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RE: the biker - 4/30/2008 5:12:03 PM

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If I can't afford the bike I'm looking at, I would want one that I could "convert" (more specifically pay to have converted) to look kinda like the one from the show I remember growing up.

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RE: the biker - 4/30/2008 7:41:03 PM

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I probably won't get to any events for a couple years. I have a 12 hr/day 6 days/wk work schedule (I own/operate a retail store). And I'm such a newbie (riding about 1 1/2 yrs) that I haven't even gone on the highway yet. There's too many idiots driving in Upstate NY. They routinely try to kill me when driving the Jeep Cherokee, can't imagine what they'd do to me on the bike. The back roads are prettier, anyway.

Having gone to college in upstate NY, i figured you hadn't taken the bike out on the highway yet because they're all under construction! Nothing like hitting uneven pavement in an unfamiliar area in the dark, in the rain...

i ride solo probably 95% of the time, and with my wife the rest of the time, so i don't see the need to "fit in" with my assortment of occasionally-functional Japanese bikes (including my wife's Shadow VLX), but you gotta do what you gotta do to have fun...

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 5:00:09 AM

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Generalizations are very......ummmm general, as was the original post here. When generalizations are made by one, you have to understand people make generalizations the other way. It's just the way it goes.

Smith, believe it or not, i do get what you are saying.

But as long as there are folks who will denigrate bikers as group, calling them all ignorant, all crack dealers or users or other such stupid crap, as long as this happens; well ...i'll be the loud mouth in Harley tee shirt preaching otherwise.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 5:08:17 AM

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Just to add a grain of salt in an already gritty debate, bikes are a lot less obnoxious than SUVs. SUVs SUCK!

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 5:09:20 AM

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Just to add a grain of salt in an already gritty debate, bikes are a lot less obnoxious than SUVs. SUVs SUCK!

Not as bad as minivans do!!!!!!!!

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 5:12:40 AM

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Nah, SUVs are worse. They're ostentatious. Minivans are ugly, but they serve a purpose. SUVs are just for showing off. They seem to take up more volume. They shine more. They guzzle more. And SUV drivers tend to be the most selfish arrogant twats on the road.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:14:30 AM

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Nah, SUVs are worse. They're ostentatious. Minivans are ugly, but they serve a purpose. SUVs are just for showing off. They seem to take up more volume. They shine more. They guzzle more. And SUV drivers tend to be the most selfish arrogant twats on the road.

Aaaahhhh... that felt good .

I'm with you on this one. I think it's bad enough when some self-important, cell-phone talking () is carting around all of her UMs in a minivan.....when you take roughly half of her already-impaired visibility, it's a recipe for disaster.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:25:03 AM

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Ah, Smith, Smith, Smith... SUV drivers are selfish cunts whatever their gender. Where are the fucking dads, hmmm? That's right: they hardly ever cart their sprogs around, because they're too busy playing golf or something equally self-agrandising

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Generalisation: OVER.

SUVs are the turdiest vehicles on America's roads :-) . A dying breed anyway, in these days of inflated petrol prices. There's a silver lining to this cloud, at least.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:42:28 AM

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Ah, Smith, Smith, Smith... SUV drivers are selfish cunts

You said it, not me. ;-)

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:47:20 AM

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Ah, Smith, Smith, Smith... SUV drivers are selfish cunts . . .

You said it I didn't. ;-)

Here's the difference. Men can be wreckless, but women are more careless. The difference being that wreckless people are aware of the others, they just drive like a-holes. Careless drivers are simply not aware of anything but their own little world and that causes more wrecks.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:52:52 AM

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Haven't you heard of Hybrid SUV's and golfing is a great way to get out and spend an afternoon with you wife or significant other.

People do get a "superiority complex" when driving SUV's. In my Saturn SC, my head is about even with their front bumper, so I keep my distance. My motto while driving around these people is: If you are not afraid to die, I am not afraid to kill you, so when you are weaving in and out of traffic, I am closing the door. Hopefully the other driver doesn't have the same motto!!

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:54:10 AM

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I like SUV's, definitely more than motorcycles. Especially on wintery days when I borrow my parents' SUV to drive to work.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 6:54:48 AM

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Perhaps, but carelessness causes fewer deaths on the roads that wrecklessness.

Don't women drivers have lower car insurance premiums

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There have been many surveys and counter surveys attempting to prove one sex to be superior to the other behind the wheel. For example, in January 2007, research by Carnegie Mellon University in the USA found that male drivers have a 77 per cent higher risk of dying in a car accident than women. These statistics were re-affirmed by John Hopkins School of Medicine and Public Health, which found that men are three times more likely to be killed when they crash. However, the same study also reported that women are more likely to be involved in crashes than men. American women were involved in 5.7crashes per million miles driven, whereas male drivers clocked up just 5.1crashes over the same distance. What appears to be a common trend throughout the numerous studies conducted into the driving records of men and women is that when men crash the results tend to be far worse and often lead to fatalities. It is believed that men take more risks than women in most areas of life and as a result they suffer disproportionately when it comes to car insurance. Even though women are involved in a similar number of accidents, they generally tend to be less serious. This means that they are less expensive from an insurance point of view. The consensus is that women tend to drive more slowly and with more caution than men on the road.

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I didn't say it :-) .

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 7:12:19 AM

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I probably won't get to any events for a couple years. I have a 12 hr/day 6 days/wk work schedule (I own/operate a retail store). And I'm such a newbie (riding about 1 1/2 yrs) that I haven't even gone on the highway yet. There's too many idiots driving in Upstate NY. They routinely try to kill me when driving the Jeep Cherokee, can't imagine what they'd do to me on the bike. The back roads are prettier, anyway.

Having gone to college in upstate NY, i figured you hadn't taken the bike out on the highway yet because they're all under construction! Nothing like hitting uneven pavement in an unfamiliar area in the dark, in the rain... i ride solo probably 95% of the time, and with my wife the rest of the time, so i don't see the need to "fit in" with my assortment of occasionally-functional Japanese bikes (including my wife's Shadow VLX), but you gotta do what you gotta do to have fun...

You know it!I just read in the paper where they're redesigning one of the expressways again, I think it was 590. Personally, I don't feel the roads are half as bad as the drivers on them. I know I've made my share of stupid moves, but some days it's ridiculous! It's kinda funny, I find myself driving the Jeep differently (more carefully) since I've been riding the motorcycle. I guess I'm more aware of the road and other drivers.

My husband just bought a Vulcan 900 a couple weeks ago, so we hope to do some riding together this summer.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 7:28:56 AM

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Perhaps, but carelessness causes fewer deaths on the roads that wrecklessness.

Actually, I think it's the opposite. I mean sure wrecklessness causes more wrecks if you go by the insurance/accident reports. However, I have a theory:

If wreckless = aggressive driver and;
Careless = inattentive driver,

Then it's possible that the wreckless driver gets annoyed at the careless drivers and then speeds past them, around them, etc. driving more aggressively which, according to insurance stats, causes the accidents.

Some would say then, that eliminating wreckless drivers could, in theory, eliminate the accidents. But the same could be said for careless drivers. If you remove the source of the wreckless drivers' frustrations, you remove a large part of their reason for being wreckless. I think either way, accidents would decline over all.

As for the SUV argument though......I will say that being a careless driver who doesn't look out for people is bad (ie. in a regular-sized car). However, I will say that being a careless driver who doesn't look AND who couldn't see even if they did look is FAR worse (in an SUV).

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 4:22:27 PM

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Knowing twicehappy2x very well personally, I just have to say that she is definitely not one of those people who gets "caught up" in Easyriders hype....she is the very reason that magazines like Easyriders and other magazines geared to motorcyclists have a topic to write about in the first place. Her late Master was one of the founding members of the Hell's Angels, she is an accomplished champion hare scramble rider and she lives in a home where all who live there ride their own. She has worked all of her life to organize and run motorcycling events. There is not a day of her life that motorcycles are not a part of.

A founding member of the Hell's Angel's? I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. Is that supposed to be a good thing? Something to be admired? Something I should aspire to?

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 4:37:39 PM

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A founding member of the Hell's Angel's? I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. Is that supposed to be a good thing? Something to be admired? Something I should aspire to?

Only you can answer that.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 4:40:18 PM

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Is there nothing you hold sacrosanct , nothing you deem so inviolable, so hallowed in the pith of your marrow that you would ward it against the intransigent vilifications of those whose mealy mouthed mumblings resemble the pathetic whimpers of a mange ridden cur snapping and snarling at his betters ?

Wow!!!!!!!!!!

Relax Sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been riding Harleys all my life and am part of what gets termed the "biker lifestyle". Unfortunately there are people like you who get caught up in the hype of a lot of the bullshit magazines like "Easyriders" that try to portray riding a fucking motorcycle as some kind of glorious, patriotic, awe-inspiring event.

Just ride and party and ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knowing twicehappy2x very well personally, I just have to say that she is definitely not one of those people who gets "caught up" in Easyriders hype....she is the very reason that magazines like Easyriders and other magazines geared to motorcyclists have a topic to write about in the first place. Her late Master was one of the founding members of the Hell's Angels, she is an accomplished champion hare scramble rider and she lives in a home where all who live there ride their own. She has worked all of her life to organize and run motorcycling events. There is not a day of her life that motorcycles are not a part of.

(Sorry twice, hope I didn't overstep...)

Just figured out how to do this. Sorry for the repetition.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 4:47:45 PM

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A founding member of the Hell's Angel's? I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. Is that supposed to be a good thing? Something to be admired? Something I should aspire to?

Only you can answer that.

Yes, I know. The jury is still out on Adolph Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer too! I'm trying to decide that too! So many decisions, so little time.

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RE: the biker - 5/1/2008 5:06:22 PM

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Knowing twicehappy2x very well personally,

Actually folks, this is a statement from another poster. One who does know me, who has been to my house.

Rulemylife does not know me.

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