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Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 8:39:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Zensee

I heard you, roaring past my home at three AM, sitting at the intersection, gunning your deliberately un-muffled motor.

You didn't see me sleeping peacefully or awake with a start or lay there for the rest of the night, trying to get back to sleep.

You didn't see me wondering what sort of thoughtless person would consider their desire to make as much as a small plane, right outside my house, more important than someone else's need for a good night of rest.

You didn't see me finally drag my ass out of bed, all bleary eyed and hoping I could make it through the day.

You didn't care that I was a school bus driver and that many young lives, possibly your own children's, depend on me being alert at all times.

You did see my big yellow bus and you knew that I'd be obliged to give way if you squeezed me out with your bike, so when you decided to use me as a way of gaining some small advantage on the road you didn't hesitate using your faster, more agile machine to take it.

You didn't see the street racer entering the freeway on the ramp to my right or realise he was thinking the same thing that you were, and gunning his engine to accomplish it.

You did hear me honk and wave a warning and you did take the time to salute me with your middle finger.

You didn't see me trying to calm a bus full of horrified children while calling for an ambulance and dealing with my own shock.

I wonder if you recognised me as I watched your life bleed out on the road, helpless to save you?

I wonder if a good night's sleep would have allowed me the extra margin of attention I needed to avert this disaster?

I live with that. You don't.

Rest In Peace.


Oh very nice. [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif]

A shame that it's true, but very well done.

I can add a few as well, though mine pertain to the "sport bikes" more popular today.

I saw you and your friends as they screamed down the freeway, dodging in and out of heavy traffic "just because you could."

I heard about you driving alongside a family's car, kicking it and throwing things at it, terrorizing them beyond belief.....all while screaming down the freeway.

I heard about you running from the cops for nothing more than you thought you could get away. (You didn't, and your passenger spent months in the hospital for your stupidity while you blamed the cops for chasing you)

And I heard about you, so excited to get your new way-too-powerful sportbike as you gunned the engine down a stretch of freeway less than an 8th of a mile long. But you didn't see the sharp, 45 mph turn, before you hit it going way too fast, flipping yourself and your brand new bike over a 3-foot concrete barrier and killing yourself instantly, destroying your precious new toy in the process.

You see folks, motorcycles are MOTOR vehicles as well. And while car drivers should keep a better eye out for them (as well as everything else on the road), the bike riders really need to learn they are MOTOR vehicles. They are not a bicycle one minute and a car the next. They can't just expect to dodge in and out of heavy traffic with no consequence. They can't demand we watch for them, and then suddenly change which way we need to watch 3 times a second.

If you expect car drivers to keep an eye out for you, you can't dodge around them. You can't weave in and out of them in heavy traffic or ride on the lane-divider lines. No matter how good a person watches for bikes and everything else, there's only so much area behind us that we can see at once. And I don't mind telling your....in a tense heavy traffic situation....my eyes ALWAYS go to the semi next to me that can crush me in a moment before trying to look for the tiny bike that might be screaming around me, impatient that I am being so cautious around the semi.






Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 8:44:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moloch
Uhh  dont lump us all into one category.  I get woken up 3AM by morons with straight pipes too, it may make them feel better about their penis it wont help me sleep.


We can't lump all bikers into one category. They come in all kinds. Like the sport bikers who do wheelies down the freeway just to see how long they can hold it.

I lost count of the number of sport bike wreck videos I saw on break.com because they were trying to film themselves doing "something cool" on the freeway. I also lost count of the number of times I cracked up when they blew it and trashed their pretty new bike....not to mention themselves. It's like a never-ending episode of Jackass.




Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 8:47:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzPatti4femslave
Worse than truckers? I beg to differ with you, on your opinion of truckers. My husband, and I, are owner operators. We are on the road with our truck, coast to coast.
It's a great way to see the country, but also a great way to get killed...or kill. This can happen when someone in a car...yes, car, not motorcycle...decides that they can just cut right in front of me, and I can stop on a dime...with 40,000 lbs. of cargo in the trail, never mind the weight of my truck.
As for the noise, what of the cars that need to BUMP BUMP BUMP passed my window at 3 in the morning? They wake me after I have been on the road for 2 weeks, and am trying to get some peaceful sleep.


What you say cars are to truckers, we say motorbikes are to cars. The difference being that if a motorbike pulled that kinda crap on a truck, the truck driver would simply say "damn....what idiot put a speed bump in the middle of a freeway?" Where as a car driver could have his car totalled by a biker's stupidity.




Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 8:48:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pagansub77

Amen sistah!! I love the ones that whine about trucks. Let all the trucks stop rolling for a week and see the shelves empty in the stores. They never seem to understand that every thing they eat, wear or wipe their butts with was delivered by a truck.
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That's been done already, largely due to gas prices. They stopped rolling for 3 days. I don't recall noticing any difference. I still got gas, groceries and everything I needed.




tigerstyle -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:05:40 PM)

Nothing wrong with bikers per se, but the clowns in my neighb with the loud pipes who think there's nothing wrong with coming home after lights out, making more noise than a jet landing on an aircraft carrier.....may they t-bone a tanker full of acid at a railway crossing and be dissolved. I give them the malocchio.




Leatherist -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:08:05 PM)

I feel the same way about idiots who get drunk and gun thier cars in the driveway at 3am. To show off how great the lack of a muffler on thier truck is.




DomKen -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:24:28 PM)

My father was a trucker, I've got his 1 million mile no accident patch to prove it. I rode with him some summers and the things I saw truck drivers, car drivers and motorcyclist do was mind boggling. Really it taught me that most of the people on the road have zero business being on the road.

In my younger days I rode a Harley and saw yet more idiocy from all directions. After a set of riding leathers saved my life, idiot car tried to come into my lane without giving me enough clearance and clipped my rear wheel, I decided people are just too damn stupid for me to be out on the road on a bike.

Now I drive my little hybrid and I find myself avoiding the interstates as much as possible simply to avoid being around idiots driving 85 while talking on their cell and changing the radio station.

I guess what I'm saying is keep in mind your driving a heavy vehicle at high speeds. The physics of that aren't particularly good for the human body if you make a mistake or get inattentive at the wrong time.




ElectraGlide -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:32:58 PM)

Hey my Harley gets 50 miles to the gallon, whats wrong with that. Lots of people wanting bikes lately, because of the good gas mileage. I hope they discover the enjoyment of riding.




Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:39:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ElectraGlide

Hey my Harley gets 50 miles to the gallon, whats wrong with that. Lots of people wanting bikes lately, because of the good gas mileage. I hope they discover the enjoyment of riding.


I hope they discover the enjoyment of a good muffler and adherance to roadway etiquette.

Truthfully, I am considering getting a little cruiser bike, assuming the Honda DN-01 comes to our shores. I am purposefully getting a low-powered bike (by comparisson) and plan to do NO stunts on the roadways at anytime. I'd be getting mine strictly for convenience and gas-saving, not death defying stunts or neighbor-waking.

And if I see red and blues flashing behind me, guess what. I'm going to pull over. Because a simple traffic ticket isn't worth me flying down the freeway at 180, possibly killing myself, the cop, or innocent people in our way. (Not to mention the DN-01 isn't even rated to do better than 120 maxed out, which is why I want it...other than the damned cool look of it)




ElectraGlide -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:47:09 PM)

I understand what you are saying Smith. Most people like loud pipes so cars can hear them. Loud Pipes Save Lives, is a popular saying.




Lynnxz -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:51:59 PM)

My friend and I have a habit of killing the motor on his bike, and just coasting through the neighborhood to his house... thankfully it's all downhill... haha.

There's retards that drive bikes... there's also idiots that drive minivans...and jackasses driving semis.  >.> Be careful






Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 9:59:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ElectraGlide

I understand what you are saying Smith. Most people like loud pipes so cars can hear them. Loud Pipes Save Lives, is a popular saying.


Cute saying, but vastly inaccurate these days.

Most newer cars are designed with comfortable, quiet commutes in mind and, as such, are far more sound-resistant than the average home. This is evidenced by the growing number of people who don't even hear emergency vehicles coming up behind them (which are significantly louder than a motor).

I listen to talk radio on both of my commutes and the only time I can recall hearing a loud bike engine was when he was accelerating from a dead stop at an intersection literally right next to my car.

Also, if that loud pipes line were true, that wouldn't explain the plethora of sport bikes on the scene today. They appear to be far more popular with the younger crowd yet you don't hear them revving up each day NEARLY as loudly as you do the harley-esque bikes.




MMistress -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 10:03:22 PM)

I am amazed at the closed minded opinions presented in this thread. As a new rider of a motorcycle, I hope to never be on the same road with some of the people that have posted here. I've been associated with "bikers" for 35 years and I can guarantee that if a motorist is broken down on the road, it would be the "biker" that would be the first one that would pull over and offer to help. There is an old "biker" saying that goes, "When we do right, no one remembers, when we do wrong, no one forgets".
Remember people. We all have to share the roads. Loud pipes are a way to get the general motorist to hear a bike, because they don't always see us. I took a motorcycle riders training course a few weeks ago. This course taught us that the average motorist will not see us and that we as motorcyclists, need to do everything possible to be visible. Just remember.....there are good and bad in all walks of life. I don't see the need to label people simply because they happen to ride a motorcycle.




Leatherist -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 10:04:50 PM)

It's not the bikers that are being judged as the idiots-it's the negligent motorists that endanger THIER right to be on the highway.




Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 10:19:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MMistress

Loud pipes are a way to get the general motorist to hear a bike, because they don't always see us.


No, as I said before, loud pipes are a way to annoy neighbors, nothing more. Most people in newer cars can't hear the pipes on the road until it's too late to change course or take action.




Termyn8or -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 10:42:57 PM)

Jumped, sorry.

Eighteen wheelers, I have noticed alot more of them driving like yahoos these days, what say you ?

And I agree with what was said about the crotch-rocketeers. Harley riders are not usually like that. People who buy a bike that can hit 100MPH in 4.9 seconds did not buy it to take Grandma to church on Sunday.

Actually there are quite a few Harleys that might not be quite as manueverable as an automobile. If you see a Harley cut across three lanes of traffic on the freeway, just hope he is in the right gear. If not, his blood might mix with the tar.

And the Harleys sound better too, those crotchrockets sound like shit.

T




ElectraGlide -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 10:49:03 PM)

It must be Summer, the biker threads are starting to pop up. Like the original post says, dont judge all bikers as trash.  If you see a big group ride or poker run, it always benefits a person or cause. I do my local Toys For Tots every year, I got awesome pictures going down the road , I do several poker runs, they benefit small local business also.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 11:31:45 PM)

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There is an old "biker" saying that goes, "When we do right, no one remembers, when we do wrong, no one forgets".
Remember people. We all have to share the roads. Loud pipes are a way to get the general motorist to hear a bike, because they don't always see us.


Like I said; bikers are self righteous.  Do you hear yourself?  "General motorist"  What the fuck is a general motorist?  Do you mean people that are driving uncool vehicles?  Bikers are so full of shit.  I never hear classic car enthusiasts talk as if they are some wise band of street philosophers roaming around the roads helping folks.  They all think they have something to teach all of us ignorant automobile drivers.  Loud pipes are ILLEGAL.  They are noise polluters, and noise pollution is a very real environmental problem.  Here's a website with a chart for acceptable decibel levels:

http://www.dangerousdecibels.org/hearingloss.cfm

Motorcycles often exceed safe decibel levels, and even Harley Davidson has campaigned against them:

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/harley_davidson_motorcycle_noise/index.html

Note this quote from the article:
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Some motorcycle owners change exhaust pipes to personalize the appearance. And many who modify their bikes' exhaust systems simply want the noise, often for vanity's sake. Some motorcyclists profess to believe that "loud pipes save lives," although research tends to contradict that popular axiom. (Few of those who say they want exhaust noise for safety's sake use other means—such as brightly colored apparel—which have been proven effective.)  


So please spare me the "loud pipes save lives" horse manure.  It's not true, and it's been studied.  If bikers were really concerned with safety, they wouldn't lobby state legislatures to have helmet laws removed.  They did that here, and there has been a sharp increase in motorcycle fatalities.  If they were really concerned with safety, they wouldn't wear all black at night while riding. 




GreedyTop -> RE: the biker (4/24/2008 11:40:14 PM)

Ok, as a former HArley rider (god I miss that bike), and a former MSF Rider Instructor, I'd just like to point out a couple of things about loud pipes...

A) as has been pointed out, many of todays cars are designed to be as close to soundproofed as possible.
B) laws of physics: as you're cruising down the highway at traffic speed, the sound is traveling with you. The cars aren't going to hear those loud pipes until you are next to them or passing them.  If you arent listening to your stereo, talking on the cell, etc, you may hear those loud pipes when they get to a few cars back from you..


ETA:  I truly believe that ANYONE who is registering a motorcycle should be required to complete a rider safety course before being issued a license.  And in order to renew the registration they should be required to take a refresher course, or even better move from basic to intermediate, then experienced courses, with a refresher each reg. renewal.




ElectraGlide -> RE: the biker (4/25/2008 12:40:19 AM)

Slaveboy you seem so angry.




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