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The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:14:31 PM   
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Hello, all,
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I guess since I'm wanting more of a man's POV, this was the most logical place. It doesn't involve aspects of BDSM so much as just behavior in general. And ladies, I'm sure that some of you have gone through similar things, so feel free to pipe in also! :)

Here are a couple of recent scenarios that I've encountered:

A man contacts me and introduces himself with a very nice, informative, long e-mail. He's attractive, educated, intelligent, etc. I get really excited about him. He tells me that he has to go out of the country for a week and won't be in touch. No problem there. He gets back in town and calls me, but he's very busy and getting ready to go on another business trip, so it's a rather short phone call. He says he'll call me when he gets back in town, which is a week later. Again, no problem. I'm a white-collar (no pun intended...ha!) professional and understand how the job works. For a week after he is back in town, he doesn't call or write -- but he logs on to CM every day. I finally send him a respectful e-mail and tell him that he seems too busy for a relationship and/or he just isn't all that into me, and I wish him luck with his search. He e-mails me back and says that he didn't call or e-mail because when he got back to the office, everything was crazy, then he got a cold, etc., but that he was still *very* interested. My response was that I felt that if he really was as interested as he said, in the age of cell phones and e-mail, he could have contacted me at some point over the 3 weeks since we had first exchanged e-mails. He never replied to that.

The second scenario involves a man who e-mailed me, we liked each other, etc., and I gave him my phone number on a Tuesday. I didn't get a phone call from him, and by Sunday, I'll admit that I was a bit put out (probably due to the first scenario). I e-mailed him and said that if he wasn't interested, that was okay, but please just let me know so that I wouldn't be expecting a phone call. He e-mailed me back and politely told me that he had been out of town for the Easter holiday weekend and that's why he hadn't called.

I do understand that there are people out there who are probably just phone number collectors, married, etc. I don't think these guys were, but of course it's possible (this is the Internet, after all). But this is a very common thing that happens frequently not only to me, but also to some of my female friends, so I'd appreciate a man's view on it.

My ultimate questions are these: Men, when a woman gives you her phone number, is it unrealistic of her to expect a phone call within a certain amount of time? And if you can't call, is it unrealistic for her to expect an e-mail explaining why you haven't called yet?

To me, it just seems like common courtesy that if you get a phone number, you should use it within a few days -- even if it's just to touch base and say hello -- instead of leaving a woman wondering what the heck happened.

Sorry this has been so long, but I wanted to give you a complete scenario to see if I'm being unrealistic about the calling/not calling thing.

Thanks in advance for your inputs!

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:17:29 PM   
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Well, really unless there is a telappointment when I agree to call, that we have talked about.........no............I don't see that as either disrespectful or not interested. 

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:19:53 PM   
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The answer is as numerous as there are men. No easy answer.
For what it's worth, if he was able to log on CM but couldn't take the time to call you, he's not worth your time.

The second one, that sounds like he may be in a relationship. If I'm single and interested in a woman, and get her number, I'll be calling.


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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:25:09 PM   
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Your problem is raising your expectations too quickly.  Don't expect much until you've been given solid reason to believe you'll get it.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:28:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, really unless there is a telappointment when I agree to call, that we have talked about.........no............I don't see that as either disrespectful or not interested. 


Good point, but if a man were really interested, wouldn't he want to call sooner and not let a week or longer go by? Although I haven't experienced it, there have been situations in which my best friend has given out her phone number, and 3-4 weeks have passed before the guy calls. At that point, she doesn't even remember who he is. :)

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:31:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

You're problem is raising your expectations too quickly.  Don't expect much until you've been given solid reason to believe you'll get it.


I don't disagree with you, LA, although I suppose I just consider it common courtesy to call if someone trusts you enough to give out their phone number in the first place -- if the interest level is there. I suppose if the tables were turned and I were the pursuer, I'd call them the next day if at all possible. But then, I'm a major stickler for good manners, and my expectations, as you said, may be too high.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:32:49 PM   
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well, oftimes, men are mulling it over in their heads, it is some stress to be the one to have to approach all the time, come up with clever and witty shit, get smacked down with rejections.

Kinda like paying bills, they might put it off for a while, and hope not to appear to eager to snag that pussy.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:35:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gemini1766

The answer is as numerous as there are men. No easy answer.
For what it's worth, if he was able to log on CM but couldn't take the time to call you, he's not worth your time.

I pretty much decided that as well. Dammit -- 'cause I really liked him and was interested in getting to know him better.

The second one, that sounds like he may be in a relationship. If I'm single and interested in a woman, and get her number, I'll be calling.

That's what I would think. But, it could be that neither one was really "all that into me," despite what they said. :)

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:38:21 PM   
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quote:

well, oftimes, men are mulling it over in their heads, it is some stress to be the one to have to approach all the time, come up with clever and witty shit, get smacked down with rejections. Kinda like paying bills, they might put it off for a while, and hope not to appear to eager to snag that pussy.


I certainly wouldn't want to have to be the one to be the pursuer and have to deal with the rejection. Ugh.

But we want them to appear eager (okay, not too eager for *just* the pussy...but to get to know us in order to eventually get it).

Hm. Hope that made sense.



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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:45:18 PM   
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it does, and it is still alotta stress, maybe you just need to take a wait and see for a little, you can bet if they are thinking on it, they are also thinking that somebody else is hunting that shit up too.......

Some guys, like some women can live with coulda tho......as in see?  I coulda got that..what a bright boy I am.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 7:55:39 PM   
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Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 8:47:59 PM   
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????

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 8:50:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MisterStrongWill

????



MisterStrongWill, assuming that the question marks were for the "shoulda, woulda, coulda," it was in response to Ron's post:

"Some guys, like some women can live with coulda tho......as in see? I coulda got that..what a bright boy I am."

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 9:07:17 PM   
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It seems to me the most diligent, hardworking and earnest will win the prize.

Be worth the effort and wait for one who is willing to do what it takes to win.


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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/30/2008 9:19:43 PM   
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So did the last one ASK for your phone number, or did you just pony it up?  If you just ponied it up and rather quickly, he may think you give it out to everybody indiscriminately.

I've had guys send me their numbers in the very first contact email, and I certainly never call them.  I've had people that I consider friends on here say, "if you need to talk, my number is xxxxxxx".  And I've had people ask if we can talk on the phone.  But I don't think I've ever just given it to someone that I might be interested in without some sort of conversation about it, which means I know what the expectation is.

Edited to add:  The mere act of giving out your number does not obligate someone to use it... just as sending someone an email does not obligate them to respond to it.

Cali

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/31/2008 6:26:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Edited to add:  The mere act of giving out your number does not obligate someone to use it... just as sending someone an email does not obligate them to respond to it.


Oh Cali! You never call, you never write...I thought I meant something to you!!    

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/31/2008 10:05:11 AM   
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Christina... I keep calling, but HoneyMaster keeps intercepting!  I swear! 

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/31/2008 11:50:18 AM   
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Personally, I am more comfortable with emails than phone calls.  My Daddy has my number and uses it less than once a month.  I don't expect Him to call me to chat, and I ask permission before I call Him though He has never told me that I have to.

As a frequent business traveler, I often bring up my internet browser which has Collar Me on one of the pages.  It automatically signs me in but that doesn't mean that I am checking it.  These men really could be into you but simply not live up to your telephone etiquette expectations.


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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/31/2008 12:00:43 PM   
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I keep expecting cali to call me also. Mmmm I guess that I will have to give her my number one of these days. OP us men have the same problem with women. Why do women push for a phone call when they can use their computer mike for free. If you refuse to give them your number they will give you a cell phone to use.

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RE: The Callback (or Not!) - 3/31/2008 12:57:01 PM   
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I think it all depends on the male and how long you have been talking.

I was talking to 'Daddy' on CM for a few days before moving to msn and then after a few more days i gave him my number and I didn't think he was interested as he never used it but then a few days later he sent a pic of his cat to me and we met later that day


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