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seeksfemslave -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:13:33 PM)
quote: While I am not a Christian there is no doubt whatsoever that Christians, especially in Europe, have to endure abuse that is just is not applied to others. quote: slaveboyforyou (...) Are only blacks, Muslims, Jews, Gypsies, Gays, etc protected under hate crime laws? Thats exactly how it works at the moment slaveboy. Not right is it? If I can help somebody as I pass along ,then my living has not been in vain. lol

Padriag -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:28:19 PM)
Having read all this I still can't help but think of that old saying... how is it it goes... something about sticks and stones...

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:35:30 PM)
quote: The minority must be protected for the simple fact they are the more vulnerable members of society. Why is this so confusing? Ignorant people walk around attacking minorities all the time just because they are different, based on the fact some high profile figure stoked up the fires of hatred. Besides calling someone a moron isn't quite the same as saying 'People that don't believe in evolution are dangerous and will be the end of all we hold dear.' Well I would argue that no one needs protection from speech. When you promote that idea, you create a permanent victim class in society. You instill a mindset in minorities that all problems they have are the fault of others, and they give up hope of being able to solve these problems. So their neighborhoods become war zones filled with addiction, poverty, unemployment, and disease. But not to worry, the well meaning, upper middle class white folks won't let any movie stars or crackpot political philosphers say anything to hurt their feelings. After all, we know those poor minorities are just babies that can't protect themselves. So we will create some condescending, worthless laws that will never address the real social problems that affect them. We do all of this so that we can take the attention away from the real people that are fucking these groups of people in the ass. It's the same group of people that are fucking white working and middle class people in the ass.

MzMia -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:39:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou quote: The minority must be protected for the simple fact they are the more vulnerable members of society. Why is this so confusing? Ignorant people walk around attacking minorities all the time just because they are different, based on the fact some high profile figure stoked up the fires of hatred. Besides calling someone a moron isn't quite the same as saying 'People that don't believe in evolution are dangerous and will be the end of all we hold dear.' Well I would argue that no one needs protection from speech. When you promote that idea, you create a permanent victim class in society. You instill a mindset in minorities that all problems they have are the fault of others and they give up hope and effort to solve these problems. So their neighborhoods become war zones filled with addiction, poverty, unemployment, and disease. But not to worry, us well meaning, upper middle class white folks won't let any movie stars or crackpot political philosphers say say anything to hurt their feelings. After all we know those poor minorities are just babies that can't protect yourself. So we will create some condescending, worthless laws that will never address the real social problems that affect you. We do all of this so that we can take the attention away from the real people that are fucking these groups of people in the ass. It's the same group of people that are fucking white working and middle class people in the ass. babyboy? is someone fucking you in the arse? I am sorry! Tell those damn people to stop fucking you in the arse! Damn, that means they are fucking me in the arse also. [:D] As much as many piss and moan, we would indeed miss free speech. Cause that would also mean, no places like Collar Me!

domiguy -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:39:32 PM)
As you get old your brain starts to "Funkify"...You remember incorrectly how good the old days were....You blame everyone and everything but yourself for the reasons that your life is imperfect. You get grouchy...Thank God it is only momentary...For God planned it out that when you really hit your stride as a conservative you usually don't have that much longer to live.

domiguy -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:41:53 PM)
The only people that are fucking the white middle class people in the ass are other "upper class" whites and themselves.....Oh yeah and the niggers. They have all of the power with those fucking sneaker contracts.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:51:24 PM)
Well, the law that Kittin quoted doesn't quite distinguish between those two statements. quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle Besides calling someone a moron isn't quite the same as saying 'People that don't believe in evolution are dangerous and will be the end of all we hold dear.'

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:52:52 PM)
So, Bardot gets a couple of months probation and a few thousand dollars fine for doing something illegal, and the good righteous collarchat crowd gets all pantied up because of it. I think it's funny. It's interesting to hear all these different reactions, but guess what? America has its freedom of speech; Europe is certainly no threat to it, and it has its freedom of speech too. If you don't like it, well, they don't like yours. Big fucking deal: get over it.

Level -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 7:55:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle I think there is a difference between mocking someone and spreading manipulative fear. Besides Jesus don't care because he don't exist whereas Muslim immigrants do. I'm not a strong supporter of these laws as I've already said but to compare attacking Muslim immigrants, which could then lead to persecution of those immigrants, with mocking a fictitious deity, which leads to the persecution of no one, is a bit disingenuous. Bardot defending sheep will lead to violence against Muslims? "Could"..... Hell, anything "could"........so we sanitize everything. And it isn't only God being "mocked" but Christians. That mocking can easily be seen as "attacking".... which "could" lead to violence against them.

MzMia -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:00:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle I think there is a difference between mocking someone and spreading manipulative fear. Besides Jesus don't care because he don't exist whereas Muslim immigrants do. I'm not a strong supporter of these laws as I've already said but to compare attacking Muslim immigrants, which could then lead to persecution of those immigrants, with mocking a fictitious deity, which leads to the persecution of no one, is a bit disingenuous. Bardot defending sheep will lead to violence against Muslims? "Could"..... Hell, anything "could"........so we sanitize everything. And it isn't only God being "mocked" but Christians. That mocking can easily be seen as "attacking".... which "could" lead to violence against them. [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif] Oh but you forget!!! I sat here and read the nastiest, most vile and evil comments made about my religion, right here on CollarMe. It almost never fails online {especially around Christmas and Easter} Guess what? I did not start crying like a little bitch over it, because we have freedom of speech. I just stopped reading the crap. We can ONLY attack certain religions around here. Gosh forbid we attack certain other beliefs!!! Let's make a list of the religions and the groups of people we can talk trash about, mock, ridicule, and slander.

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:01:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Well, the law that Kittin quoted doesn't quite distinguish between those two statements. quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle Besides calling someone a moron isn't quite the same as saying 'People that don't believe in evolution are dangerous and will be the end of all we hold dear.' The universal declaration of human rights is applicable in France too, you know. quote: art 19 « Tout individu a droit à la liberté d'opinion et d'expression, ce qui implique le droit de ne pas être inquiété pour ses opinions et celui de chercher, de recevoir et de répandre, sans considérations de frontières, les informations et les idées par quelque moyen d'expression que ce soit. » Declaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen: quote: art 11 « La libre communication des pensées et des opinions est un des droits les plus précieux de l'homme ; tout citoyen peut donc parler, écrire, imprimer librement, sauf à répondre de l'abus de cette liberté dans les cas déterminés par la loi. » quote: European court of human rights (is there one of those on every continent?) 21 janvier 1999, n°29183/95 « La liberté d'expression vaut non seulement pour les « informations » ou « idées » accueillies avec faveur ou considérées comme inoffensives ou indifférentes, mais aussi pour celles qui heurtent, choquent ou inquiètent : ainsi le veulent le pluralisme, la tolérance et l'esprit d'ouverture sans lesquels, il n'est pas de « société démocratique » The provision for the protection of freedom of speech is amble in Europe, in case you didn't understand any of this. What was this about the Patriot's Act, anyway?

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:03:10 PM)
God is dead.

Level -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:04:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol God is dead. See? Free speech. We won't stone you to death, or behead you.......

Lordandmaster -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:04:19 PM)
Isn't it illegal to say that in France because it might insult Christians?

MzMia -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:06:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol God is dead. lol You have the right to say it! We live in America. [:D] Brigitte Bardot was hot when she was young, THE French kitten for all time. Gallery 2

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:06:14 PM)
Nope. It's not illegal: I just quoted a plethora of legal provisions up there which protect freedom of expression.

Level -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:07:57 PM)
Then why was Bardot brought to court?

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:11:26 PM)
Level, the information you need is in this thread. See if you can find it [8\|] .

Level -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:13:18 PM)
Oh, I think I've seen plenty.

kittinSol -> RE: Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slurs (4/19/2008 8:16:52 PM)
I'll say it again: Patriot's Act.

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