RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive

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tsatske -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 7:35:08 AM)
quote: But it should be noted that it doesn't mean the person BECOMES a bisexual- it simply means that they will have sex with who they are told to have sex with. I don't think you can order someone to change sexual orientation just because they make the rules. Absolutely, LA. i personally see bi women as having a variety of possible bi-sexual orientations. I am bi. i am aware that some women are bi curious. and then there are those that i call 'bi if Master says i'm bi'. i have no problem with what they do, if it works for them. and, much like many of those women, i will be with whomever Master tells me to be with. but i do not prefer having sex with strait women, or with the 'bi if Master says i'm bi' crowd. it's not that i mean to be snobbish. i just find sex somewhat more enjoyable with people who actually enjoy having sex with me.

solvr70 -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 7:37:58 AM)
Assumptions are risky things. This would be a BIG, incorrect assumption.

beargonewild -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 7:40:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick I read it as, "I want a bisexual submissive, therefore, even if you are not bisexual, you will be when you are with me, because I make all the rules." I did not read it as "all submissives are bisexual." Cali But it should be noted that it doesn't mean the person BECOMES a bisexual- it simply means that they will have sex with who they are told to have sex with. I don't think you can order someone to change sexual orientation just because they make the rules. Yet a person would still have to have that desire them self before they'd have sex with someone of their own gender. I can't envision anyone who is totally against same sex encounters doing so based upon someone ordering them to.

sabirah -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 7:52:08 AM)
correct the negative judgement.? I think not. the meaning of my post.. is to get a response. negative or not.. It is not my place to correct anyone for their thoughts. nor is it my place to quote the entire post so that one might see the full context. again.. it was a general question it was not directed to anyone particular. quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists sabirah, But neither did you correct the negative judgement made against the writer of the words that were taken out of context. The thread could have been started without putting in that exact quote which lead people to know exactly who you were referring to. I just find it unfortunate that you didn't at least say that the writer you quoted did not support the idea that prompted this thread. Knight's Kyra

SassySarijane -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 8:06:06 AM)
Fast reply: The wording of your OP implied that that line was in the profile text rather than the journal and neglected to mention it was the title of an essay in the member's journal. You cast a negative implication over it and led others to make assumptions based on your OP. I took the time when the member in question posted to enlighten others and went to his profile when the link he provided didn't work. I read it for myself and it is nothing like the title and your OP would lead others to believe. I encourage others to go and read the journal entry for yourselves as I did and as kyra did.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 10:00:10 AM)
quote: ...I am curious to learn, Is this a common way to think?... around here, it appears to be quite common for folks to assume that "a" submissive = __________. the only thing this slave would put in that blank and feel good about would be "a unique individual".

Prinsexx -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 10:12:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch New terminology I just heard the other day: Bar-Sexual: Girls who make out with each other in bars or social settings simply for the attention it gets them... Here's another: bi-sensual. A sort of consensual attitude twards fucking either/or/both

KnightofMists -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 10:16:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sabirah correct the negative judgement.? I think not. Of course not... but obviously you think it rather appropriate to post in a manner that will cause such judgements in the first place. Have to love how people avoid taking responsibility for the consequences of actions.

everhope -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 10:39:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mbes I've come up with a phrase that suits me--- bi-willing. I'm not bisexual by orientation and I'm not curious anymore, but with the right woman I can and do enjoy myself and her. Works for my other half, perhaps that is what the profile in question was expressing? thanks for this insight..mbes. this is how i feel also. i have enjoyed being with women. all of my experiences have been with women that a loving friendship was in place. i think with those that our friendship turned physical it just evolved in a natural way. once it was whole bunch of wine and curiosity. may we all find our bliss, everhope

sabirah -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 10:58:42 AM)
greetings to all, my curiosity has once again only gotten me into trouble. to clarify my reason for the post in the first place. As I was looking around, reading profiles this particular one caught my eye, as it says in bold and very big letters Of Course You Are Bi, You're A Submissive. After reading His entire post, His title for his article left a provoking thought in my mind, wondering, was that statement a common thought. Although that is not HIS views, that is why I was protecting his privacy. I was thinking that there are Dominants/Masters who share and feel, exactly the way the title is and was posted. I wanted to hear from all who had anything to add or share on this subject. SFCityDom: I sincerely meant no disrespect. quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: sabirah correct the negative judgement.? I think not. Of course not... but obviously you think it rather appropriate to post in a manner that will cause such judgements in the first place. Have to love how people avoid taking responsibility for the consequences of actions.

SFCityDom -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 11:00:40 AM)
I wrote the essay. Sabirah, don't worry about it. There is nothing to take personally. The title was to provoke and it did. I guess I did my job. However, if folks wish to read the complete essay, it is the most recent entry in my journal or you can find it here. It is basically about making assumption. Hopefully the irony is not lost on anyone. -Matthew aka SFCityDom. Hardcore Romance

Gleegal67 -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 11:15:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sabirah glancing at some profiles and this one caught my eye. I am curious to learn, Is this a common way to think? Here is His opening line: "Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive" He really believes that all those "Girls Gone Wild" videos are true when there is no camera crew present...and of course...alcohol!

Gleegal67 -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 11:21:15 AM)
I guess I should read all the posts, before posting! I read SFCityDom essay, I enjoyed it and thought it was well thought out and communicated very well. No irony lost here...and I apologize for my flippant remark...but I just couldn't help it after reading the original post! :)

solvr70 -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 12:39:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch New terminology I just heard the other day: Bar-Sexual: Girls who make out with each other in bars or social settings simply for the attention it gets them... lol - OK, that is a really good one. Knowing that it would work, in a BIG way [;)]

MsHonor -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 1:23:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wheldrake I agree completely that willingness to perform homosexual acts on command doesn't have much to do with bisexuality. On the other hand, I have to respectfully disagree with your "binary" view of bisexuality. Ah... That bears some clarification. I view bisexuality (or, the sexual spectrum in general) as infinitely varied... But the clinical definition of the word bisexual is binary. You're attracted to both sexes, or you're not. One the one end, we have absolute heteros - only ever attracted to members of the opposite sex. On the other, absolute homosexuals - only ever attracted to members of the same sex. Everyone in between could be, to some degree, be it theoretical or practical, termed technically bisexual. Clinically speaking. Now... Ad in the realities of gender variance... And the hard-core technical, clinical definition may become completely dry-docked... :-)

hopelesslyInvo -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 1:26:31 PM)
no wonder i couldn't find it, it was right in front of my face.

slavegirljoy -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 3:50:25 PM)
Fast Reply: Technically speaking, i am not bisexual, since i'm not sexually attracted to both men and women. And, in fact, i have never had sex with another women or wanted to have sex with another woman, except when told to do so by the Dominant man i was involved with. Still, i list myself as being Bisexual on my CollarMe profile. Even though i only have sex with other women because my Dominant partners have desired, expected and, even required it of me, that doesn't mean that i'm suffering for their delight and not recieving any enjoyment from it. Naturally, my body experiences sensual sensations during sexual activity, regardless of the gender of the other person. However, the truth is that in any other setting, i would not be actively seeking out a woman to have sex with and i would not classify myself as a bisexual woman. But, since CollarMe requires everyone to choose a Sexuality of either Straight, Bisexual, Gay, or Lesbian, i choose Bisexual. CollarMe doesn't offer bi-willing or any other choices. And, to list myself as Straight would be misleading, since i readily, frequently and, eagerly engage in sexual relations with other women, even if it is only at the command of my Master to do so. Basically, i consider this to be just another 'label' that should be openly and honestly discussed between people who are considering the possibility of entering into an intimate relationship with with each other. joyOwned servant of Master David

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 3:53:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild Yet a person would still have to have that desire them self before they'd have sex with someone of their own gender. I can't envision anyone who is totally against same sex encounters doing so based upon someone ordering them to. I can respect that, but it does happen. Also remember that bi does not equal "desiring to have sex with anyone" I may be bisexual, but I've been ordered to have sex with people I personally did NOT wish to do so, had very strong feelings AGAINST doing so in which there not only was no attraction, but there was a lot of DEtraction going on on very many levels. But I did it, because I was ordered to and I committed to obeying and it didn't go against who I am.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 3:55:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch New terminology I just heard the other day: Bar-Sexual: Girls who make out with each other in bars or social settings simply for the attention it gets them... ROFL OMG that's so perfect...maybe we need to do a "sister-sexual"- girls who put on a show of being sisterly to make their dom happy when they really want to claw eachothers eyes out?

Lumus -> RE: Of Course You Are Bi. You’re A Submissive (4/7/2008 3:58:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross ROFL OMG that's so perfect...maybe we need to do a "sister-sexual" puts hand up Picture request!

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