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kittinSol -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:34:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

To clarify for those who may just not get it.... or cant read names or sig lines....kitten is a person not a cat.

Some people .....


Glad someone finally noticed [8|] .




mnottertail -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:34:30 AM)

I would suspect that you should think of it as a rather chiding joke, proposing to soften the blows of more mordant statements previously tendered.

Ron




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:35:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

To clarify for those who may just not get it.... or cant read names or sig lines....kitten is a person not a cat.

Some people .....


Glad someone finally noticed [8|] .


i knew off the bat! er...cat!




Raechard -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:38:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten
To clarify for those who may just not get it.... or cant read names or sig lines....kitten is a person not a cat.
Some people .....

Glad someone finally noticed [8|] .

Never, you mean I can stop ringing the RSPCA now?[8|]




Lynnxz -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:39:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

So this doesnt qualify as legitimate discussion of BDSM huh?

Really...who or what are the mods around here afraid of anyway?


Pay attention damnit.  [&:]

There are US Laws that govern the internets. CollarMe doesn't want to get shut down or sued.




kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:43:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

To clarify for those who may just not get it.... or cant read names or sig lines....kitten is a person not a cat.

Some people .....


Glad someone finally noticed [8|] .


I stand corrected on that part of my post, however read the first part...GAGS are not allowed.  As Ron suggested, feel free to send the million to the picture reviewers in appreciation for the thankless job they do, and the other pictures you never see that would make your eyeballs pop out, but until you change government and perception of the outside world, I would not think your chances would improve one iota with sending it, but I'm sure the reviewers would be much happier.

edited to add: and as MOD XI has stated so many times (now who is not paying attention, lol) the MODS do NOT have anything to do with the picture process.  They are too busy on this side doing that job.(hopefully I'm not causing them work at this very moment, lol)




Raechard -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:46:39 AM)

It’s my fault I made a bad joke and gave people the impression it was a picture of a kitten with hands rather than paws and knees

Oh well, never mind.[:D]




kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:49:40 AM)

The rest of my statement originally still holds true in totality even if I was wrong on that, lol.  It's all good.




Wolfandkitten -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:49:47 AM)

Istead of taking a stand to defend the lifestyle of the site they created towards it, they are content to just sit back and let the white collar beaurocrats who wouldnt even know the difference between a bit and a gag make their rules.....We ARE supposed to be adults... this IS more than just a belief and a lifestyle it is OUR CHOICE..... why shouldnt we defend it with everything we have?




kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:52:26 AM)

Then change the government.  Go for it. Until then, don't blame the owners if they don't want to get into possible legalities all because of your picture. It's easy to SAY change the rules....let us know when you have them changed, because that will be when (maybe) you have a right to bitch.  Make sure you ask for a refund while you are waiting![sm=soapbox.gif]




Gemini1766 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:53:19 AM)

Easy, host it on a European based server company's servers. [;)]

The fucking government is becoming more and more the realm of Big Brother. We have the FBI gathering information on Citizens illegally. We have our "two minutes of hate" in spades daily, just watch teh news. And now we have the thought police.

Fucking hell. And why no one really cares to do anything? Because they have been so careful to make it seem to be good for us, to make us safer. If the Founding Fathers had intended us to be safe in such a fashion then they would not have given us so many freedoms and liberties and intended for us to be able to overthrow, by force, our own government.

Revolution, not necessary. Just throw out the old fucks that keep making things worse, throw out all the fucking laws that "protect us all" and ensure that so long as adult interactions are consentual that the government has no ability to interfere. We have too many laws affecting the people, yet the corporations get all kinds of breaks. The goverment has become for the corporations, not the People.

If a person does not want to see a woman bound up and gagegd, they that person should stop looking at the picture that so harm their sensibilities.
If a parent does not want their child to view such "offensive" art, then the parent needs to take personal responsibility and stop blaming others for their ineptness and lack of being part of their childrens' lives.

Damn it all to hell, take responsibility!
Oh, wait, this is the US of A I live in, "no one is at fault for their own actions."[sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]
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GreedyTop -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:53:24 AM)

~FR~

bit gags are associated with pony play which is not in any way beastiality.  in order for it to qualify as beastiality an actual, non-human animal must be involved in a sexual way.
When bits are used on horses, they are not GAGS....

ETA: sorry if this has been said..got tired of [sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]so didn't read all the posts...




Lynnxz -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:53:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

Istead of taking a stand to defend the lifestyle of the site they created towards it, they are content to just sit back and let the white collar beaurocrats who wouldnt even know the difference between a bit and a gag make their rules.....We ARE supposed to be adults... this IS more than just a belief and a lifestyle it is OUR CHOICE..... why shouldnt we defend it with everything we have?


They can't do anything until the laws are changed...No, it's not cool to have Uncle Sam breathing down our necks, but getting the site shut down wouldn't help the situation any.




xxblushesxx -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:57:23 AM)

*walks around in circles mumbling "kitten is a person, not a cat, kitten is a person, not a cat, kitten is a..."*




AquaticSub -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 9:58:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

Istead of taking a stand to defend the lifestyle of the site they created towards it, they are content to just sit back and let the white collar beaurocrats who wouldnt even know the difference between a bit and a gag make their rules.....We ARE supposed to be adults... this IS more than just a belief and a lifestyle it is OUR CHOICE..... why shouldnt we defend it with everything we have?


Ok. You make a website that allows all the pictures and things that you want to see. When you are willing to take the fall, then you can complain.




trappedinamuseum -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 10:02:19 AM)

I'm a little confused by your anger. 

Buy your own domain, put as many pictures of kitten up as you want, and then put a link in your profile.  Hell, charge membership...then..you can control what gets put up there.

Problem solved.

If all that you have to fret about is the fact that you can't show kitten in a ball gag, consider yourself lucky.  I have other things to worry about that professing my rights are being impugned by a site I chose to join.


*darnit Aquatic....you beat me to it!  Stupid internet.




Lynnxz -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 10:02:27 AM)

Here, this is what would happen to CollarMe

quote:



Q: Why did Intersec Interactive, Inc. sell insex.com?

A: There are two main reasons:

(1) The lack of ability to obtain a stable and reliable merchant account with a US bank.
(2) The potential for an annoying, lengthy and expensive obscenity prosecution.


With respect to reason (1), it would seem that the current US administration found itself in the position of being beholden to the anti-erotica religious right, yet at at the same time unable to make any significant inroads against adult producers using the court system. Faced with failed prosecutions and a stubborn court system that repeatedly ruled in favor of adult producers, the administration came up with what some people no doubt thought was a very clever way to do an end run around the legal barriers it faced protecting privacy and freedom of expression. The government went after the banks and the credit card processing companies, warning them that processing transactions for adult businesses ran a high risk of laundering money for terrorism and formally advising them against taking on any new accounts for adult businesses and to take steps to close the accounts of existing ones.

The net result after two years of government pressure is that it is all but impossible to get a merchant account with a US bank for an adult web site. Unfortunately, it would seem that no one thought far enough ahead about what would happen when a several billion dollar a year industry was gradually forced to move their processing overseas - where money laundering for terrorist organizations is a much more real possibility now that all that money increasingly goes through shady banks in Asia and Eastern Europe instead of the US banking system where it used to be able to be monitored effectively.

With respect to reason (2), recent developments related to changes in US law and government policy have made Intersec Interactive, Inc. a clear target for prosecution. Revisions to adult record keeping requirements and the creation of a federal task force specifically targeting producers that create media featuring urination, defication, sadism and masochism have caused Intersec Interactive, Inc. to decide that continuing to produce insex.com from the US would be too great a potential liability.

While Intersec Interactive, Inc. is certain that a potential prosecution would have no chance of success based upon insex.com's artistic and educational value, especially in light of other recent high profile obscenity prosecution failures, the staff is unwilling to fight a lengthy and expensive court battle only to emerge victorious but bankrupt.

The new owner of insex.com, a Dutch citizen with a company based in the Netherlands, is outside the jurisdiction of US law and therefore does not face the problems that Intersec Interactive, Inc. does.






beargonewild -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 10:07:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

Then change the government.  Go for it. Until then, don't blame the owners if they don't want to get into possible legalities all because of your picture. It's easy to SAY change the rules....let us know when you have them changed, because that will be when (maybe) you have a right to bitch.  Make sure you ask for a refund while you are waiting![sm=soapbox.gif]



Then the big question is, how many of the posters here are actually willing to back a protester and not just pay lip service?  Just askin outta curiosity, that's all.




kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 10:10:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: trappedinamuseum

I'm a little confused by your anger. 

Buy your own domain, put as many pictures of kitten up as you want, and then put a link in your profile.  Hell, charge membership...then..you can control what gets put up there.

Problem solved.

If all that you have to fret about is the fact that you can't show kitten in a ball gag, consider yourself lucky.  I have other things to worry about that professing my rights are being impugned by a site I chose to join.


*darnit Aquatic....you beat me to it!  Stupid internet.



Actually, links are not allowed in the profile, lol, but you make an excellent point about them getting a domain...**goes back to other things**




kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 10:11:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beargonewild

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

Then change the government.  Go for it. Until then, don't blame the owners if they don't want to get into possible legalities all because of your picture. It's easy to SAY change the rules....let us know when you have them changed, because that will be when (maybe) you have a right to bitch.  Make sure you ask for a refund while you are waiting![sm=soapbox.gif]


Exactly, but at the moment, I don't see a lot of backers.[;)]


Then the big question is, how many of the posters here are actually willing to back a protester and not just pay lip service?  Just askin outta curiosity, that's all.





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