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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 4:47:20 AM

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I'lll need to go dig up the specifics.

Where I would find it most alarming is if it was on a laptop and he WAS at home.

Granted it IS misuse of work materials - but how easy is it to plant that stuff?

But if he wasn't viewing AT the court on work time, I'd still be irked and bothered by it.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 4:56:30 AM

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 5:09:54 AM

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They allow us to see endless people chopped up, but SEX has to be monitored?

When I first wrote The Torquemada Killer (a detective novel set in the NYC scene) I intended to release it though a mass market publisher. Not much luck, but one publisher offered to publish it if I took out "all that consensual stuff." In short he was happy with a story about a killer whose work was like this:

"She could see an incredibly bloody bed through an open door and it took a moment for her to realize that what she had thought was a pile of bloody sheets was actually a body. "

but wanted me to remove

"The strap hit again. This time on the bottom of the right breast. She tensed and then relaxed as fur stroked the hurt into something else.
The top of the right breast. The bottom of the right. Left. Left. Right. The fire grew. She could feel her nipples growing, her pelvis churning. Suddenly, he stopped and pulled her head back and kissed her ?? deeply and passionately. She strained to bring her body closer to him. She had never wanted anyone as badly as she wanted this man. His tongue was deep in her throat, and she tried to draw it deeper. Then he was gone, and the fire raged higher. She looked around wildly. Then she felt his hands on the back of her blouse. With a rip, her back was as naked as her breasts."

Needless to say, I declined his offer. It was eventually published by Masquerade Press.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 5:10:09 AM

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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/oct/08/supreme_court_removes_judge_viewing_porn_court_com/

Yeah he DID use it during court hours so yeah was warranted, I'd say.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 5:28:35 AM

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I really don't see how that relates lol.

It doesn't

I just wanted to answer something light (read : shallow) to your nineteen-eighty-four-like post . But now you ask... ah no, this topic is too sad to be serious about it. Vote wisely before your vote is monitored !!! (Void if you already have electronic voting machines in your area).

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 5:33:50 AM

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Ah but there is plenty of lighter toned posts all over the forums, silly, lol!

Neener!

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/13/2005 5:35:08 AM

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Actually I know what ya meant, it was depressing.

But in order to get off ones butt to change things one must force themselves to see icky things.

Plus it makes us appreciate the GOOD stuff all that much more! hehe!

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/21/2005 9:18:01 AM

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Interesting, because in a series of cases referred to as Ashcroft vs. ACLU, a ban on enforcement of the the COPA legislation that established free rein in prosecuting online pornography was upheld by SCOTUS, on the grounds that it was likely to be found unconstitutional. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._American_Civil_Liberties_Union

The more recent legislation that was passed refers exclusively to child pornography, but possibly may be more broadly interpreted by the Bush DOJ in orer to shore up his religious right wing base - still, it's a clear misapplication ind misinterpretationof the actual legislation, and anyone facing these charges will probobly beat them, providing they weren't actually involved in either producing pornographic material using underage models, or soliciting pornographic material to minors - and have neough money to hire the lawyers neccesary to establish same.

This is an old legal trick, basically banrupting the accused with the cost of defending themselves of bogus charges - the champions of tort reform themselves using nuisance suits to try nad ruin legitimate businesses - ironic, but typical.

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I have noticed with increasing vigour, that non - religious people or those who have a different faith to chrisitanity can openly attack christianity and ridicule it continuously as though its the normal thing to do - but the reality is, is that it makes You(generic) no different to the 'christians' you are ridiculing or pointing fingers at. And it is no different to racism, or being anti-feminist or any other anti anything.

I, on the other hand, have noticed that people claiming to be Christians feel to verbally abuse and slander anyone they don't approve of, which includes not only people who engage in sexual practices they disaprove of, but scientists (godless athiests, by extension, immoral), etc. etc. - while somehow feeling that they should be immune from criticism themselves.

Soon as you get into politics, it isn't religion anymore baby, it's politics, and nobody is immune to criticism, can't have it both ways. Verbal abuse and slander is considered a political act, and if associated with a specific religion, one cannot expect public criticism of said religion to be withheld out of respect for religion. Even the Bible had something to say about that, something about "doing unto others...".

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/tongue in cheek activated

At least if Christ appeared now they wouldn't crucify him.
Of course there is Gitmo

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RE: On the subject of Red Rose - 10/21/2005 8:21:14 PM

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In the case of Red Rose the following is alleged:

"Publishing pedo fantasy stories about 6 month old babies getting finger fucked is OBSCENE, is over the line, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” posted one user on GFY.com, although YNOT has not yet been able to verify the exact nature of the targeted stories. “I have no sympathy for this site. It should not be protected as free spreech [sic]. The entire premise is to cater to the fantasies of pedos at the most debased and perverted levels imaginable. When you are writing sexually perverse stories describing pornographic acts on infants, toddlers, and children you are generating the same effect [sic] as if you were publishing pictures of such.. "

Source:
http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=news_article&sid=9839

IF the above is true, then no wonder. This shouldn't come as a surprise people, Republican administrations have been consistent on their war on sex going all the way back to the Reagan Adminstration and Attorney general Edwin Meese.

I'm not condoning I'm merely stating, this is nothing new and very predictable.
If you're going to serve this stuff up on the web, get a server in Denmark. Is it right ?
Doesn't matter, this is the way it is until we change it via either the political process or
revolution.

Just cos the Gov says thats whats on it, doesnt mean its what was really going on. i dunno if its true or not. But gee, wouldnt that be really smart of the government to say something like that? Its not like the government hasnt lied about something they've done in the past.

Bdsm site - Close it down!! - really its terrible, its got pedo stuff on it

Edited to add - i'm christian, and i stand for open minded christians. Yet there are many christians out there that are nuts and i dont stand for them. They can sit down.

Just like there are nutty ppl in every religion. Though i hate religion. Just another way to control the ppl. Like the gov which is just a legalised form of the mafia, but worse. i personally can line my beliefs up more with christians and instead of telling ppl i am ANTI religion, i can just simply say christian. Makes a long story short

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RE: On the subject of Red Rose - 10/21/2005 8:26:08 PM

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oh hey and whats this "war on porn" and not a "war on drugs" say for b.com and collarme, and other places like this?

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RE: On the subject of Red Rose - 10/21/2005 8:28:13 PM

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oooooooooo and i told MasterBetta about this thread and he said

"bush confuse lybians with lesbians?"

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/21/2005 9:08:43 PM

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A Christian only has to be born again and turn his/her back on sin to be a true Christian. That is it.

Actually, a "Christian" is any whose faith is based on the Bible and the belief that Jesus Christ was the son of God. Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, and all the rest are considered to be "Christian". The is broken down into two separate "sects" of Christians, Catholics and Protestants. Evangelical Christians, i.e. Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker are "born again".

Main Entry: 1Chris·tian
Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & n., from Greek christianos, from Christos
1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/22/2005 1:39:08 PM

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One thing I find disturbing in all this, is that in both the US and UK similar things are happening. At one time it was always said that we must defend our freedom. But now Bush and Blair are always harping on about defending Democracy even if it means giving up our freedoms. If people can't see what is wrong with that then I feel there is no hope for any of us.

They want freedom. The problem is it's THEIR freedom, not ours. Not an uncommon point of view. After all, if you give people real freedom they might do things you don't want 'em to do.

Yep..like be nice to one another,stopping wars,feeding the hungry...doing all the things that have kept us from truelly being free and equal.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/22/2005 3:50:04 PM

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I think I'm inclined to believe what L&M said about outrage over gasoline prices. It seems like the American public is unwilling to stand up for what they believe in, except when it effects their pocket books. Why do people go along with the electorate and are satisfied with the decisions that are made in their behalf? It is certainly about time that those who complain the most and do the least to influence their elected officials just take responsibility for their own lives and the lives of their families, rather than allow the Government do their thinking and makes decisions for them!

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 2:15:54 AM

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I'm not so sure that this right-wing stuff will pass away, at least not easily. There won't be significant political change in this country without some degree of popular outrage, and we are nowhere near that stage yet. Yes, 67% (or whatever it is) of the respondents in this poll and that poll say they don't approve of the job the President is doing, but in 2008 you can be damned sure they're going to vote against their interests yet again--that is, unless the economy is so bad by then that people really start to suffer (as in 1992). It just shows that even the people who are upset are upset for the wrong reasons. I mean, really, with all the unspeakable things that have been done since the election heist in 2000, people are up in arms over GASOLINE PRICES??? I don't know whom I'm more pissed off at: the President or the American electorate.

it's pretty kinda scary to see the majority not getting the really important issues; makes one really wonder.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 7:12:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut

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A Christian only has to be born again and turn his/her back on sin to be a true Christian. That is it.

Actually, a "Christian" is any whose faith is based on the Bible and the belief that Jesus Christ was the son of God.

True, and the Bible says that you must be born again (John 3:1-7) and repent (ie turn your back on your sins) (Mark 6:12).

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 9:18:20 AM

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A Christian only has to be born again and turn his/her back on sin to be a true Christian. That is it.

Actually, a "Christian" is any whose faith is based on the Bible and the belief that Jesus Christ was the son of God.

True, and the Bible says that you must be born again (John 3:1-7) and repent (ie turn your back on your sins) (Mark 6:12).

SirKenin said nothing would happen because of 2257 and the new witchhunt by the government and called us all 'chicken littles' who were overreacting. Meanwhile, sites are shutting down and people are being investigated. Who whould've thought. He won't admit he was wrong, however.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 11:19:49 AM

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SirKenin said nothing would happen because of 2257 and the new witchhunt by the government and called us all 'chicken littles' who were overreacting. Meanwhile, sites are shutting down and people are being investigated. Who whould've thought. He won't admit he was wrong, however.

Akasha

Do you know what it means to get over it? You are a classic case in point.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 6:05:46 PM

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and have neough money to hire the lawyers neccesary to establish same.
This is an old legal trick, basically banrupting the accused with the cost of defending themselves of bogus charges -

yes, that is the rub....it did get an president elected, after all...

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the champions of tort reform themselves using nuisance suits to try nad ruin legitimate businesses - ironic, but typical.

not so very typical but maintstream thought, without knowlege of the facts.

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RE: BDSM art and stories now illegal - 10/27/2005 6:52:51 PM

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