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Those words have meanings and often they apply. Again, it's not an insult if the word can be shown to be demonstrably true based on things a certain speaker has posted. In such a case the word is merely descriptive.
I could call a person a fascist and it's demonstrably true if that person holds political views that joins the power of the state with that of corporate entities. That's basically the definition of fascism.
So yeah, I guess some of us are smarter after all...
Maybe.
Fascism - as most famously expressed in the National Socialist Party of German - was primarily a Socialist movement that was focused on building Socialism with a national face (hence National Socialist Party), as opposed to International Socialism of the USSR's Communist party.
It's why the Nazis and the Communist hated each other. The International considered Fascist as heretics of the Church of Socialism.
As such, Fascist wasn't necessarily about corporatism. It was about the power of the national state, and subordinating all businesses, and all social and economic parts of society to the state.
Here is the Merriam Webster 11th Collegiate editions definition:
Main Entry:fas£cism
Pronunciation:*fa-*shi-z*m also *fa-*si-
Function:noun
Etymology:Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control *early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge*
–fas£cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£tic \fa-*shis-tik also -*sis-\ adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£ti£cal£ly \-ti-k(*-)l*\ adverb , often capitalized
Here are many definitions of fascism from Google:
Fascism:
Look it over, and you might notice that "business" or "corporations" as an defined part of Fascism is pretty rare. You even have to hunt for it. In fact, the elimination of capitalism was seen by many as a major goal of Fascism.
In truth, following the social darwinist movement, many successful business were encouraged, but were still very much subordinate to the state.
Dunno. Seems like your definition of "Fascism" is a little self-serving, and not that accurate.
Just like your definition of "warmonger".
Just like your definition of "dittohead"
You are very well aware that all of these words are "fighting words" in the world of politics. The are used primarily as insults from the left to anyone who disagrees with them, in an attempt to avoid having a discussion on the issues.
In cold reality, what you are trying to avoid admitting is that you are using them as insults, but you and I know that is exactly your intent.
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