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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/21/2008 6:54:37 AM

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Evolution is not a system, it is a process, it is not seeking anything as there appears to be no intelligence behind it.

I agree that their appears to be no intelligence behind evolution. I see two points of contention here. First, people frequently anthropomorphize things. It is a natural human inclination often used as a means of generalizing things. Evolution is no different. I once read a passage that went something like – the land dwelling ancestors of the whales decided to return to the sea. Now, of course, the land dwelling ancestors of the whales didn’t decide anything but I understood what was meant. Likewise, when I say that systems "seek" equilibrium I do not mean that there is an intelligence behind it "seeking" a desired goal. I merely mean that the natural tendency of systems is toward equilibrium.

Secondly, you seem to take the word system as meaning a process designed by an intelligence. I mean no such thing. Systems can form and operate naturally. The weather system, for example. I include evolution in this. Evolution may be a naturally occurring process but it is a system. What occurs in one place (e.g. too many predators) effects what happens elsewhere (e.g. not enough prey to eat).

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/21/2008 7:07:14 AM

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Some whales originally had their blow hole on their under bellies but that was poor design and lead to them all drowning

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/21/2008 7:32:17 AM

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Dude, your palate is skewed. Olives are wonderful. And olive oil? Omfg.

Perhaps you should be reborn on the Mediterranean.

Actually, I love olive oil, especially the dipping the bread in the spices thing! Don’t ask me to explain why I loath the one and love the other because I’m not really sure myself. It may have something to do with when I was a little kid and my older sisters told me they were monkey eyeballs.

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/21/2008 7:36:51 AM

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Take that, Chuck Darwin

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/22/2008 7:52:35 AM

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I just came across a fairly interesting news article, regarding alien life and interstellar travel. Since the world's preeminent expert has spoken, no one else's opinion can have any weight.

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Hawking: Unintelligent life is likely on other planets

"Primitive life is very common and intelligent life is fairly rare," he then quickly added: "Some would say it has yet to occur on earth."

So should you worry about aliens? Alien abduction claims come from "weirdos" and are unlikely. However, because alien life might not have DNA like us, Hawking warned: "Watch out if you would meet an alien. You could be infected with a disease with which you have no resistance."

The 66-year-old British cosmologist, who suffers from ALS and must speak through a mechanical device, believes "if the human race is to continue for another million years, we will have to boldly go where no one has gone before."

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 4/22/2008 8:15:20 AM

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I have some lovely pitted Kalamata olives in my fridge. I use 'em with tomatos, parmigiano, balcamico, and basil nearly every night.

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 5/11/2008 3:35:06 PM

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A question for those who believe in Intelligent Design:
Why do men have nipples? A plumber wouldn’t be very intelligent if he put a faucet where there was no pipe.

So women can play with them.....

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RE: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" - 5/11/2008 3:41:55 PM

Rule