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Adelphus -> Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 8:39:51 PM)
Okay, so I admit it. I click on those ads for the kink.com sites all the time. Then these new ones came up from a different company, infernalrestraints and hardtied, so of course I had to peruse those. But on hardtied.com they had a girl in this setup; http://www.hardtied.com/images/updates/2008/02_27mya2/mya2_06.jpg http://www.hardtied.com/images/updates/2008/02_27mya2/mya2_15.jpg Does this worry anyone else? I thought this sort of thing was ultra dangerous. Pictures come from 'Mya' on this page. You have to scroll down a ways; http://www.hardtied.com/pages/full0.php

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 8:42:51 PM)
It does worry me. I am gonna assume that because both feet are on the floor, they arent expecting much damage to occur, as well as the fact someone is probably standing closer to her than we can see.

Leatherist -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 8:43:23 PM)
They do it for wank appeal. I'd never do half of the shit that those sites show-but I'm not all about seeking cash from a bunch of jaded jerk-offs either.

Lynnxz -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 8:46:42 PM)
Sites like these aren't what you'd see in a club, there's many people involved in every shoot, and safety is paramount, regardless of what you see in the photoshoot. I'd bet you a dollar that noose isn't attached to anything sturdy at the top. Hell, someone might just be up on a ladder holding it. I'm doing a noose scene coming up actually. Since I'll be in ballet shoes, and standing on something else that's not considered sturdy by any means, the photographer has decided to use an additional harness around my chest, and then it will be edited out later, because we are only doing still images, not film. There will also be a people just out side of the shot, who can catch me if I lose my balance and fall like a retard. [:D] On the other hand, do people do it privately? Hells yes. Is it dangerous? Yes. So is driving a motorcycle, sky diving, and shit tons of other things. Sometimes a little danger is exactly what someone needs to make them happiest. No one leads a truely safe, sterile life. One person's wtf factor could be the next guys favorite activity. :D

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:35:42 PM)
Trust me, people do and enjoy a lot worse than you'll see on any profile- they just don't do it openly cuz of people like you.

proudsub -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:38:37 PM)
What would worry me are those that might try to copy a scene like that and not take the safety precautions mentioned by others.[:o]

DiurnalVampire -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:43:13 PM)
The idea that they are edited photos, made to look far more dangerous than they really are, doesnt worry me. The fact that you cant tel tey are edited and there is eventualy going to be someone who tries to copy it,and some sub stupid enough to let them, does sometimes. DV

SteelofUtah -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:48:24 PM)
Auto Erotic Asphixiation (Sp?) It has Volume upon Volue written about it and each year in the US alone there are at least 200 cases of Death from this very act. In many situations it is practiced alone. Some variations are choaking and Throat Lodging It is a common kink. Worry all you want. It doesn't change the fact that people get off on it. I once knew a woman who wanted to have her labia lips cut right before sex because the sweat and seminal fluids would burn on the fresh wounds the Outer labia were so scared she had little feeling so she turned to cutting the inner labia flesh. Remember People "My Kink is NOT your kink and your Kink is NOT my Kink" there is a reason we are all here and that is because we are not part of the Mainstream Norm. If you start throwing people out you have to ask yourself are you kinky enough that someone would cast you out for it? I know I am. Steel

ownedgirlie -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:50:04 PM)
No, they don't worry me.

SailingBum -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:50:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Trust me, people do and enjoy a lot worse than you'll see on any profile- they just don't do it openly cuz of people like you. Nods to LA. I was expecting something much worse than that. That was actually tame from my point of view. I didn't see any "ohhhhhh danger" there. If she passes out sharp knife cut the rope bout 5 or 10 sec. end of issue. Been there done that have a tee shirt. You really need to worry about the safety of your kinks... not someone elses kinks. BadOne

Lordandmaster -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 9:58:15 PM)
Yes, exactly. If she's really suspended by a rope with a noose around her neck, it's very dangerous. Chances are, that's not what's really going on in those photos. But some dumass is going to try it at home anyway. (Not that someone really needs a website like this to get the idea of hanging his bitch by the neck.) quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire The idea that they are edited photos, made to look far more dangerous than they really are, doesnt worry me. The fact that you cant tel tey are edited and there is eventualy going to be someone who tries to copy it,and some sub stupid enough to let them, does sometimes.

Missokyst -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 10:11:30 PM)
It doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary to me. She isn't hanging, she has her feet on the floor. Yes, it is uncomfy, but there isn't anything I can see which is any more dangerous than a lot of stuff we might do. Plus, it is a photoshoot, there are people around. Kyst

SailingBum -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 10:12:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah Auto Erotic Asphixiation (Sp?) It has Volume upon Volue written about it and each year in the US alone there are at least 200 cases of Death from this very act. In many situations it is practiced alone. Some variations are choaking and Throat Lodging It is a common kink. Worry all you want. It doesn't change the fact that people get off on it. Let's put this in perspective. 250,000,000 ppl live in the US 200 ppl died. How many of us have had unprotected sex in our lifetime? 38,000 cases of AIDS were reported last year. Over 1,000,000 yes thats a million were reported since 1981 and a half a million have died... I know what causes me more worry. BadOne

SteelofUtah -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 10:21:13 PM)
Sailing bum don't you watch Southpark AIDS is OUT Cancer is the New AIDS...... Seriously I want saying it is worse or better than anything I was simply saying it is as mainstream as anything else I know of more "Vanilla" People who like to be choked during sex than I know people who enjoy BDSM, so I am trying to figure out what the real concern is. It seems like someone has a Kink the OP doesn't agree with and so we have made a Thread to Stare at the people she thinks are unsafe. I knew a guy who Insisted he knew a woman who got off on Masturbaing with a straight razor. Did he really? Probably not but if one person thought it up I am sure someone else has tried it. Safe Sane and Consentual rarely applies in extreme kink. From my Point of view anyway Steel

SailingBum -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 10:48:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah Sailing bum don't you watch Southpark AIDS is OUT Cancer is the New AIDS...... Seriously I want saying it is worse or better than anything I was simply saying it is as mainstream as anything else I know of more "Vanilla" People who like to be choked during sex than I know people who enjoy BDSM, so I am trying to figure out what the real concern is. It seems like someone has a Kink the OP doesn't agree with and so we have made a Thread to Stare at the people she thinks are unsafe. I knew a guy who Insisted he knew a woman who got off on Masturbaing with a straight razor. Did he really? Probably not but if one person thought it up I am sure someone else has tried it. Safe Sane and Consentual rarely applies in extreme kink. From my Point of view anyway Steel Steel I must have missed that one. I agree with you. When ppl are trying new things they need to think it through with what is the worst case.... along with a exit stratrgy...Not rolling her up in a carpet and tossing her in the lake. The OP for some reason thought it was unsafe. My point is there are a lot worse things than that. Like unprotected sex according to the numbers you and I provided. BadOne

Guilty1974 -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 11:17:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Sites like these aren't what you'd see in a club, Now, is that so? Actually most if not all of the bondages done by hardtied (isn't that the spin-off from Insex?) and hogtied.com are quite feasible if you know how, and the bondages shown on that page are all things I might do in a club. As for the noose thing: Autoerotic asphyxiation is very very very dangerous. This probably isn't autoerotic. And as long as she's standing it's not even asphyxiation (which would be just very dangerous). So no, I don't really worry about this, though indeed there's the risk that someone with insufficient knowledge might try this at home with a partner who is insufficiently aware of the risks to make an informed and free choice. But that's a risk with most things these websites show.

Adelphus -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 11:18:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Trust me, people do and enjoy a lot worse than you'll see on any profile- they just don't do it openly cuz of people like you. Huh? Didn't say there was anything immoral or wrong about it, it just looks particularly unsafe from an accident point of view. If she fainted she could choke or injure her neck. Yeah, there's people around, just seems an awful risk is all. Every rope course and book I've ever learned from has been very adamant about rope around the neck.

Lynnxz -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 11:26:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Guilty1974 Now, is that so? Actually most if not all of the bondages done by hardtied (isn't that the spin-off from Insex?) and hogtied.com are quite feasible if you know how, and the bondages shown on that page are all things I might do in a club. Feasible, yes. I have my doubts if the club around here would allow a noose though, haha. Yours may be a little different. I guess I fail at explaining. :-/ What I meant was that the people who are doing shoots like these for websites take every precaution to avoid too much damage to the model. I'd also imagine that an instructional book would not advise putting rope around someones neck to avoid lawsuits. I don't think the OP was saying that the picture was wrong, I thought they were just kind of worried about the safety aspect of the whole thing.

Guilty1974 -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 11:30:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Adelphus Every rope course and book I've ever learned from has been very adamant about rope around the neck. And yet many more experienced rope riggers just looooove to do a military hog-tie (with rope around the neck, yes). Dangerous? Yes. Would I teach it in my bondage 101 workshops? No, but i might to people who I know to be experienced and careful riggers. Would I be adamant about in a workshop: Sure: don't try this until you both know very very well what you're doing.

Guilty1974 -> RE: Does this worry anyone else? (4/9/2008 11:33:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Feasible, yes. I have my doubts if the club around here would allow a noose though, haha. Yours may be a little different. They do allow breathplay around here, so I my guess is they would allow it, especially if the rigger is known to the staff and competent.

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