Termyn8or
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While you do bandy about facts, how about some other facts.
Nothing is going to change. The best thing for the Palestinians to do is to go into diaspora, something the Jews did a long time ago. It was the best tactical decision, because they could not win. Now the Palestinians can't win.
There is one basic tenet of strategy, it can be expressed a couple of different ways, but one is that he who turns and runs away lives to fight another day. A better way to express it would be that you should choose your battles wisely.
As long as around 30% of the world's economy can be used against them, no matter how up to the nose in debt, they can't win. They need to set their sights on somewhere they can live, because they can't live there.
If they can manage to survive, they probably won't have to wait as long as the Jews did to reconquer the region. This system of debt spending is going to cause the economy to topple. Perhaps if thePalestinian have some fight left in them they should go help the Tibetans or something.
I am sorry that I just don't know what to tell them. This shit is not right, but it is not my doing. And many people, even not Arab or Muslem take exception to the level of foreign aid from the US to Israel. I do.
We went and helped in WW2, we could have ignored it. The Balfour agreement was England I believe not us, but even if it was us, does it say we have to fucking support the country for their entire life ? Bullshit.
What was it last year, seven BILLION ? How fucking long do you think we can keep this up ? Let's do some quick math.
In the US 300,000,000 people.
A third have good reason not to work because they are young, in school.
That leaves 200,000,000
At least a fourth of the rest are retired, legally and vested during their working years.
That leaves 150,000,000
At least a fourth of who is left is either involuntarily unemployed or underemployed and many pay no income tax, or if they file get more back than they paid in because of EIC, but let's disregard EIC for now.
That leaves 112,500,000
Let's arbitrarily take out two million for people who are truly disabled and therefore do not pay taxes.
OK that's 110,500,000
To avoid supposition and err against myself, let's just assume for the moment that 10% of the population is either illeterate or somehow compromised which makes them unemployable in a meaningful way. Therefore if they even do work, they get EIC most likely.
That leaves 99,450,000
And if you then disclude public employees, because what they take from them ultimately comes from us, what does that leave ?
I think it reasonable to assume that in this country with 300,000,000 people, about 50,000,000 are actually productive in any meaningful way.
Now let's take six billion dollars and give it away. That's $240 each.
Now what is the ISREALI population of Israel ? Surely the Palestinians get none of that money. How much is it per person ? Just how important are these people that we are somehow sworn to protect even to any length ?
You want a fair decision, here it is. ThePalestinians leave, they find somewhere or go into diaspora. We consider the Balfour ordeal in perpetuity, like contract law fucks other people every day. In 99 years it is over. That would be about forty years. They could explore the desert. After all they are Semites I think. But comes about 40 years down the line they see the collapse of this entire empire. And then it is again their turn.
Do I think this is right ? NO. But it is the way it is.
So as such, I still respect Carter a bit for some things. And if you want to bitch about an uneventful Presidency, well maybe you should at the eventful Pesidency of the last eight years. But I agree this was simply an exercise in futility.
Carter has gone down a notch in my eyes, because at his age he should know that there is no solution. Like there was no solution to the conquering of the US from the Natives, there will be no solution to this.
And Israel not guarding Carter, it doesn't surprise me a bit. Nothing they do surprises me anymore. They wipe their ass with UN resolutions, and our dollars. They are expansionist meglomaniacs.
Mind you I am not talking about Jews, I am talking about the government of Israel. The US government does and has done petty much doing the same thing, just in a different way. So I no more attack them for their government's behaviour than I would US citizens for the actions of this government.
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