plus on your side. The Op is being negative and arrogant, calling himself  Master whatever at 20. Calling himself a Master at things he has no business to appoint himself a Master of. You see, calling yourself a expert at fireplay at 20 is just ridiculous and as a sub, I am going to value my safety and stay away. A little humility and patience and maturity goes along way here. Keep posting on the forums Hydranmenace and continue to be humble, patient and polite and mature. the arrogance and tantrums of youth are really not appreciated by the strong submissives here. Lucky for you, you seem to have the control needed to be a good Master. Good luck to you.




sirsholly -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:14:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987
[sm=ofcourse.gif] - No, I tried making freinds the other way and it wasn't working.


you're kiddin'





sirsholly -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:23:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987
 
Y'all are mean, vicious women.  MEAN I tell ya.  Now I, sweet, innocent, even (dare I say it), angelic, would NEVER respond to someone this way.  NEVER.  Y'all should be ashamed.

SweetSubblyCali - wow, finally someone I can take seriously cause they're not an asshole. thats one out of the entire site. I'm amazed to get even that. thankyou SweetSubblyCali for showing me that maybe there are some people here who aren't completly full of themselves.




I have never been good at judging distances...but i'd have to say...oh...at least 15 feet over his head?

holly
*bowing to Cali...the undisputed GODDESS of scarcasm*




Griswold -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:31:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??


I respond very well to cash.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:37:18 AM)



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I have never been good at judging distances...but i'd have to say...oh...at least 15 feet over his head?

holly
*bowing to Cali...the undisputed GODDESS of scarcasm*




Yes, yes yes.I got such satisfaction from her post and response.
Cali is my Idol. I adore the Goddess....




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:39:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??


Nothing worse than a whining temper tantrum throwing Dom-a-be.




sirsholly -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:42:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19



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I have never been good at judging distances...but i'd have to say...oh...at least 15 feet over his head?

holly
*bowing to Cali...the undisputed GODDESS of scarcasm*




Yes, yes yes.I got such satisfaction from her post and response.
Cali is my Idol. I adore the Goddess....



think we can get her to add it to her sig line?




kdsub -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:47:22 AM)

I believe the following comment to be true and not rude but just the way things are.

In a lawful free society the person giving is truly in control…not the taker. This is often a shock to dominants…especially with naive inflated egos.

Please… I am not say you have an inflated ego but changing your perspective from… “I’m dominate…I deserver your service and response” to “How can I convince this sub I am worthy of their service” will get you a much better response.

Butch




Leatherist -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:51:13 AM)

They aren't into you.

Get over it.




Gemini1766 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:57:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Y'all are mean, vicious women.  MEAN I tell ya.  Now I, sweet, innocent, even (dare I say it), angelic, would NEVER respond to someone this way.  NEVER.  Y'all should be ashamed.

SweetSubblyCali


No, you never would.
You'd kneel looking all perfectly subby, eyes cast downwards (so they can't see the smirk and evil gleam in your eyes) and rip them apart in such a way as to take them as many days as their intelligence is sub 100 to process that the sweetness was a lie and the words were all backhanded compliments that really were cruel torment. By which time you'd be well out of reach and safe.
No, Cali, sweety, you'd never... [;)]




Gemini1766 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 7:58:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I believe the following comment to be true and not rude but just the way things are.

In a lawful free society the person giving is truly in control…not the taker. This is often a shock to dominants…especially with naive inflated egos.

Please… I am not say you have an inflated ego but changing your perspective from… “I’m dominate…I deserver your service and response” to “How can I convince this sub I am worthy of their service” will get you a much better response.

Butch
I'm with you on this one, Butch.




meatcleaver -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 8:06:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

Why is it that so many slaves or subs on collar me who say they are "looking" never respond to messages people send them? It's extremely rude and quite frustrating, especiallyif you spend a lot of time typoing something and it just gets ignored. Only on collar me do I encounter this kind of ignorance and I'm just really curious as to why this is??


It seems to me most women on the internet are cock teasers, if you want to actually meet someone it is far better to meet someone in the real world. Personally I don't bother about the internet, I'm friendly and respond to someone if they sent me a message but I never take meeting seriously because there are usually always so many conditions attached to meeting. Anyway, I live in a place where meeting someone is so easy so I guess I can be rather cynical.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 8:07:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: solia

I've dated both doctors and lawyers .. not all that impressive really.  I distinctly had the impression that they thought their prestige should win them some kind of special reprieve from actually being good at sex ...

Only six days on CM and you've experienced (or not) every submissive on here?  Amazing .. simply amazing.  I'm duly impressed by that...but I may just be sleepy

Forgot to add:  I do believe that you've proven your point that you enjoy dishing out humiliation .. however .. does it count if the receiving party wasn't affected? 


*snicker*




hydranmenace -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 8:35:44 AM)

Thank you for those resources, i will read them soon. I did at one time have a 'basic philosophy' on my profile, but i was told it was long winded :) so i took it down. I'll dig and put it back up, or rewrite it. It isn't hard to write out. I appreciate the thoughts.

lusciouslips19, thank you for the compliments and advice. I know i have a ways to go before i call myself a master of anything. I have to start somewhere though. Hopefully posting like this will be a good start on CM. I've already voraciously devoured every related site with useful information i could find. I would like something serious to develop with someone eventually, i don't to downplay that. It's just that for now, until I am meeting people and given the lack of subs in my state (at least who are not hidden) it's more realistic, and probably more useful, to just chat and make some friends.




TreasureKY -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 8:43:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hydranmenace

Thank you for those resources, i will read them soon. I did at one time have a 'basic philosophy' on my profile, but i was told it was long winded :) so i took it down. I'll dig and put it back up, or rewrite it. It isn't hard to write out. I appreciate the thoughts.


You are welcome.  As for your philosophy, it doesn't need to be long and detailed... there are so many different ideas about what people want from this lifestyle, it doesn't hurt to give a brief look into what it is that you envision.  While some people don't care for it and others feel it is over-simplified, this article seems to offer a good start in creating a brief description of who you are and what you are looking for.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 10:46:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hydranmenace

Thank you for those resources, i will read them soon. I did at one time have a 'basic philosophy' on my profile, but i was told it was long winded :) so i took it down. I'll dig and put it back up, or rewrite it. It isn't hard to write out. I appreciate the thoughts.

lusciouslips19, thank you for the compliments and advice. I know i have a ways to go before i call myself a master of anything. I have to start somewhere though. Hopefully posting like this will be a good start on CM. I've already voraciously devoured every related site with useful information i could find. I would like something serious to develop with someone eventually, i don't to downplay that. It's just that for now, until I am meeting people and given the lack of subs in my state (at least who are not hidden) it's more realistic, and probably more useful, to just chat and make some friends.


Well, I tell ya. many have come on these message boards for friendship and found love. You get to know people and make great friends here whether you meet them or not. I have seen many start out bantering on the forums and then become a couple. Ask Stephann...
So I have no doubt that if you stick around posting some lovely sub will fall for you hard. You have all the tools to make up the character of a good and caring Master.




domahpet -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 10:51:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

loves it when there is someone younger than me on the boards ... yay for 20 year old knife play "experts".. - oh yeah, someone who's 20 can't possibly know anything now can they??
 
Y'all are mean, vicious women.  MEAN I tell ya.  Now I, sweet, innocent, even (dare I say it), angelic, would NEVER respond to someone this way.  NEVER.  Y'all should be ashamed.

SweetSubblyCali - wow, finally someone I can take seriously cause they're not an asshole. thats one out of the entire site. I'm amazed to get even that. thankyou SweetSubblyCali for showing me that maybe there are some people here who aren't completely full of themselves.

 


whatd you say Steel? 1500+ words? i couldnt finish after this part. buddy you got it soooooooooooooo backwards i damn near fell off my seat. that first paragraph WAS IN FACT A COMPLIMENT TO YOU.  as for the rest (omg Cali i love you so much!), maybe you should do a search or something, i dont know.
im feeling kinda bad that you missed the entire point of any of your responses. its your own negativity that is pushing you away, not anyone here.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why?? (3/29/2008 10:58:18 AM)

What Domah said...

( I couldn't get past the first couple of sentences)




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