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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 11/27/2005 7:47:28 AM   
LadySonelle


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Status: offline 		For those who object to C/cap S/speak I wonder... if extra leters bothr u prhaps w cd gt rd of mr of thm wch wd mk rdng evn ezr b ur lgc. or prps punct'n s th prblm so lts lmn8 l pnctn s th w cn rd v fstr w w m cmcn v clrr I t t w b a g i..........

LS

No, that didn't work either. Oh well.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 11/27/2005 9:17:49 AM   
Driver1961


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Status: offline 		For candy in answer to your questions.

Yes, I do find lmao and such personally annoying for the reason I explained. It smacks of generic comments that don't explain a person's character.

Yes, I included L/s and (Lifestyle ha!) to explain this and D/s (Dom/sub) for the use in the context of being in the 'clique' of the Lifestyle and utilise this protocol to best explain my involvement in Lifestyle and the W/we to explain the relationship I have with my subs.

My apologies on neglecting a comment on emails- I respond to all (politely)except those that are obviously worthless. I realize (like myself) that a lack of experience often is confused with rudeness and will tactfully refer a 'bad' emailer to other sites for further reading to better acquaint themselves with how their philosophies are best identified.

I really believe that some that are dismissed as 'trolls' are actually only ignorant of Lifestyle dynamics and do learn alot from further directed worthwhile reading.

I recently 'cast' a girl under my guidance after my repeated requests to her to 'read up' on the 'dynamics' required for a Domme (she was sub to me but identified herself as Domme to girls) I had stated to her consistantly that she needed to understand the 'dynamics' to give 'sub prior, during and after care'. I may sound 'bullish' about this but I see this Lifestyle as no different to my 'friendstyle' (is that a description) of how I respect my friends' advice and they respect mine.

I have been described as 'Old Guard?' but only at this stage describe myself as me with my philosophies on life.

Finally, why thankyou ma'm.....(dips his lid) Is the red carpet persian hand crafted like my subby mat? It is!!!!! I am honoured and bow............ I do feel honoured with your welcome!

Warm regards Driver1961

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/5/2005 12:09:15 PM   
LilWhiteWolf


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Status: offline 		i don't know where it started...all i know is that i absolutely detest it !! i think that is why i capitalized my name..grinning
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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/6/2005 6:01:41 PM   
B1gbear


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Status: offline 		It started as an expression of protocol and means to identify Dom from sub as previously mentioned in this thread. It wouldn't seem so hard to tell one from the other until you look at some of the names people use in chat rooms. Then if you think about it, it made sense to come up with a system to help both know who they are talking to at first glance. Now add into the equation things like Gorean protocols for those following that flavor of the lifestyle, use of Third Person speak...and finally those over eager to demonstrate in the online world how well trained and versed they are. Far easier for many to learn the use of caps than all the other subtlties of the BDSM lifestyle. (The whole path of least resistance thing).

Is it right or wrong? No more than any other protocol in this lifestyle. Its all personal preference. Does it piss many of us off? That much has been made clear, but since we all know it came from online BDSM, why not leave it as that and let it go. If someone was persecuting any one of you for a specific protocol you choose to follow you'd be real quick to say its your right to practice this lifestyle how you want. Try simply educating the offenders and giving them a chance to live and learn the things that really matter. If they don't want to adopt your ideas of how it should be, then don't talk to them. I personally look at it the same way as I do when I see someone type LOL or AFK. The Internet has a way of creating a language of its own.

~Just this Dominant's opinion (yep, I capitalized it. Oddly enough I practice this lifestyle in real time and it sounds the same when I say it capped or not, but then again, I say LOL all the time online too and quite often, I'm not really laughing in real time. *grins)

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/6/2005 6:44:05 PM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		I for One always practice the use of the W/w, Y/y , even when I am talking to another Dominant---I was trained that way and prefer it--

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/6/2005 7:05:07 PM   
roughleather


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Status: offline 		I generally assume that anyone who uses IRC-type conventions in a BDSM context probably doesn't do much real-life BDSM. But then I'm near SF, where we have a bondage club scene.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/23/2005 11:55:52 PM   
EarthGoddess52


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Status: offline 		I have a link to an article explaining the Historical Use of Capitalization. I'm not sure it's appropriate to add it here in the Forums, but I'll provide it if anyone would like it.

I think that the use of capitals when referring to Dominants is a sign of respect. Otherwise, the Y/you, A/all, U/us does make a message more difficult to read, but then is it supposed to be easy??

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/23/2005 11:59:07 PM   
EarthGoddess52


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Status: offline 		nicely stated. Thank You. It is a matter of preference (the Dominant's preference perhaps, but preference nonetheless)

I always thought that LOL meant that you were laughing louder than lol......

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 12:55:58 AM   
candystripper


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Status: offline 		Driver1961, if i were to email You for the 1st time, and You wrote me back a pleasant note, saying You found my use of capital letters or slash speak hard to understand -- or just annoying -- i would make an effort to remember that about you next time we exchanged emails. i might forget, but that would be no insult to You. Lately, if i don't write it down it goes to the vapor.

i would change my habitual speech to please You, because You are the Dom; but also to facilitate communication between us. After all, i'm writing to You; i have a message i want You to grasp; i'm not trying to be a puzzle.

i think the bottom line is we could get past this with some reasonable accomodations for everyone's preferences. Myself, i have never received an email that was so loaded down with acronymns that i could not understand; but i remember when i first went to TheLobby for chat and these acronymns made no sense to me; some kind souls explained all of them to me over time.

As for the red carpet treatment; i have been remiss in welcoming others but i'm very glad You're here.

candystripper

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 6:06:16 AM   
Prunesquallor


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Driver1961

I have been described as 'Old Guard?'


I have been described as a dirty old man.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 6:15:27 AM   
xxblushesxx


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Status: offline 		I concur....

We are submissive...

not subpar....

not subhuman...

I believe there is a difference....

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 7:53:25 AM   
sweetwhisper


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Status: offline 		ugh!

i have not read this thread but the title alone makes me gag. It's up there with those threads on "why is it that no one takes the time to reply with a simple no thank you" stop the whinning already. Yes, many use the Y/you Y/yours T/theirs, now get over it already! geeez. What's the big deal? If you don't like it then don't use it.


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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 8:58:21 PM   
Yourkitten


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Status: offline 		i use it if i want and dont use it if i dont. but i guess if i was asked to do it i would. this is just a computer and is only a vessel into real life. now , i wonder how to cap letters when you are talking in real life??????

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 10:22:32 PM   
HouseofBear


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Status: offline 		It is a personal preference thing. Our's is not to use it or to allow our slaves to use it. It drives us nuts, personally, to try and read it. However, the delete button, or the scroll are both wonderful tools.

Bear and Ursa

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/24/2005 11:13:57 PM   
candystripper


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Status: offline 		i say we run our proposed Ops past sweetwhisper, and if she says no, then we don't post. The woman's bulls**t detector is fabuluous.

candystripper

< Message edited by candystripper -- 12/24/2005 11:14:34 PM >

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/28/2005 8:36:15 AM   
doll


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Status: offline 		i am new to this thread thing, was actually introduced to it by a Mistress friend of mine, but i figured my opinion is worth as much as anyone else's. Personally, i don't see any problem with a person capitalizing certain words out of respect (Sir, Ma'am, Master, Mistress), but i only do that out of respect. If others choose to capitalize their words, it is their business. i was told, like many in here, when i first started going into chat that it was "proper respect", however, i only capitalized showing respect to the Dominant friends that i knew were in the lifestyle and not a wannabe. If a person wants to type using Y/you, i don't ridicule them even though it annoys me, i simply go on. It is simple to do really and isn't a big deal... get over it already.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 12/28/2005 9:35:22 AM   
Nendarye


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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I have to ask. Where did this get its start? Why is it prevalent among some members who post? Is this some secret protocol?

Please don't flame me for being stupid, many thanks.



edited for spelling


I have only seen it mainly within the online community. Chat rooms, message boards, etc. From what I was told, and what I understand, many do it only as a way of showing a certain amount of respect to others. Personally, it confuses me lol..I have never used it except in the context of words such as Master/slave, Dominant/submissive.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 2/27/2008 9:16:29 AM   
missfrillypants


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Status: offline 		to be perfectly honest, when i see people typing that way, i always hear it in my head as a stutter. i don't like the sound, so i don't like reading posts like that. and i would never type that way.

the way i see it, if you are addressing a mixed group of doms and subs and every other person who happens to be reading the thing you wrote, and the reader feels OFFENDINATED because you did not address them with the preferred letter, then they are dumb and very thinskinned and do not deserve you to take your time trying not to offend them. if i was addressing someone who wanted to be addressed with a capital letter, the way that my Sir does, then i would address them as such because i am talking to a particular person. but as far as talking to everyone out there in computer land, maybe there are some of them who are deathly offended by the use of a hyphen in any typing.

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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 2/27/2008 9:52:48 AM   
DS4DUMMIES


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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I have to ask. Where did this get its start? Why is it prevalent among some members who post? Is this some secret protocol?

Please don't flame me for being stupid, many thanks.



edited for spelling


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RE: Y/you, A/all, U/us - 2/27/2008 9:55:46 AM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Huh... since we're on the subject of protocol... you just revived a thread that was three years old. It should have been left to rest.

Naughty.

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