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MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:11:09 AM)

Precisely, Aquatic.


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

~Fast Reply~

You know... something just occured to me...

There are lots of ways of furthering any particular cause. And your way, OP, is not the only way. CM provides a place for people to get together and talk. It lets people who are completely out share their stories with people who aren't ready yet and it gives hope and resources for those who would like to be completely out. In doing this, CM helps people live more open lives, which allows for more "vanilla" people to realize that their children, parents, best friends, teachers, employees, bosses, etc are kinky, happy and are still the wonderful people that they always were.

CM is definately helping in a quiet but effective way. If you want something with more fireworks, invest the money, time and energy and learn how to make your own site. Organize real time events and make an effort to reach out to the community. Write a book. But don't pass the buck.




Wolfandkitten -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:13:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Wolf, I'm not understanding your position on this.  Help me see how it makes sense.  Let's say I have a party, and there is no admission fee.  You come to my party and you want to stick needles in somebody.  I say "no, I won't let you do that at my party."  You start screaming about your rights to stick needles in somebody.  Have you forgotten the fact that this is my party? Go somewhere else if you don't like my party, just do us all a favor and don't continue to suffer under the delusion that yelling at me about your rights and what my party is supposed to be is going to get you anywhere.

So Joe Schmoe starts a site and he calls it a BDSM site.  He has decided that he will not allow gags or extreme bondage. That is his right, he doesn't even have to tell you WHY he does not allow it, although thru the grapevine here people have extended you the courtesy of trying to explain those reasons.  And now you're trying to argue with those reasons, when in fact, Joe Schmoe doesn't have to have a reason at all.  Heck, he could say "no pictures of people wearing blue shoes" and that would be his right too.

Cali



If it was a tupperware party I would see your point.
But this is a website supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle..right or wrong?
A lifestyle that includes Bondage, D/s, Sadism, and Masochism......correct?
Yet  this site allows itself to be deterred form allowing EVERY ASPECT of the lifestyle to be written or shown.
I didnt know this was COLLARME-lite .... my apologies to anyone I may have offended... but these are my beliefs and like I said we let it continue and some schmuck in an office somwhere is going to say that collar looks offensive it shouldnt be shown in public .....and then what ?




Aileen1968 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:16:00 AM)

Are you still bitching about your picture not getting approved?  Ya know...I just had 14 approved and one declined.  The one declined had previously been on my profile a few months ago and showed me on all fours drinking milk from a bowl.  Meoww.  It didn't get approved this times around for whatever reason...know what I did?  I said "oh well" to myself.  Certainly didn't run to the boards and start complaining about this site.  You should think about how it makes you look...like a little kid throwing a tantrum in the middle of a store because mommy didn't buy you a power rangers.




mnottertail -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:16:20 AM)

...supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle...


Nope, supposition takes a bridge to far in this case, as it usually does, I see nothing in their brochures and documentation that supports this mission or anything of that ilk.

Ron




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:17:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

If it was a tupperware party I would see your point.


So if  it's a vanilla event, you can have a say in your guests' behavior.....but kinky people don't have to be courteous enough to respect their hosts' wishes?  



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But this is a website supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle..right or wrong?
A lifestyle that includes Bondage, D/s, Sadism, and Masochism......correct?
Yet  this site allows itself to be deterred form allowing EVERY ASPECT of the lifestyle to be written or shown.
I didnt know this was COLLARME-lite .... my apologies to anyone I may have offended... but these are my beliefs and like I said we let it continue and some schmuck in an office somwhere is going to say that collar looks offensive it shouldnt be shown in public .....and then what ?


Again - are you fronting the money to fight that legal battle?  Or are you just making noise?




Lynnxz -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:18:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

If it was a tupperware party I would see your point.

But this is a website supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle..right or wrong?  Of Course

A lifestyle that includes Bondage, D/s, Sadism, and Masochism......correct? Pretty much

Yet  this site allows itself to be deterred form allowing EVERY ASPECT of the lifestyle to be written or shown.  Have you ever tried to change a law? This is shit we've been working on for years. There's no "Allowing itself to be deterred" There are sides to BDSM that are illegal to post pictures of unless you have copious amounts of paperwork to back it. Other forms are just illegal, period, and thats the hard truth.






Daddysredhead -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:22:25 AM)

Hi, Wolfie.

I, for one, am stunned out of my mind.  I thought collarme was a site about adopting puppies and kittens, or at the very least rodeo roping.  I must run now and delete my profile.  The horror!  No wonder all these people are so perverted!!!  [:o]

Just kidding, sweetie.  Sorry your pics aren't making it to the screen.  That bites.

~ DRH




lronitulstahp -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:24:41 AM)

[sm=sigh.gif]ok...i gave you links to your senators and members of Congress, to no avail...perhaps this will better explain why these things happen, and perhaps give you some insight on how to make that difference you seem so determined to make.....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVo3nbLYC0
~helpful slut




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:24:56 AM)

You know...when you can't converse respectfully with those that don't share your opinion - no one is going to listen to you.

Got that checkbook out yet?




Lynnxz -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:26:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

[sm=sigh.gif]ok...i gave you links to your senators and members of Congress, to no avail...perhaps this will better explain why these things happen, and perhaps give you some insight on how to make that difference you seem so determined to make.....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVo3nbLYC0
~helpful slut


You and others have provided an amazing amount of info on the how/why  of the laws regarding BDSM. The OP prefers to kick and scream and cry about pictures instead of doing anything productive.  [&:]

I mean, srsly, I posted an entire excerpt from a BDSM pay site that was shut down because of stuff like this, but the op chose to ignore it. >.<




lauren0221 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:27:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

If it was a tupperware party I would see your point.
But this is a website supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle..right or wrong?
A lifestyle that includes Bondage, D/s, Sadism, and Masochism......correct?
Yet  this site allows itself to be deterred form allowing EVERY ASPECT of the lifestyle to be written or shown.
I didnt know this was COLLARME-lite .... my apologies to anyone I may have offended... but these are my beliefs and like I said we let it continue and some schmuck in an office somwhere is going to say that collar looks offensive it shouldnt be shown in public .....and then what ?


I think you are continuing to miss the point. It is easy to say someone else should take a risk when there are no consequences for you. This site, which by the way, does not force you to come here, and costs you nothing (except apparently some moral outrage energy expenditure) can abide by any rules it chooses.






MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:30:18 AM)

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I mean, srsly, I posted an entire excerpt from a BDSM pay site that was shut down because of stuff like this, but the op chose to ignore it. >.<



Right, because it was a logical point.   Got to stop doing that.  

[sm=lalala.gif]




CalifChick -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:31:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten
But this is a website supposedly dedicated to a lifestyle..right or wrong? A lifestyle that includes Bondage, D/s, Sadism, and Masochism......correct?  Yet  this site allows itself to be deterred form allowing EVERY ASPECT of the lifestyle to be written or shown.


The site doesn't "allow itself" to do anything.  The people that own it have said "this is what it is", and that's it.  Show me where it says it is dedicated to a lifestyle, AND the definition of that lifestyle is your definition, AND every single potential aspect of that lifestyle must be allowed to be shown.

I don't see anywhere where it says, "we are the website for BDSM and you will find information about every single aspect of BDSM here, and we will be the champions of free speech and freedom of expression for all people."

Nope.  That is YOUR interpretation.  The party host gets to make the rules, not you, no matter WHAT they want to call their party. 

Cali




Wolfandkitten -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:31:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

[sm=sigh.gif]ok...i gave you links to your senators and members of Congress, to no avail...perhaps this will better explain why these things happen, and perhaps give you some insight on how to make that difference you seem so determined to make.....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVo3nbLYC0
~helpful slut

That link just proved to me where your mentality lies.




Aileen1968 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:32:29 AM)

He can call me whatever he wants.  It doesn't bother me.  I know I'm not a moron and I know that his words...well they speak for themselves and people can form their own opinions. 




rawkmehard -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:34:09 AM)

i'm pretty happy with the fact that there are even sites like this out on the internet.

seriously, if i hadn't found sites like this, i'd still be sitting around wondering if i was the only one who likes the things i like. i didn't know what BDSM even was, and i wouldn't even have found books to help me out otherwise-i would have been too ashamed to look.

honestly, complaining about your pictures not getting approved isn't totally invalid-sometimes the criteria here seems a bit...off? about whose pictures are approved.

but in the grand scheme of things, i'd rather help homeless people, neglected children, and improve education before i went on a huge rant about my pictures not being approved.




lronitulstahp -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:34:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

quote:

ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

[sm=sigh.gif]ok...i gave you links to your senators and members of Congress, to no avail...perhaps this will better explain why these things happen, and perhaps give you some insight on how to make that difference you seem so determined to make.....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVo3nbLYC0
~helpful slut

That link just proved to me where your mentality lies.
Actually it proves where i judged yours to be based on your posts...perhaps i overreached...in that case, my apologies...Are you more a fan of Barney?  Bert and Ernie maybe?  It's been a few years since i taught Kindergarten, but i aim to please...





kc692 -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:34:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

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ORIGINAL: kc692

Then change the government.  Go for it. Until then, don't blame the owners if they don't want to get into possible legalities all because of your picture. It's easy to SAY change the rules....let us know when you have them changed, because that will be when (maybe) you have a right to bitch.  Make sure you ask for a refund while you are waiting![sm=soapbox.gif]

And people like you who choose to act like good little sheep are the reason nothing will ever get done about it



I am no sheep, dear, and I am also not the one with my panties in a wad.




AquaticSub -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:35:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

I didnt know this was COLLARME-lite .... my apologies to anyone I may have offended... but these are my beliefs and like I said we let it continue and some schmuck in an office somwhere is going to say that collar looks offensive it shouldnt be shown in public .....and then what ?


These forums contain threads on breaking bones for fun, rape play, that slaves can never leave - no matter treatment they receive, hanging men by their balls and DIY clit removals.

This site is not BDSM-lite. It's BDSM-legally-smart. If you don't like it, get your money back and lead the charge yourself. Considering how popular collars are with the goth and vanilla culture, I doubt they are in risk but if you feel threatened, organize a march on DC. That will do so much than a website ever could.




ModeratorEleven -> RE: IS THIS AN ADULT BDSM SITE OR NOT? (4/12/2008 11:37:49 AM)

It's pretty clear that this isn't going to go anywhere good. 

The rules here are what they are.  If you don't like them, feel free to spend your time elsewhere.  Enjoy your freedom of choice.

XI





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